Guys stick to the topic.

Quote from: Snowman0147 on November 16, 2021, 10:04:28 AM
Guys stick to the topic.

That's what we are actually trying to do!

There's also an RPG, called Dungeon Crawl Classics; which has gotten "Woke".

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on November 16, 2021, 09:50:13 AM
Well, if you want to go off topic, we can always start going on about how many wars and genocides have been started by the religious.

Only if we can include all the pagans and other non Christian belief systems people have followed throughout time that we know of.

But Goodman Games has yet to speak about their belief system, or lack thereof in any way, so I'm of a mind to let sleeping dogs lie for now.

Quote from: Omega on November 15, 2021, 10:21:15 PMIts never worked before and wont work now. It especially wont work now.

If they can not just outright co-opt the con from the inside out then they will go to the con to be offended. Then when either kicked out or not kicked out, will raise hell about how horrible these horrible people are. Assuming they do not just try to close down the con before it even starts. That is the current tactic used outside gaming. Call up the venue the cons at and threaten them or spread lies.

And failing all that. They will just pose as one of you. Then do something wretched and claim they are one of you when the cops are called. Or wait for, or stage, something bad to happen. Then pretend to be one of you and make really vile commentary to the media.

And failing all that. Murder.

Seen all of the above in the indie comic con and convention art circuits back in the 90s iteration and now our current 2010 wave of this disease.

The North Texas RPG Con, run by the recently departed Doug Rhea, managed to avoid the bullet. As I understand it, Doug just firmly and politely rejected any attempts at woke infiltration. When the usual suspects went on about safety protocols, he just responded that this was Texas, and everyone would be safe because the con organisers, and most of the people in attendance would be armed to the teeth.  That did not shut up the wokies, but it kept them away from the place, and good riddance! A few years later, NTRPG is still doing well, there are no incidents reported, and it remains focused on good games.

You can read the RPGNet regulars seethe about in this 2017 thread.

Quote from: Melan on November 17, 2021, 04:56:27 AM

Quote from: Omega on November 15, 2021, 10:21:15 PMIts never worked before and wont work now. It especially wont work now.

If they can not just outright co-opt the con from the inside out then they will go to the con to be offended. Then when either kicked out or not kicked out, will raise hell about how horrible these horrible people are. Assuming they do not just try to close down the con before it even starts. That is the current tactic used outside gaming. Call up the venue the cons at and threaten them or spread lies.

And failing all that. They will just pose as one of you. Then do something wretched and claim they are one of you when the cops are called. Or wait for, or stage, something bad to happen. Then pretend to be one of you and make really vile commentary to the media.

And failing all that. Murder.

Seen all of the above in the indie comic con and convention art circuits back in the 90s iteration and now our current 2010 wave of this disease.

The North Texas RPG Con, run by the recently departed Doug Rhea, managed to avoid the bullet. As I understand it, Doug just firmly and politely rejected any attempts at woke infiltration. When the usual suspects went on about safety protocols, he just responded that this was Texas, and everyone would be safe because the con organisers, and most of the people in attendance would be armed to the teeth.  That did not shut up the wokies, but it kept them away from the place, and good riddance! A few years later, NTRPG is still doing well, there are no incidents reported, and it remains focused on good games.

You can read the RPGNet regulars seethe about in this 2017 thread.

Greetings!

Geesus, my friend, all of those people over at TBP are all nuts. Toxic masculinity, women, POC, harassment policy, sexual assault victims, harassers, whaa, whaa, whaa. These people are all pathetic, weak, self-righteous troglodytes.

If anyone is so consumed with fear about sexual assault or God-knows what else--these people have no business going to a convention. Or even being in public, anywhere. They need therapy, and to be locked inside a rubber room.

The North Texas RPG con sounds like a fantastic convention to go to! Definitely a place where all the whining, sniveling, SJW's would feel so unsafe and unwelcome!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

QuoteIt's well over 100 Million people dead at the hands of Socialists. I'm unaware of the ones that happened at specifically an indie Comic-con or convention Art Circuits but I do know this. They are not done. That 100 Million isn't the Total killed but the total killed in just three or four places so far.

And those were people murdered by communist dictatorship (whether we call them real communism or not). Point it - reality of such dictatorship is quite, quite different from realities of WOKE in US. In fact WOKE usually disowns all those Soviet or Chinese shenanigans, and frequently counts dictators of East as right-wingers (sic!). And on the other hand fans of Stalin, Mao and Hoxha, commonly called tankies, usually hate WOKE considering them to be pawns of corporate capitalism.

So as someone from Eastern Europe where like in most of countries communists took power by military effort of armed man unafraid to fight and die, not be petty screaming of non-binary depressed wokesters, I do not see much relevance here really.

Someone claimed people were murdered for left to take over some gaming conventions, so the question is who and were. All the victims of Stalin, Mao and Kim are irrelevent for this discussion, as those gentlemen where rather not interested in such petty endeavours, playing their Empire Games.

QuoteOh Right! Because any discussion of the larger issue without the extremely narrow confines of your question would totally destroy your views and you want to keep everything nice and separate so you can pretend they are unrelated.

For our next trip - we gonna say that OSR players in Latinoamerican countries are guilty of crimes against idigenous populations, because RPGPundit supports Uruguay.
Now then it's gonna turn it was governments not players, and 100 years ago, but whatever we cannot keep things separate.

We cannot keep separate Antifa shenanigans from Stalin's regime, even if it's quite possible Stalin seeing them would log on RPGSite and offer Pundit temporary truce in eradicating those loons, like one whiskered asshole to the other.

I don't know what so hard in keeping on topic to you - someone said quite clearly and specificaly about murder as a way to eliminate political enemies in gaming convention business, not in terms of world-wide crimes of socialism. So we want to specific about this, not about Lenin.

QuoteThe North Texas RPG Con, run by the recently departed Doug Rhea, managed to avoid the bullet. As I understand it, Doug just firmly and politely rejected any attempts at woke infiltration. When the usual suspects went on about safety protocols, he just responded that this was Texas, and everyone would be safe because the con organisers, and most of the people in attendance would be armed to the teeth.  That did not shut up the wokies, but it kept them away from the place, and good riddance! A few years later, NTRPG is still doing well, there are no incidents reported, and it remains focused on good games.

Based :3 That's how such things should be solved.

Quote from: Melan on November 17, 2021, 04:56:27 AM

Quote from: Omega on November 15, 2021, 10:21:15 PMIts never worked before and wont work now. It especially wont work now.

If they can not just outright co-opt the con from the inside out then they will go to the con to be offended. Then when either kicked out or not kicked out, will raise hell about how horrible these horrible people are. Assuming they do not just try to close down the con before it even starts. That is the current tactic used outside gaming. Call up the venue the cons at and threaten them or spread lies.

And failing all that. They will just pose as one of you. Then do something wretched and claim they are one of you when the cops are called. Or wait for, or stage, something bad to happen. Then pretend to be one of you and make really vile commentary to the media.

And failing all that. Murder.

Seen all of the above in the indie comic con and convention art circuits back in the 90s iteration and now our current 2010 wave of this disease.

The North Texas RPG Con, run by the recently departed Doug Rhea, managed to avoid the bullet. As I understand it, Doug just firmly and politely rejected any attempts at woke infiltration. When the usual suspects went on about safety protocols, he just responded that this was Texas, and everyone would be safe because the con organisers, and most of the people in attendance would be armed to the teeth.  That did not shut up the wokies, but it kept them away from the place, and good riddance! A few years later, NTRPG is still doing well, there are no incidents reported, and it remains focused on good games.

You can read the RPGNet regulars seethe about in this 2017 thread.

My hometown Con. Finally get to attend for the first time in 2022.  Curious if you plan on attending next year Melan. Would be amazing to get a seat at a game of yours if that ever happens. 

With the way international travel is going, it is highly unlikely. But it is on my list, God willing.

Quote from: Melan on November 17, 2021, 05:50:38 PM
With the way international travel is going, it is highly unlikely. But it is on my list, God willing.

With any luck, Texas will be its own country by the time the next Con rolls around.

I will be at NTRPG for sure. Would be great to meet some new folks!

Quote from: Melan on November 17, 2021, 04:56:27 AM
You can read the RPGNet regulars seethe about in this 2017 thread.

I remember that thread! That's when I stopped lurking over there. I had stopped posting long before that, but that thread hit peak stupid. Always wondered how the whole thing turned out... glad the con is still going strong.

Funny to revisit the thread and see all the SJW posters who've since been banned. I wonder why. Were they not Woke enough, or did they come to their senses and dare point out the insanity? Did they plead "But, but, I'm an ALLY!" on their way to the guillotine? Or raise a fist in defiance and join us here?

The purity spiral never stops spinning, so they were just the next targets after the site had run out of (however mild) conservatives and middle-road lefties. Looking at recent long-term/permanent bans on Infractions that hit long-term users (not just fresh accounts who might be clueless tourists or drive-by trolls), we get:

• Ikoma (2008):Being doubtful about reparations
• Silvercat Moonpaw (2008): "European Christian colonialist propaganda", i.e. making an accurate claim about most world religions
• Heavy Arms (2012): "multiple warnings and threadbans about posting aggressively and heating up the threads by attacking people"
• Damian May (2003): sockpuppet said naughty things (look at that regdate!)
• Maxen M (2012): supporting reparations, but not "land back" schemes
• Marras (2014): called singular they "a weird new aberration"
• Broken (2002): "treating slavery as something that is just another type of loot" (PERMA)
• Paradim (2004): "It's not illegal, on its own as far as I know, to cross State lines with a firearm. That's something people do very regularly."(30 days for racism)

These guys all believed in the Party, but didn't believe in it just enough. I bet most of them didn't even see it coming, and when it did, were surprised and mortified that something like this could happen to "the good guys".

Quote from: Fantacide on November 17, 2021, 09:21:09 PM
I will be at NTRPG for sure. Would be great to meet some new folks!

Same Fantacide. If guys on the forum who plan on attending are interested--let's have a theRPGsite meetup during the con.

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