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Another disillusioned rpg.net user...

Started by Chunkthulhu, April 29, 2019, 11:39:06 AM

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trechriron

Quote from: Brad;1085205Why don't those retards just make their own con if they have problems with all the other ones?

VERY good question...
Trentin C Bergeron (trechriron)
Bard, Creative & RPG Enthusiast

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moonsweeper

Quote from: Brad;1085205Why don't those retards just make their own con if they have problems with all the other ones?

Because it isn't about having a 'good' Con for them.
It is all about exercising control over others.


Welcome, shoplifter!
"I have a very hard time taking seriously someone who has the time and resources to protest capitalism, while walking around in Nike shoes and drinking Starbucks, while filming it on their iPhone."  --  Alderaan Crumbs

"Just, can you make it The Ramones at least? I only listen to Abba when I want to fuck a stripper." -- Jeff37923

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SavageSchemer

Oh, and I forgot: Welcome, Chunkthulhu!

I tend to prefer S&W as my favorite OSR myself, if I can't count Traveller as "old school". Although I will say that even before I knew the design team for (what I think was) the limited edition run was all female, I had notice how downright effeminate literally every single piece of art in the book is. The design of the book itself was quite nice, but that was downright jarring and was impossible to unsee once I saw it.
The more clichéd my group plays their characters, the better. I don't want Deep Drama™ and Real Acting™ in the precious few hours away from my family and job. I want cheap thrills, constant action, involved-but-not-super-complex plots, and cheesy but lovable characters.
From "Play worlds, not rules"

SavageSchemer

Quote from: shoplifter;1085199Just got myself a perma for changing my Avatar to a Trump sticker. The mod was triggered enough to remove it so fragile eyes wouldn't be harmed.

Goodbye after 17 years. Nothing of value was lost. It's rather incredible how traffic has dropped over the past few years.

Welcome!

I actually saw your ban over there when I was reading the BESM thread! LOL. At first I saw the "banned" next to your name and assumed it was because of some archaic "no pro capitalism" offence...but then I saw the RED TEXT and thought, "yup - that'll do it".

You'll find no such horseshit here.
The more clichéd my group plays their characters, the better. I don't want Deep Drama™ and Real Acting™ in the precious few hours away from my family and job. I want cheap thrills, constant action, involved-but-not-super-complex plots, and cheesy but lovable characters.
From "Play worlds, not rules"

nope

Quote from: Brad;1085205Why don't those retards just make their own con if they have problems with all the other ones?

Why would they ever spend effort creating anything when they can simply righteously attempt to destroy others? Sorry, what I meant was they are attempting to correct social injustices affecting the West. And let's be honest, that's a good thing.

amacris

Quote from: BrokenCounsel;1085150You know, I wish you were right. I wish that's all they really, truly, wanted. But they don't.

This isn't a quest for forgiveness over in Purple Haired Bastard Land; it isn't a quest to gain new converts. It's a pogrom. What the collective shit-mind of TBP actually wants is for Bill Webb to issue a statement that he's stepping down as CEO of Frog God Games, quitting the gaming industry, allowing his wife and kids to change their names so they don't have be tainted by his shame, donating every last cent has has to worthy, gender-fluid, anti-harassment causes, and going to live as hermit on a rock in the south Atlantic where he's guaranteed to die broken and alone by the time winter comes. And even that won't be enough for some of the Purple Haired Fuckers in the Puce Kremlin. They'll want pictures too, and eye-witnesses appointed by the Politically Correct Wing of the UN, report back that he died in writhing agony.

Basically, we're at fucking war.

Yes. That's exactly correct.

Spinachcat

Quote from: shoplifter;1085199Just got myself a perma for changing my Avatar to a Trump sticker.

And yet here, in our nightmarish alt-right hellscape of evilness, everyone is welcome to have a Bernie / Hillary / AOC avatar.

Welcome aboard!!

nDervish

Quote from: Brad;1085205Why don't those retards just make their own con if they have problems with all the other ones?
Quote from: SavageSchemer;1085206They'd probably come up with some bizarre mental gymnastics for why doing so would be both racists and empowering to the male patriarchy or some such horseshit.

Given the rise of "silence is endorsement of the status quo"-type thinking in socjus circles lately, I expect that, if you asked them, you'd get something pretty much like that as your answer.  "We would be enabling and supporting the patriarchal racism of existing cons if we started our own con instead of challenging the anti-feminist elements in our community" or something.

Lurtch

Wokeness cannot create anything of substance or anything that can last. The Purple Jacobins can only destroy.

Dimitrios

Quote from: Brad;1085205Why don't those retards just make their own con if they have problems with all the other ones?

But they did. Haven't you ever heard of Fancon?:D

CarlD.

#55
Quote from: Chunkthulhu;1085080Hi there.

Even though in recent years I've only been lurking, I've been an rpg.net member since 2003.  It used to be a really cool place to hang out and talk RPGs.  It's... not so much, now.

I know we probably don't need another thread about this, but the whole Bill Webb situation has really soured me on rpg.net and its regulars.  Up until he posted his statement, my standpoint was that if he did indeed assault someone, that needs to be addressed.  Assault - of any sort - is not acceptable.  But it sounds like it was addressed: the victim opted to not press charges for whatever reason, and whatever Bill did was addressed internally at FGG and Paizo.  Anything beyond that, is not my business, nor is it the business of any of the rpg.net regulars who were shaking the tree.  It was SJG's business, certainly, since they were entering into a business agreement with FGG, but their statement is that they looked into the situation and ultimately found it a non-issue (my words).

People are redeemable.  If someone makes a bad decision, that bad decision is addressed, and if they never make that similar bad decisions decision life goes on.  Our entire justice system is built on that belief: innocent until proven guilty.  But what's going on over at rpg.net is more like... guilty until forever because we said so, and so is anyone that the guilty party works with.  And that's not OK.

And now we have Bill's statement.  While it's so far uncorroborated (even though there are tweets alluding to his description of the events as factual, even before it was released), if it turns out to be the actual truth (which I suspect it will be, or at least closer to the truth than anything that's previously come out) then the rpg.net regulars who have been campaigning against him and SJG need to have their behavior addressed as well.  It's not OK what they've been doing, at all.  

And you know?  Even if Bill had been a skeevy creep and totally did go over the line with suggestions and innuendo and actions, it was evidently, by all accounts, addressed and dealt with.  Procedures have been put in place to insure it doesn't happen again (not going to cons, going to cons with a chaperone, etc.) so it's still none of the rpg.net regulars' business, and it's still not OK what they've been doing.  People are redeemable; Bill needed the chance to redeem himself.  Without that, he's being treated worse than hardened criminals who have paid for their crimes.  That's not OK.

So.  I'm done over there.   Seems sad to leave a place I've been a member of for so long, but I can't stand it any longer.  And the actual gaming discussed over here is more in line with the gaming that I enjoy; I really dislike PbtA and "story games" and how the GM has been neutered in those games because of "player agency" and the like.  Truth be told, one of my favorite RPGs is the FGG Swords & Wizardry Complete edition for which Stacy Dellorfano was the art director.  

Anyway, to make a long story short, I see there's a bunch of political talk over here, which I'll probably stay clear of, but it looks to be a good site for talking about the RPGs I like and the style of gaming I like.

I can sympathize. There does seem to be something going on on rpg.net in anecdotal observation. The Mods are on a "The random beatings will continue until moral improves" bender, I've run across more people leaving the place. For here and some others. Not a flood and I have seen nothing solid to indicate its failing (whatever that means for a web forum site) but there does seem to be something shaky. People who have been posters for decades without a mod comment are racking up 4-5 RED TEXTS in a week?

Or that's just me enjoying wishing up something to enjoy some schadenfreude.
"I once heard an evolutionary biologist talk about how violent simians are; they are horrifically violent. He then went on to add that he was really hopeful about humanity because "we\'re monkeys who manage *not* to kill each other most of the time.""

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Brad

Quote from: Dimitrios;1085275But they did. Haven't you ever heard of Fancon?:D

Nope, I hadn't. A quick Google search found this link: https://www.vulture.com/2018/05/fancon-controversial-collapse.html

If that's just 10% accurate, these people are even dumber than I thought.
It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

Lurtch

Quote from: Brad;1085285Nope, I hadn't. A quick Google search found this link: https://www.vulture.com/2018/05/fancon-controversial-collapse.html

If that's just 10% accurate, these people are even dumber than I thought.

Gay people are roughly 3-5% of the population. The country is 2/3 white. We need to go for an extreme minority of a minority, and then complain when it isn't financially viable because science!

Brad

Quote from: Lurtch;1085286Gay people are roughly 3-5% of the population. The country is 2/3 white. We need to go for an extreme minority of a minority, and then complain when it isn't financially viable because science!

The dumbest part is...you're gonna have LeVar Burton as a special guest. He has such a broad range of appeal that with very little marketing you could have easily filled that convention center. Instead, tell all the white virgin neckbeard Trekkies they're not welcome! Turn off the middle aged guy with the hyped up gay nonsense and he won't bring his family to see the Reading Rainbow guy! Etc., etc. Beyond fucking stupid.
It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

moonsweeper

Quote from: CarlD.;1085282I can sympathize. There does seem to be something going on on rpg.net in anecdotal observation. The Mods are on a "The random beatings will continue until moral improves", I've run across more people leaving the place. For here and some others. Not a flood and I have seen nothing solid to indicate its failing (whatever that means for a web forum site) but there does seem to be something shaky. People who have been posters for decades without a mod comment are racking up 4-5 RED TEXTS in a week?

Or that's just me enjoying wishing up something to enjoy some schadenfreude.

Maybe the lawsuit is pushing the SJWs over the edge kind of like the 2016 election...

If they are worried about losing their power over other people, they will only try to tighten their grip.  
They have shown that it isn't enough for them to have one group of people agree with them and another group somewhere else who doesn't really interact with them.
ALL other persons must be moved into their circle of control or removed entirely.
If the LDS (Lawsuit Derangement Syndrome :D ) has motivated them enough, this round of Purity Testing/Banning may be centered on people who try to avoid the whole mess and only concentrate on gaming.

More along the lines of "You have not shown your support and proven your rightthink, Citizen" instead of the "You must be penalized for wrongthink, Citizen" that has been the norm.

The fact that they are now hiding their behavior from the General Public is almost certainly a sign of fracturing/loss of control in their system...

I'm tempted to create an account on TBP just to be able to read some of the garbage, for the humor value if nothing else. :)

...and a big "Welcome" to anyone I may have missed!
"I have a very hard time taking seriously someone who has the time and resources to protest capitalism, while walking around in Nike shoes and drinking Starbucks, while filming it on their iPhone."  --  Alderaan Crumbs

"Just, can you make it The Ramones at least? I only listen to Abba when I want to fuck a stripper." -- Jeff37923

"Government is the only entity that relies on its failures to justify the expansion of its powers." -- David Freiheit (Viva Frei)