Did they ever come out with a bits box like Wolves have? That was the biggest problem I had after cutting the troop box down to10.

Quote from: Warboss Squee;931207Did they ever come out with a bits box like Wolves have? That was the biggest problem I had after cutting the troop box down to10.

Bits box?  You mean an upgrade kit for Scions/Imperial Guard?  

I've seen a few from third party people, and Forge World has some.

Way back when, I played with a guy who used to run a IG tank army. He loved it and his foot units were an afterthought. Oddly, he did the same with an Eldar army too.

How the ratio of vehicles to infantry in the Tempestus army? I haven't played enough of the current 40k edition to know how they have overall dealt with vehicles.

Quote from: Spinachcat;931276Way back when, I played with a guy who used to run a IG tank army. He loved it and his foot units were an afterthought. Oddly, he did the same with an Eldar army too.

All IG infantry is good for is just mobs hurling 'oh shit' shots out there and -maybe- dropping someone once in a while.  The flamers, meltas, and plasma help- but not much.  It's too much of a points sink for me.  I'd rather just have them 'hold the line' and tarpit any infantry that comes my way.

Quote from: Spinachcat;931276How the ratio of vehicles to infantry in the Tempestus army? I haven't played enough of the current 40k edition to know how they have overall dealt with vehicles.

So you have 2 vehicles to choose from:

1- Taurox Prime.  You can rig it with a nasty gatling turret, a cannon, or the rocket launcher system (Frag or Krak).  Mounted on the sides you get the option to do either Autocannon or the Hotshot Volley cannon.  It is still butt-ugly no matter what.  To make it less butt-ugly, don't use the dumb lion stuff and paint it tactical colors.  

1- Valkyrie.  This thing can be pretty decent, but I've found it's best to pass on it unless you need something in the air to deal with your opponent's flyer.  

As far as infantry goes:

1- Scions:  These guys are pretty solid, about the same as the Storm Troopers/Kasrkins.  You get Hot-Shot rifle, Melta, Plasma, Hot-Shot Volley gun, G'nade launcher, or heavy flamer.  Sergeant can rock a Hot-Shot pistol or Bolter pistol for Free, or Plasma.  Comes with a pretty awesome chainsaw-bayonet pistol.  Can also use power axe (None included, and no idea where to find some that would look like modern tomahawks, sadly), power sword, power fist, or chainsword.  

2- Tempestus Prime command: Can use roughly same layout as Scion squad.  Tempestor Prime on the box looks like some weird knife-wielding pimp.  Scrap the coat, find some better way to designate them.

All of these guys come with several head options- basically helmets or berets.  I went with the helmets for the troops, beret with mask for the sergeant/prime

3- Prefectus Commissar.  Not a Lord Commissar, just a commissar.  And he's kind of useless unless you want to use that one particular formation.  I don't like it, I prefer CAD.  I always seem to do better.  But he looks cool.

So, a while back the GW team hinted at 'Plastic Sisters'.  It's been practically confirmed that we're getting an Adeptus Sororitas release.  Here's one of the models:

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Not really impressed, but it looks OK.

But yeah, yay, we're getting the bolter bitches again.  Neckbeards are practically squealing about it.

Honestly, it's hard for me to give a shit.  The Sisters were never that awesome.  They could do a few neat tricks but at around 1000 points and higher they were kind of useless.  They were originally teased in 3rd edition like "Guys, they'll be part Space Marines and part Imperial Guard!"  Except, of course, they got a lot of the 'meh' parts.  Fact is, they weren't that good and they never were that popular.  The reason they never got a proper Codex release is despite what all the neckbeards are howling- they weren't selling.  These guys like to pretend they were some special thing, but they were kind of useless outside of an Inquisition force with Grey Knights or Stormtroopers.  And now, they're still kind of useless with their current rules.  

They're the squats with armored titties- a thing that players pretend was awesome, because they think it gives them some credibility from playing 'the older and better stuff', which really wasn't all that great.  It's a cred-signalling thing.

Squats were fucking dumb and didn't do anything special.

Sisters sold well for the amount of effort and minis GW put into them, which wasn't much at all.

In fact, GW investment to $$, Sisters has been their best seller by far.

Quote from: Sommerjon;934162Sisters sold well for the amount of effort and minis GW put into them, which wasn't much at all.

In fact, GW investment to $$, Sisters has been their best seller by far.

If that's so, people have yet to explain why they quit supporting them.  

I mean, fuckin' Tallarn got better support.

heh, trolling much?

Anyhow, in RT Squats could equip every last guy in their infantry squads with a heavy bolter.  They were the biker army of the time.  Other armies could get some bikes but Squats specialized in them  The metal models were cool and the plastic ones were dorky.

Of the various Squat expies out there, Bob Olley's Scrunts are the best.  My favorite were the Texas Scrunts.  Hasslefree's Grimm are more realistically proportioned and equipped.  Mantics new Steel Warriors are nice and their powered armor guys sure are nicer than the old Squat exosuits.

Quote from: David Johansen;934195heh, trolling much?

Anyhow, in RT Squats could equip every last guy in their infantry squads with a heavy bolter.  They were the biker army of the time.  Other armies could get some bikes but Squats specialized in them  The metal models were cool and the plastic ones were dorky.

Of the various Squat expies out there, Bob Olley's Scrunts are the best.  My favorite were the Texas Scrunts.  Hasslefree's Grimm are more realistically proportioned and equipped.  Mantics new Steel Warriors are nice and their powered armor guys sure are nicer than the old Squat exosuits.

Not at all.  You're the first person to explain -something- about squats that sounds interesting.  Everyone else talks about them the same way 12-year-olds talk about Dark Angels.  "Dey ahre djust ahesome!"

They were also move 3, weapon skill 4, toughness 4, and leadership 9. Actually I'm pretty sure RT still had Cool and Leadership, can't recall if Squats had both at 9.  So, at the time they were tougher than Space Marines (who were T3) and better fighters than Orks.  It was a different game in a lot of ways.  Guard had bikers with twin-linked bolt guns and assault troopers with jump packs.  Everyone used Rhinos.

The Squats were also clear good guys if prone to bearing grudges.  They were semi-autonomous from the Imperium, didn't really need Tech Priests for much of anything, highly resistant to psychic powers.  They also may have been the most broken thing RT in this side of a Harlequin troupe.  Though, the Imperial Guard's auxiliary crack grenade launchers were pretty fun.  Having 30 24" range crack grenades aimed at your marines wasn't much fun.  

Quote from: David Johansen;934198They were also move 3, weapon skill 4, toughness 4, and leadership 9. Actually I'm pretty sure RT still had Cool and Leadership, can't recall if Squats had both at 9.  So, at the time they were tougher than Space Marines (who were T3) and better fighters than Orks.  It was a different game in a lot of ways.  Guard had bikers with twin-linked bolt guns and assault troopers with jump packs.  Everyone used Rhinos.

The Squats were also clear good guys if prone to bearing grudges.  They were semi-autonomous from the Imperium, didn't really need Tech Priests for much of anything, highly resistant to psychic powers.  They also may have been the most broken thing RT in this side of a Harlequin troupe.  Though, the Imperial Guard's auxiliary crack grenade launchers were pretty fun.  Having 30 24" range crack grenades aimed at your marines wasn't much fun.  

See, I'd read your stuff and say "This guy knows his shit and loved the squats".  I'm not joking, you are the first person to ever explain them in such a way.  As I said, everyone else seemed to be just saying how awesome they were for the credibility... sort of like a kid that was born in 1987 saying how much 'better' the metal concerts were in the 80's- but he's never been to one, he's just repeating what he's heard other folks say.  

I feel the same way about Sisters.  They had a couple of neat tricks, but they were the Tempestus Scions of that time- just a novel little army that was just 'more of the same shit you already have' at over 1000 points.   And since most people played at 1200-1250 at the shops, they were a rare sight.

Are the Sisters finally getting a codex?

Quote from: Crüesader;934037The reason they never got a proper Codex release is despite what all the neckbeards are howling- they weren't selling.

Armies with a current codex always sell better.

If they can make a Genestealer Cult army, they can make a Sisters army and do it with game mechanic coolness. I liked the Sister's fluff and I've used them as NPCs in Dark Heresy. They're badass and more involved in humanity's affairs (like Cults) than the Space Marines who are off fighting the Big Bads.

Quote from: Crüesader;934201Squats were fucking dumb and didn't do anything special.

Dude...space dwarves. What's not to love?

When RT came out, the squats had some of the best art. They were quintessential punker dwarfs, riding hoverboards and packing plasma guns.

In RT play, I agree with David. Squats and Ogryns were popular support units for IG armies. Of course, when I say army in RT, I am mostly talking skirmish games. We mostly played with each player having around 20-30 figs on the table. Hell, we played lots of squad vs. squad games too, which probably was why we jumped on Necromunda later on.

Quote from: Crüesader;934201sort of like a kid that was born in 1987 saying how much 'better' the metal concerts were in the 80's- but he's never been to one, he's just repeating what he's heard other folks say.  

Its true there was something amazing seeing the Metal Gods when the classic songs were just released, but I don't miss the stupid violence of the 80s mosh pits where morons showed up just to hurt people. Today, the pits are more about stupid fun, WWE bumping and mostly, moshers take better care of each other and leave the front rows in relative peace. I do miss stage divers (too rare these days) and I don't like crowd surfers (watch your damn feet).

Quote from: Crüesader;934188If that's so, people have yet to explain why they quit supporting them.  

I mean, fuckin' Tallarn got better support.

Politics at the Mothership.

Quote from: David Johansen;934198Though, the Imperial Guard's auxiliary crack grenade launchers were pretty fun.  Having 30 24" range crack grenades aimed at your marines wasn't much fun.  

Hahaha that was annoying as hell.

Quote from: Crüesader;934037So, a while back the GW team hinted at 'Plastic Sisters'.  It's been practically confirmed that we're getting an Adeptus Sororitas release.  Here's one of the models:

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But a good match for one of the best RT illustrations.

Quote from: Sommerjon;934240Politics at the Mothership.

Fortunately, things are looking better these days.  It's a good day when you can only complain about prices at GW.  Hopefully, sisters aren't going to be as useless as I remember.