Quote from: Sommerjon;921479This is you trying way too hard.

At this point you're deliberately trying to derail the thread.  I'm going to have to ask you to either contribute something of substance or go troll elsewhere.

Quote from: Crüesader;921482At this point you're deliberately trying to derail the thread.  I'm going to have to ask you to either contribute something of substance or go troll elsewhere.

This is you pouting.

Quote from: Crüesader;921482At this point you're deliberately trying to derail the thread.  I'm going to have to ask you to either contribute something of substance or go troll elsewhere.

You're wasting your time arguing with a troll who's just going to parrot stupid responses back to you. Put him on your ignore list, resist the impulse to respond, and go back to talking about 40k rumors. I find that interesting.

Quote from: K Peterson;921499You're wasting your time arguing with a troll who's just going to parrot stupid responses back to you. Put him on your ignore list, resist the impulse to respond, and go back to talking about 40k rumors. I find that interesting.

Have some pictures:

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Looks like the Genestealer cult's vehicle is some kinda mining vehicle, curious to see how it operates.  

There's some new stuff about Chaos focused on the Thousand Sons and Space Wolves, but there might be more Chaos stuff.  Hard for me to get stoked about Chaos because the last thing they released was 'bleh', and I was really hoping for something focused on the Alpha Legion.

Quote from: K Peterson;921499You're wasting your time arguing with a troll who's just going to parrot stupid responses back to you. Put him on your ignore list, resist the impulse to respond, and go back to talking about 40k rumors. I find that interesting.

Damn dude you are hurting my feelings.

Just a little fyi, this thread hasn't been about 40k rumors for like 40 posts.

Quote from: TristramEvans;921430It lacks Mordheim's aesthetics, which for me, were at least 75% of the appeal. Mordheim had a specific feel all its own, drenched in the rich lore of Warhammer but still managing to be its own thing.

To be honest I find the Warhammer milieu kind of off-putting (as much as I love Chaos in the Old World's mechanics, the art and fluff annoy me).  How are the rules separate from the setting?

Quote from: daniel_ream;921553To be honest I find the Warhammer milieu kind of off-putting (as much as I love Chaos in the Old World's mechanics, the art and fluff annoy me).  How are the rules separate from the setting?

Mordheim just used an expanded version of the Warhammer system. If you don't like Warhammer's aesthetics (noting that Mordheim was veryVery different in aesthetics from Chaos in the Old World), Frostgrave would probably be the better choice for you.

So after listening to the developer's vlog on the Genestealer cults, apparently these are the highlights:

-'Ambush' focused army, where units can slip away and strike at the enemy.
-Nasty in close range melee.
-The truck is pretty resilient.
-Can use Chimaira and Leman Russ.

I must say that I love the trucks.  I could see a lot of guard players using them instead of the Taurox.

Quote from: David Johansen;921728I must say that I love the trucks.  I could see a lot of guard players using them instead of the Taurox.

Seriously, that Taurox is one shit-ugly ride.

Here's a bit of the stats and such for it:

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Quote from: TristramEvans;921430Frostgrave has a similar premise to Mordheim....each player controls a small warband of figures, led by a wizard, treasure hunting in a ruined city. It's far more focused on the magic aspect of the game, and obviously uses a different system than Mordheim. The system seems functional, nothing special but solid. Sometimes that's a good thing.

From just a game mechanics perspective, what do we gain with Frostgrave? And mechanically, what are we losing compared to Mordheim?

Quote from: Spinachcat;921964From just a game mechanics perspective, what do we gain with Frostgrave? And mechanically, what are we losing compared to Mordheim?

Frostgrave is more heavily focused on magic, and the magic system is quite nice. I'm not the sort of gamer that spends hours trying to find loopholes (and don't play with those sorts of people) but it seems generally well-balanced while providing a wealth of options. Beyond that, though, Frostgrave isn't exceptionally customizable, as far as one's entourage goes. Mordheim provide a wealth of options, whereas Frostgrave is more streamlined (a knight is a knight is a knight sort of thing). The Frostgrave system uses d20s...whether thats a plus, minus or neutral depends on taste. I've never been a huge fan. Mordheim seemed in my experience to have deadlier combat, and overall to be a bit "grittier" (generally expect to lose one or more soldiers per game).

Quote from: David Johansen;921728I must say that I love the trucks.  I could see a lot of guard players using them instead of the Taurox.

I started playing with Tempestus Scions.  Kinda fun army, and I prefer them over standard IG armies.  (A lot less painting, and you can make them look a bit less fucked).

The Taurox is still butt-ugly, but I'll be damned if that Gatling Cannon isn't great for shitting on hordes or removing some asshole like a Solitaire from the board.

Also, a bit late to the game but some new 'Start Collecting' boxes are coming out.

Admech, Deathwatch, Space Wolves, and Tau are getting 'big boxes'.  Probably over $100, but a hell of a thing to get for Christmas and start with.

I have to say, I thoroughly enjoy Deathwatch.  I like the armor style, the weapons, and the sheer comical fuckery they can do.  

Comedy:  Drop Pod with a wad of Melee guys.  Use a Team focused on whatever your opponent loves to put down.  Drop them with the beacon angelis.  Have some Shield guys up front and a Blackshield with the Heavy Thunder Hammer.  That's a D-Weapon on a roll of 6 to wound.  You can re-roll failed to wounds against the enemy if you've got the proper team build for it.  You've got a Blackshield, so if it's a HQ, Super Heavy, MC, or they outnumber you- he does this TWICE.

What makes the Tempestus Scions more interesting for IG?

Quote from: Spinachcat;931080What makes the Tempestus Scions more interesting for IG?

Honestly?

1- Less shit to paint.  I don't like painting guardsmen, especially guardsmen that are most commonly available in smaller boxes (Catachans are getting harder to find, and I'm not dropping Forge World bucks for Death Korps).  

2- Their limitations.  I know, that sounds dumb- but making IG perform really well happens at 1000 points.  Been there, done that, and it's just too expensive.  While Scions are limited, I can use them as allies to other armies that are smaller but seem cooler/more fun to me.  That's a good feature, especially if you like variety.

3- They look pretty cool if you glue the grenades, ammo pouches, and belts and stuff.  You can add IG bits to them and make them even more 'tacticool'.  And I don't use their box color scheme- I'm using more brown/tan.