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Adding options for Fighter classes

Started by Captain_Pazuzu, December 19, 2023, 02:45:56 PM

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Dagor

Quote from: Mishihari on December 19, 2023, 04:26:46 PM
I've done something very similar for the very-non-D&D game I'm writing right now.  (Almost done, yay!)  One of the key design features is a depletable "fatigue" resource.  Normal attacks cost no fatigue but any of the 30 or so melee maneuvers (power attack, furious defense, etc) cost a certain amount.  The point is to offer fighters interesting, powerful options, like casters, but limit how often it can be done, also like casters.  The other options is 4E's x/day mechanic, which I hate with a passion because it has no reasonable in-game explanation.

Hi, if you don't mind me asking...is the same game you mentioned in other post, the one with animistic magic?

estar

Quote from: Venka on December 23, 2023, 02:18:53 PM
While the AD&D 1e thing is well known to me, and I've referenced it in this thread, I had no idea about the OD&D piece.  It looks like there may be another reference to this in Chainmail somewhere, just based on the phrasing (it implies we may find something under Hero rules or similar- this looks like it's a clarification of a printed rule somewhere).  In any event, excellent find. 
Thanks and as for your question, that would be this



The Hero fights acts four figures. However, in Chainmail, what this means depends on the equipment the Hero uses, which determines the Hero's troop type. Along with the troop type of their opponent. So if the Hero is outfitted as a Light Footmen then they get just one roll  of a d6 if fighting Heavy Horse and a 5 or 6 scores a kill. But if the same Hero was fighting other Light Footmen then they would get to roll 4d6 and each 6 rolled will score a figure kill.

Conversely, if the Hero is outfitted as a Heavy Horseman. They would get 16d6 versus Light Foot and a 5 or 6 on each roll will score a figure kill.

Also, it will take four hits in a single round to kill the hero when attacked by regular troops.

Finally, if fighting monsters or other heroes, they would use the man-to-man tables and the fantasy supplement tables. This means rolling 2d6 >= the target number cross-referenced from a chart.







Mishihari

Quote from: Dagor on January 01, 2024, 06:29:38 PM
Quote from: Mishihari on December 19, 2023, 04:26:46 PM
I've done something very similar for the very-non-D&D game I'm writing right now.  (Almost done, yay!)  One of the key design features is a depletable "fatigue" resource.  Normal attacks cost no fatigue but any of the 30 or so melee maneuvers (power attack, furious defense, etc) cost a certain amount.  The point is to offer fighters interesting, powerful options, like casters, but limit how often it can be done, also like casters.  The other options is 4E's x/day mechanic, which I hate with a passion because it has no reasonable in-game explanation.

Hi, if you don't mind me asking...is the same game you mentioned in other post, the one with animistic magic?

Yep, that's the one.  And I'll just mention that while Spirit Magic is probably the most unusual type in the game, there are also 4 other types as well.

Domina

Quote from: Opaopajr on December 21, 2023, 07:32:01 PM
Quantum Encounters in Quantum Edition is not even sophistry, just pathetic wanna-be pedantic idiocy. Most of us nerds got over this childish debate antic by junior high, and for most of us that is decades ago.  :) We all go through that power trip phase and then we grow up and seriously engage with conversations and their context.

One day you can too!  ;D

3.5 is the only edition and everything I said was correct, retard :)

Opaopajr

Quote from: Domina on January 04, 2024, 11:58:42 AM
Quote from: Opaopajr on December 21, 2023, 07:32:01 PM
Quantum Encounters in Quantum Edition is not even sophistry, just pathetic wanna-be pedantic idiocy. Most of us nerds got over this childish debate antic by junior high, and for most of us that is decades ago.  :) We all go through that power trip phase and then we grow up and seriously engage with conversations and their context.

One day you can too!  ;D

3.5 is the only edition and everything I said was correct, retard :)

;) Don't worry, you'll have deeper thoughts in due time. :) Enjoy your youth!
Just make your fuckin\' guy and roll the dice, you pricks. Focus on what\'s interesting, not what gives you the biggest randomly generated virtual penis.  -- J Arcane
 
You know, people keep comparing non-TSR D&D to deck-building in Magic: the Gathering. But maybe it\'s more like Katamari Damacy. You keep sticking shit on your characters until they are big enough to be a star.
-- talysman

Dagor

Quote from: Mishihari on January 03, 2024, 03:04:43 PM
Quote from: Dagor on January 01, 2024, 06:29:38 PM
Quote from: Mishihari on December 19, 2023, 04:26:46 PM
I've done something very similar for the very-non-D&D game I'm writing right now.  (Almost done, yay!)  One of the key design features is a depletable "fatigue" resource.  Normal attacks cost no fatigue but any of the 30 or so melee maneuvers (power attack, furious defense, etc) cost a certain amount.  The point is to offer fighters interesting, powerful options, like casters, but limit how often it can be done, also like casters.  The other options is 4E's x/day mechanic, which I hate with a passion because it has no reasonable in-game explanation.

Hi, if you don't mind me asking...is the same game you mentioned in other post, the one with animistic magic?


Yep, that's the one.  And I'll just mention that while Spirit Magic is probably the most unusual type in the game, there are also 4 other types as well.

Sounds like Runequest to me.

Mishihari

Quote from: Dagor on January 04, 2024, 02:43:53 PM
Quote from: Mishihari on January 03, 2024, 03:04:43 PM
Quote from: Dagor on January 01, 2024, 06:29:38 PM
Quote from: Mishihari on December 19, 2023, 04:26:46 PM
I've done something very similar for the very-non-D&D game I'm writing right now.  (Almost done, yay!)  One of the key design features is a depletable "fatigue" resource.  Normal attacks cost no fatigue but any of the 30 or so melee maneuvers (power attack, furious defense, etc) cost a certain amount.  The point is to offer fighters interesting, powerful options, like casters, but limit how often it can be done, also like casters.  The other options is 4E's x/day mechanic, which I hate with a passion because it has no reasonable in-game explanation.

Hi, if you don't mind me asking...is the same game you mentioned in other post, the one with animistic magic?


Yep, that's the one.  And I'll just mention that while Spirit Magic is probably the most unusual type in the game, there are also 4 other types as well.

Sounds like Runequest to me.

Can't really comment on that.  I've neither played nor read Runequest

Domina

Quote from: Opaopajr on January 04, 2024, 12:47:58 PM
Quote from: Domina on January 04, 2024, 11:58:42 AM
Quote from: Opaopajr on December 21, 2023, 07:32:01 PM
Quantum Encounters in Quantum Edition is not even sophistry, just pathetic wanna-be pedantic idiocy. Most of us nerds got over this childish debate antic by junior high, and for most of us that is decades ago.  :) We all go through that power trip phase and then we grow up and seriously engage with conversations and their context.

One day you can too!  ;D

3.5 is the only edition and everything I said was correct, retard :)

;) Don't worry, you'll have deeper thoughts in due time. :) Enjoy your youth!

Cope harder :)

Slipshot762

he can't he doesn't have the cope harder feat nor the levels in weeb shitstain required to get it.

blackstone

Oh look, Domina the trolling douche nozzle is back.... ::)

Domina

Quote from: Slipshot762 on January 05, 2024, 10:56:36 AM
he can't he doesn't have the cope harder feat nor the levels in weeb shitstain required to get it.

Lmao stay furious

Slipshot762

#101
i didn't take the required "dip" into the furious weebshit tard homo class so i can't. My anus is now sad.

ETA:
NANI?!?!?!?

Opaopajr

Quote from: Slipshot762 on January 05, 2024, 10:56:36 AM
he can't he doesn't have the cope harder feat nor the levels in weeb shitstain required to get it.

Quote from: Slipshot762 on January 05, 2024, 06:46:33 PM
i didn't take the required "dip" into the furious weebshit tard homo class so i can't. My anus is now sad.

ETA:
NANI?!?!?!?

;D OK, I admit it, I laughed.  8) Forum antibodies have a sharp elbow sense of humor. Thanks.  ;)

That said, Domina does sound of that awkward coming of age where sounding right and pissing on shoes to claim space is so, so important.  :) I can't really get mad beyond the pity. It's almost adorable in its "wannabe, never was" energy. ;D

But eventually they'll age out of it and look back with shame. And... I don't see the point going that hard on youthful indiscretions, especially such tame ones. In fact my leniency might be the crueller choice because they might linger in this maladjusted stage longer than necessary. But it's so darn cringe-cute!  ;D
Just make your fuckin\' guy and roll the dice, you pricks. Focus on what\'s interesting, not what gives you the biggest randomly generated virtual penis.  -- J Arcane
 
You know, people keep comparing non-TSR D&D to deck-building in Magic: the Gathering. But maybe it\'s more like Katamari Damacy. You keep sticking shit on your characters until they are big enough to be a star.
-- talysman

SHARK

Quote from: Opaopajr on January 07, 2024, 06:51:58 PM
Quote from: Slipshot762 on January 05, 2024, 10:56:36 AM
he can't he doesn't have the cope harder feat nor the levels in weeb shitstain required to get it.

Quote from: Slipshot762 on January 05, 2024, 06:46:33 PM
i didn't take the required "dip" into the furious weebshit tard homo class so i can't. My anus is now sad.

ETA:
NANI?!?!?!?

;D OK, I admit it, I laughed.  8) Forum antibodies have a sharp elbow sense of humor. Thanks.  ;)

That said, Domina does sound of that awkward coming of age where sounding right and pissing on shoes to claim space is so, so important.  :) I can't really get mad beyond the pity. It's almost adorable in its "wannabe, never was" energy. ;D

But eventually they'll age out of it and look back with shame. And... I don't see the point going that hard on youthful indiscretions, especially such tame ones. In fact my leniency might be the crueller choice because they might linger in this maladjusted stage longer than necessary. But it's so darn cringe-cute!  ;D

Greetings!

My friend, you are far more tolerant, patient, and gracious than I, I must confess. Such qualities in you, I have always admired and appreciated, Opaopajr.

I imagine that I have never possessed such qualities in great measure, for such is not my temperament. ;D

Cheers, my friend!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
"It is the Marine Corps that will strip away the façade so easily confused with self. It is the Corps that will offer the pain needed to buy the truth. And at last, each will own the privilege of looking inside himself  to discover what truly resides there. Comfort is an illusion. A false security b

Domina

Quote from: Opaopajr on January 07, 2024, 06:51:58 PM
Quote from: Slipshot762 on January 05, 2024, 10:56:36 AM
he can't he doesn't have the cope harder feat nor the levels in weeb shitstain required to get it.

Quote from: Slipshot762 on January 05, 2024, 06:46:33 PM
i didn't take the required "dip" into the furious weebshit tard homo class so i can't. My anus is now sad.

ETA:
NANI?!?!?!?

;D OK, I admit it, I laughed.  8) Forum antibodies have a sharp elbow sense of humor. Thanks.  ;)

That said, Domina does sound of that awkward coming of age where sounding right and pissing on shoes to claim space is so, so important.  :) I can't really get mad beyond the pity. It's almost adorable in its "wannabe, never was" energy. ;D

But eventually they'll age out of it and look back with shame. And... I don't see the point going that hard on youthful indiscretions, especially such tame ones. In fact my leniency might be the crueller choice because they might linger in this maladjusted stage longer than necessary. But it's so darn cringe-cute!  ;D

Still no arguments huh? kek