I have an "argument" for you cockholster;

It is that you are a M:tG kiddie who has never actually played D&D in your life; you have at best bastardized such by making "builds" instead of characters and trying so hard to be seen as competent or capable yet coming off only as both loud and weak, the first an indicator of the second, and that not even the other furries in your discord can tolerate you, they talk sorely about you when they think you are offline...

and no, sharing pics of your shaved legs in fishnets in discord did not in fact win you any accolades, but they WILL be used to blackmail you into sharing pics of that hairy butthole as well...and not even that, once done, will bring you any closer to being seen as anything other than an edgy angsty weebshit that barks loudly like a little mexican teacup doggy "yap! yap yap yap! yap!"...

kek!

You got some sort of intelligent response, little taco bell doggy, or just more tween-speak cope tinged with a hint of "daddy didn't beat my ass enough"?

Are you going to run to back to discord and tell them the mean old man was cruel to you and that now they must spend a day telling you that you ARE pretty, that your OC donut steel anime magic girl is their bestest and only waifu, and that your my little pony buttplug really brings out the brown in your eyes, elstwise you may cut yourself again?

Because nothing you say will convince any of us that such is not 100% exactly what occurs when we are not observing you...kek, a quantum troon with a chip on its shoulder smaller even than the tiny sack it pretends to have.

So now what you caustic abrasive over compensating little waste of meat? You gonna cry, weebtits? You gonna write an angry letter and demand daddy gov force everyone to acknowledge your greatness and validate your "build" as a meta-human half trans, half bitch, all retard unemployed discord graphics artist with a two-level dip into piss infected mutant cum guzzler?

Because I think that's exactly what you will do and see no evidence to suggest otherwise. Now that I've made it clear that normal humans see you as a boil on the ass of humanity you have some options; one is to learn and grow and better yourself, the other is to keep acting like a teenage girl until some bearded perv lures you into the back of the van with promises of viewing his rare 1st edition printing of squirtle...

Whichever you choose, know that I will say with full confidence that it was a pleasure to shit on your feeble fragile ego, and I look forward to the next opportunity to do so, which, I'm sure, you will be completely unable to deny me as your little weeb-puss oozes and aches with a need to be abused I gather....KEK!

NANI!?!?!?

  It's too perfect not to refer to Monty Python:

"I Came Here for an Argument." "Oh, no, This is Abuse." 
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5BRc5zV4YKU&pp=ygUbbW9udHkgcHl0aG9uIHRoaXMgaXMgYWJ1c2Ug

Thanks Slipshot762, this magical moment couldn't have happened without you.  Maybe their personal growth will arise from contact of such forum antibodies.  Either way, you amused me again!

Anyway, topic tax, I find using in-class assumed shared understanding a useful boost to Fighters as well.  This way hirelings of a particular class demographic increase power projection. For example, a bunch of hired men-at-arms would be aware of common battle tactics and formations at a command. They'd typically sort themselves out to match the command formation as per the field melee context as best they could, though you could add an attribute roll for complexities.

Similarly you could do the same for Thieves with footpads or burglars, naming off who does what roles and the like during a heist, mugging, con job, or burglary. And we can imagine so on and so forth with hireling acolytes & medics under a Cleric, or hireling apprentices under a Wizard. This way it turns money & loyalty into action economy and power projection, just like real life.  And they often end up being beloved NPCs that often carry the torch when PCs are retired.

Quote from: Klava on January 12, 2024, 06:47:39 AM

Greetings!

*Laughing* Hey there, Klava! Good to see you!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: Opaopajr on January 12, 2024, 06:35:55 AM
It's too perfect not to refer to Monty Python:

"I Came Here for an Argument." "Oh, no, This is Abuse." 
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5BRc5zV4YKU&pp=ygUbbW9udHkgcHl0aG9uIHRoaXMgaXMgYWJ1c2Ug

Thanks Slipshot762, this magical moment couldn't have happened without you.  Maybe their personal growth will arise from contact of such forum antibodies.  Either way, you amused me again!

Anyway, topic tax, I find using in-class assumed shared understanding a useful boost to Fighters as well.  This way hirelings of a particular class demographic increase power projection. For example, a bunch of hired men-at-arms would be aware of common battle tactics and formations at a command. They'd typically sort themselves out to match the command formation as per the field melee context as best they could, though you could add an attribute roll for complexities.

Similarly you could do the same for Thieves with footpads or burglars, naming off who does what roles and the like during a heist, mugging, con job, or burglary. And we can imagine so on and so forth with hireling acolytes & medics under a Cleric, or hireling apprentices under a Wizard. This way it turns money & loyalty into action economy and power projection, just like real life.  And they often end up being beloved NPCs that often carry the torch when PCs are retired.

Greetings!

Opaopajr! *Laughing* My gawd, Slipshot just opened a righteous can of whoop ass! That was so epic!

I love it!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

I do apologize for being a dick to all parties. You know I thought 3e was a great opportunity early on, and could be the start of something good...until I encountered these players who had not played D&D before 3e and who in my sample size seem to come from magic the gathering and bringing that adjudicational perspective with them. They did not seem to get that it's both a written and unwritten foundational D&D rule that the DM is likely not going to allow you to cheese, glitch, or broker an absurd outcome by a pedantic computer logic reading and application of the rules. And so w/o that understanding you are not then, to my eye, playing D&D.

As to the shadows in the whiteboard scenario (reminds me of the kid using a "RAW" ahem* approach and a 2nd level spell to kill/defeat the tarrasque via summoning an allip) being "tarded'" goes both ways; they do not have tremorsense nor bodies so hiding in the floor makes them blind and deaf and if you really want to be pedantic they are always blind/deaf anyway as they lack bodies to feel vibration or ears to do the same or eyes to see. So their ugly little heads would have to be sticking up thus granting players rolls to spot them. Don't even let the party gnome know because he will cobble up some interpretation of various meta-magic feats that ultimately let him run around with a bubble of repulse undead negating this contrived whiteboard gotcha BS anyway...it's like some people have never sat at a table and played with other humans before or something.

ETA: Fighter Options (Sorta)
One thing I found when going primarily to D6 system was that D&D in hindsight could solve many of its complaints by adopting the turn resolution order of D6. For example in D6 no one will generally do their second action before everyone does their first, whereas in 3e you get your turn on your initiative...this gives radically different outcomes. In 3e the wizards can move and cast a spell, in D6 the wizard can do either but only one before everyone else gets to do something, such as hurl daggers or torches at the wizard.

Quote from: Slipshot762 on January 12, 2024, 05:18:24 AM
I have an "argument" for you cockholster;

It is that you are a M:tG kiddie who has never actually played D&D in your life; you have at best bastardized such by making "builds" instead of characters and trying so hard to be seen as competent or capable yet coming off only as both loud and weak, the first an indicator of the second, and that not even the other furries in your discord can tolerate you, they talk sorely about you when they think you are offline...

and no, sharing pics of your shaved legs in fishnets in discord did not in fact win you any accolades, but they WILL be used to blackmail you into sharing pics of that hairy butthole as well...and not even that, once done, will bring you any closer to being seen as anything other than an edgy angsty weebshit that barks loudly like a little mexican teacup doggy "yap! yap yap yap! yap!"...

kek!

You got some sort of intelligent response, little taco bell doggy, or just more tween-speak cope tinged with a hint of "daddy didn't beat my ass enough"?

Are you going to run to back to discord and tell them the mean old man was cruel to you and that now they must spend a day telling you that you ARE pretty, that your OC donut steel anime magic girl is their bestest and only waifu, and that your my little pony buttplug really brings out the brown in your eyes, elstwise you may cut yourself again?

Because nothing you say will convince any of us that such is not 100% exactly what occurs when we are not observing you...kek, a quantum troon with a chip on its shoulder smaller even than the tiny sack it pretends to have.

So now what you caustic abrasive over compensating little waste of meat? You gonna cry, weebtits? You gonna write an angry letter and demand daddy gov force everyone to acknowledge your greatness and validate your "build" as a meta-human half trans, half bitch, all retard unemployed discord graphics artist with a two-level dip into piss infected mutant cum guzzler?

Because I think that's exactly what you will do and see no evidence to suggest otherwise. Now that I've made it clear that normal humans see you as a boil on the ass of humanity you have some options; one is to learn and grow and better yourself, the other is to keep acting like a teenage girl until some bearded perv lures you into the back of the van with promises of viewing his rare 1st edition printing of squirtle...

Whichever you choose, know that I will say with full confidence that it was a pleasure to shit on your feeble fragile ego, and I look forward to the next opportunity to do so, which, I'm sure, you will be completely unable to deny me as your little weeb-puss oozes and aches with a need to be abused I gather....KEK!

NANI!?!?!?

Quote from: Slipshot762 on January 12, 2024, 05:18:24 AM
I have an "argument" for you cockholster;

It is that you are a M:tG kiddie who has never actually played D&D in your life; you have at best bastardized such by making "builds" instead of characters and trying so hard to be seen as competent or capable yet coming off only as both loud and weak, the first an indicator of the second, and that not even the other furries in your discord can tolerate you, they talk sorely about you when they think you are offline...

and no, sharing pics of your shaved legs in fishnets in discord did not in fact win you any accolades, but they WILL be used to blackmail you into sharing pics of that hairy butthole as well...and not even that, once done, will bring you any closer to being seen as anything other than an edgy angsty weebshit that barks loudly like a little mexican teacup doggy "yap! yap yap yap! yap!"...

kek!

You got some sort of intelligent response, little taco bell doggy, or just more tween-speak cope tinged with a hint of "daddy didn't beat my ass enough"?

Are you going to run to back to discord and tell them the mean old man was cruel to you and that now they must spend a day telling you that you ARE pretty, that your OC donut steel anime magic girl is their bestest and only waifu, and that your my little pony buttplug really brings out the brown in your eyes, elstwise you may cut yourself again?

Because nothing you say will convince any of us that such is not 100% exactly what occurs when we are not observing you...kek, a quantum troon with a chip on its shoulder smaller even than the tiny sack it pretends to have.

So now what you caustic abrasive over compensating little waste of meat? You gonna cry, weebtits? You gonna write an angry letter and demand daddy gov force everyone to acknowledge your greatness and validate your "build" as a meta-human half trans, half bitch, all retard unemployed discord graphics artist with a two-level dip into piss infected mutant cum guzzler?

Because I think that's exactly what you will do and see no evidence to suggest otherwise. Now that I've made it clear that normal humans see you as a boil on the ass of humanity you have some options; one is to learn and grow and better yourself, the other is to keep acting like a teenage girl until some bearded perv lures you into the back of the van with promises of viewing his rare 1st edition printing of squirtle...

Whichever you choose, know that I will say with full confidence that it was a pleasure to shit on your feeble fragile ego, and I look forward to the next opportunity to do so, which, I'm sure, you will be completely unable to deny me as your little weeb-puss oozes and aches with a need to be abused I gather....KEK!

NANI!?!?!?

Greetings!

*Laughing* Damn, Slipshot762. Righteous, man. Absolutely righteous!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: Slipshot762 on January 12, 2024, 05:18:24 AM
I have an "argument" for you cockholster;

It is that you are a M:tG kiddie who has never actually played D&D in your life; you have at best bastardized such by making "builds" instead of characters and trying so hard to be seen as competent or capable yet coming off only as both loud and weak, the first an indicator of the second, and that not even the other furries in your discord can tolerate you, they talk sorely about you when they think you are offline...

and no, sharing pics of your shaved legs in fishnets in discord did not in fact win you any accolades, but they WILL be used to blackmail you into sharing pics of that hairy butthole as well...and not even that, once done, will bring you any closer to being seen as anything other than an edgy angsty weebshit that barks loudly like a little mexican teacup doggy "yap! yap yap yap! yap!"...

kek!

You got some sort of intelligent response, little taco bell doggy, or just more tween-speak cope tinged with a hint of "daddy didn't beat my ass enough"?

Are you going to run to back to discord and tell them the mean old man was cruel to you and that now they must spend a day telling you that you ARE pretty, that your OC donut steel anime magic girl is their bestest and only waifu, and that your my little pony buttplug really brings out the brown in your eyes, elstwise you may cut yourself again?

Because nothing you say will convince any of us that such is not 100% exactly what occurs when we are not observing you...kek, a quantum troon with a chip on its shoulder smaller even than the tiny sack it pretends to have.

So now what you caustic abrasive over compensating little waste of meat? You gonna cry, weebtits? You gonna write an angry letter and demand daddy gov force everyone to acknowledge your greatness and validate your "build" as a meta-human half trans, half bitch, all retard unemployed discord graphics artist with a two-level dip into piss infected mutant cum guzzler?

Because I think that's exactly what you will do and see no evidence to suggest otherwise. Now that I've made it clear that normal humans see you as a boil on the ass of humanity you have some options; one is to learn and grow and better yourself, the other is to keep acting like a teenage girl until some bearded perv lures you into the back of the van with promises of viewing his rare 1st edition printing of squirtle...

Whichever you choose, know that I will say with full confidence that it was a pleasure to shit on your feeble fragile ego, and I look forward to the next opportunity to do so, which, I'm sure, you will be completely unable to deny me as your little weeb-puss oozes and aches with a need to be abused I gather....KEK!

NANI!?!?!?

Didn't read lmao I'm based you're cringe

You're the one channeling tinkerbell, kid...

thanks for the laughs, spaz

Quote from: Domina on January 12, 2024, 10:56:05 AM

Quote from: Slipshot762 on January 12, 2024, 05:18:24 AM
I have an "argument" for you cockholster;

It is that you are a M:tG kiddie who has never actually played D&D in your life; you have at best bastardized such by making "builds" instead of characters and trying so hard to be seen as competent or capable yet coming off only as both loud and weak, the first an indicator of the second, and that not even the other furries in your discord can tolerate you, they talk sorely about you when they think you are offline...

and no, sharing pics of your shaved legs in fishnets in discord did not in fact win you any accolades, but they WILL be used to blackmail you into sharing pics of that hairy butthole as well...and not even that, once done, will bring you any closer to being seen as anything other than an edgy angsty weebshit that barks loudly like a little mexican teacup doggy "yap! yap yap yap! yap!"...

kek!

You got some sort of intelligent response, little taco bell doggy, or just more tween-speak cope tinged with a hint of "daddy didn't beat my ass enough"?

Are you going to run to back to discord and tell them the mean old man was cruel to you and that now they must spend a day telling you that you ARE pretty, that your OC donut steel anime magic girl is their bestest and only waifu, and that your my little pony buttplug really brings out the brown in your eyes, elstwise you may cut yourself again?

Because nothing you say will convince any of us that such is not 100% exactly what occurs when we are not observing you...kek, a quantum troon with a chip on its shoulder smaller even than the tiny sack it pretends to have.

So now what you caustic abrasive over compensating little waste of meat? You gonna cry, weebtits? You gonna write an angry letter and demand daddy gov force everyone to acknowledge your greatness and validate your "build" as a meta-human half trans, half bitch, all retard unemployed discord graphics artist with a two-level dip into piss infected mutant cum guzzler?

Because I think that's exactly what you will do and see no evidence to suggest otherwise. Now that I've made it clear that normal humans see you as a boil on the ass of humanity you have some options; one is to learn and grow and better yourself, the other is to keep acting like a teenage girl until some bearded perv lures you into the back of the van with promises of viewing his rare 1st edition printing of squirtle...

Whichever you choose, know that I will say with full confidence that it was a pleasure to shit on your feeble fragile ego, and I look forward to the next opportunity to do so, which, I'm sure, you will be completely unable to deny me as your little weeb-puss oozes and aches with a need to be abused I gather....KEK!

NANI!?!?!?

Didn't read lmao I'm based you're cringe

No, not based, just ADD. Like most of your spastic generation of psychos. Go cry to the therapist that feeds into your psychosis of being a trans-gendered man and still likes women.

lol spaz is still seething