Hi there.

Even though in recent years I've only been lurking, I've been an rpg.net member since 2003.  It used to be a really cool place to hang out and talk RPGs.  It's... not so much, now.

I know we probably don't need another thread about this, but the whole Bill Webb situation has really soured me on rpg.net and its regulars.  Up until he posted his statement, my standpoint was that if he did indeed assault someone, that needs to be addressed.  Assault - of any sort - is not acceptable.  But it sounds like it was addressed: the victim opted to not press charges for whatever reason, and whatever Bill did was addressed internally at FGG and Paizo.  Anything beyond that, is not my business, nor is it the business of any of the rpg.net regulars who were shaking the tree.  It was SJG's business, certainly, since they were entering into a business agreement with FGG, but their statement is that they looked into the situation and ultimately found it a non-issue (my words).

People are redeemable.  If someone makes a bad decision, that bad decision is addressed, and if they never make that similar bad decisions decision life goes on.  Our entire justice system is built on that belief: innocent until proven guilty.  But what's going on over at rpg.net is more like... guilty until forever because we said so, and so is anyone that the guilty party works with.  And that's not OK.

And now we have Bill's statement.  While it's so far uncorroborated (even though there are tweets alluding to his description of the events as factual, even before it was released), if it turns out to be the actual truth (which I suspect it will be, or at least closer to the truth than anything that's previously come out) then the rpg.net regulars who have been campaigning against him and SJG need to have their behavior addressed as well.  It's not OK what they've been doing, at all.  

And you know?  Even if Bill had been a skeevy creep and totally did go over the line with suggestions and innuendo and actions, it was evidently, by all accounts, addressed and dealt with.  Procedures have been put in place to insure it doesn't happen again (not going to cons, going to cons with a chaperone, etc.) so it's still none of the rpg.net regulars' business, and it's still not OK what they've been doing.  People are redeemable; Bill needed the chance to redeem himself.  Without that, he's being treated worse than hardened criminals who have paid for their crimes.  That's not OK.

So.  I'm done over there.   Seems sad to leave a place I've been a member of for so long, but I can't stand it any longer.  And the actual gaming discussed over here is more in line with the gaming that I enjoy; I really dislike PbtA and "story games" and how the GM has been neutered in those games because of "player agency" and the like.  Truth be told, one of my favorite RPGs is the FGG Swords & Wizardry Complete edition for which Stacy Dellorfano was the art director.  

Anyway, to make a long story short, I see there's a bunch of political talk over here, which I'll probably stay clear of, but it looks to be a good site for talking about the RPGs I like and the style of gaming I like.

Welcome. It is a great place to talk about games, without fear of crossing some offensive line that will get you censured or banned.

I for one welcome our chuncky Elder god.

Their is a difference in that  you will not be banned by a mod for simply not agreeing with the narrative and with made up words. The cold calculating way in which they just make a person a social psriah. They way they just would simply destroy a person professional life is disgusting .

Welcome. It's definitely different here. The only times I've seen Pundit threaten to ban someone was when they persistently kept derailing threads and going off topic after being warned to stop.

What caused me to drift away from rpg.net after being a regular reader for years wasn't politics, but rather the collective meltdown that occurred when 5e was announced.

Welcome Chunkthulhu!

...just out of curiosity, what is the SAN loss for seeing the Truffle Shuffle?  

Greetings!

Welcome to the forums here! I think you will find this place to be an island of sanity. Indeed, it is a tragedy that RPG.Net has become such a cesspool of tyranny. All of that SJW nonsense has been spreading rapidly to many other sites as well. I certainly enjoy a good debate now and then, but to suffer the top-down ideological tyranny than these SJW morons seek to impose is absolutely disgusting and intolerable. I'm an American, and a veteran. I have zero patience for enforced ideological group-think, and I refuse to tolerate such nonsense. It's good that you have chosen to walk away from them, sir. More people need to follow your example. Our whole society is being torn apart by these SJW thugs, and in many ways, the online world is the frontlines of this cultural war. RPGsite is a great place to discuss all kinds of RPG's, especially OSR and Dungeons and Dragons.

Glad to have you with us!:D

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Do we need a subforum for introductions from exiles?

I'm sorry, Chunkthulhu, you missed the new directive from the Committee for Proper Gaming. It's not about 'being fair', it's about 'reducing harm,' and if that means dragging this out again pour encourager les autres… well, making an omelet requires breaking a few eggs.

(No, I'm not making this up. Exaggerating, maybe, but not making it up. See the thread on RPO at TBP.)

Quote from: moonsweeper;1085098...just out of curiosity, what is the SAN loss for seeing the Truffle Shuffle?  

ALL YOUR SAN IS BELONG TO THE TRUFFLE SHUFFLE!  

Quote from: Armchair Gamer;1085107See the thread on RPO at TPB.

I've seen "TBP" around in some other threads, but I don't know the acronym.  What is TPB?

Quote from: Chunkthulhu;1085114I've seen "TBP" around in some other threads, but I don't know the acronym.  What is TPB?

  I meant TBP; it's our shorthand for RPGNet--"The Big Purple" or "The Banning Place," depending on whom you ask.

Quote from: Chunkthulhu;1085080Truth be told, one of my favorite RPGs is the FGG Swords & Wizardry Complete edition for which Stacy Dellorfano was the art director.  

Welcome to theRPGsite!

Quote from: Armchair Gamer;1085116I meant TBP; it's our shorthand for RPGNet--"The Big Purple" or "The Banning Place," depending on whom you ask.

Ah, yeah, I meant TBP as well.  I figured it had something to do with rpg.net, just hadn't put that 2 and 2 together.  Thanks.

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Welcome to theRPGsite!

Thanks!  And yeah, I know that it might be a bit blasphemous, but I think it's my twisted sense of humor which makes that edition my favorite given everything that's going on with FGG and Dellorfano and the like.

Quote from: S'mon;1085117

Welcome to theRPGsite!

Greetings!

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!:D Ah, yes, my friend! Another one of my favourite movies. Donald Sutherland is such a magnificent actor. That movie, "Invasion of the Bodysnatchers" and his acting throughout, especially with the surprise ending where he gets transformed into an evil pod-person, giving us that macabre image...I think it was from 1979. S'mon, I was what? 11 years old when I saw that movie in the theater at the time. That imagery has stayed with me for life. Of course, as an adult, I also have seen it as an analogy of sorts when dealing with ideologies, such as "progessivism" and "SJWism". It's prescient and powerful, even after the passage of 40 years, you know?

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: Chunkthulhu;1085080Hi there.

Even though in recent years I've only been lurking, I've been an rpg.net member since 2003.  It used to be a really cool place to hang out and talk RPGs.  It's... not so much, now.

I know we probably don't need another thread about this, but the whole Bill Webb situation has really soured me on rpg.net and its regulars.

Looks like the Webb situation turned up the heat on rpg.net a few more degrees.