Quote from: TrippyHippy;1016074What is streaming?

Livestream: essentially recording live before an audience. Its supposed to mean those videos that were posted straight to Youtube as the session is played. Some others have started to stretch the term to mean things like recorded before an audience and then edited.  Similar to how some TV shows used to be recorded live. Its also done by some digital artists. You literally see them drawing the piece over the course. People can later come in and see that recording.

Its effectively the same as recording a session and then later uploading it without edits. Or at least without many edits.

I completely avoided the problem by not watching streams. To me, it's as if they don't even exist.

But do steamers exist?

Take the red pill.

Quote from: Voros;1016114You would really exclude a ham at the table? I find they often make the game more engaging and amusing, when I GM I found players reacted well to the GM haming it up as well.

As to Shawn excluding people who 'yap too much at the table' I get this surreal image of players in gimp suits around the table.

We may be imagining different scenarios and using the term ham differently, but I find this a little odd too. I mean I love it when players ham up and have a good time at the table. It is absolutely not a requirement or expected, but if someone likes playing an over the-top buffoon and it isn't disruptive to play---I definitely could see an over-the-top buffoon who sidetracks the party all the time being a problem---I have no problem with it. I guess it might depend on the genre. But different strokes.

Krueger where would you draw the line on hammy behavior at the table?

Haming it up at the table only works if it is used sparingly. Used too often and it can overpower a gamin session like Brendan said.

Our group will include some ham from time to time but it is sparingly used. I think the folks that talked about how streaming "games" are similar to reality TV are spot on. That analogy is perfect in my mind.

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;1016387But do steamers exist?

In RPGs? Sure. I think Castle Falkenstein and Space: 1889 would count as steampunk. Or I suppose any sci fi game with time travel you could end up on a paddleboat next to Samual Clemons (didn't they do that on ST:TNG?).

Or do you mean like in steam cleaning? Yeah, after the group has gotten their cheeto-dusted cooties or we're-bringing-our-kids-constant-illnesses germs all over my game books, I could see giving them a good steam cleaning.

So yeah, take your pick.

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;1016387But do steamers exist?

I use one for vegetables all the time.

I like to eat vegetables, but it's hard to pick the wheelchairs out of my teeth.

Quote from: BedrockBrendan;1016393Krueger where would you draw the line on hammy behavior at the table?

Being a ham as opposed to playing one.  

We've all seen the disruptive players who usually conveniently come up with a roleplaying excuse to do PvP or otherwise be a fuckhead as "just doing what my character will do".  Well, right now, two of my players have characters that don't like,each other much.  They are good friends and they aren't trying to be disruptive, they're just good roleplayers who have characters that grind eachother's gears.

Similarly, I wouldn't be upset if a guy had a loud, gregarious sailor like John Rhys-Davies in Shogun, unless his characters were always of that type.

Baulderstone said you always have an audience when roleplaying and he's seen lots of players play to the crowd.  Well, someone roleplaying a ham is going to be in character, playing to the other characters, someone who is a ham is going to be playing to the other players and they always end up with a ham-worthy character.  That's the person that needs to find another table.

What's wrong with playing to the other players? It's better than playing to yourself.

Quote from: mAcular Chaotic;1016496What's wrong with playing to the other players? It's better than playing to yourself.

Neither of which are really roleplaying, so...yeah.

I run a game of 2d20, or something else with so much obvious meta, why not?  Or you could ham, the fuck out of Necromunda, you'd fit right in.  My group plays role playing games to roleplay, and plays other games when not.  I know that somehow that's become rather odd.

I don't really understand what you mean about "playing to the players." How is that different than playing to the characters? Is it not the same thing.

Quote from: mAcular Chaotic;1016503I don't really understand what you mean about "playing to the players." How is that different than playing to the characters? Is it not the same thing.

No. It is not.

Your character is fighting an orc.  You as a player are going to be ordering pizza after the fight.  
Now you are thinking about the fact that you are starving...and you don't want your character to die.
Your character probably wants to die even less, and doesn't know what pizza is, to him Round Table is furniture that isn't square and Dominos is a game.

If your last player was a quiet, ruthless assassin (or something) and this character is a loud, funny oaf, and your next character will be different, then you're roleplaying and will fit in just fine.  

If your assassin was a "Grim Servant of Death" who spoke mysterious mottos in "stage acting" theatrical voice, expressions, etc. before you played the loud, brash oaf, you'll probably want to leave yourself before you are asked to...but you will be asked to eventually.

I don't get how that part about pizza has anything to do with playing to the players lol

So far all I'm getting is you're saying being overly dramatic = bad.