Motes and beams. I've seen antis use "tranny" as a slur to attack female GG supporters.

Now, in a debate with any kind of honesty, we might say that there are a few unsavory types on both sides, but for these SJW types, honesty is not one of their virtues. So transphobia on the side of the antis is dismissed or ignored, and trolling from people, not even those calling themselves GGers is "Proof that the whole thing is rotten!"

Anywhoodle, this blaming of GG for attacks on trans persons, I'm reserving most of my judgement until more info comes out, but in the meantime, I'm of the suspicion that it's simply an attempt to attach transphobia to the GG movement without any direct evidence.

This whole thing is such a wonderful example of Online Tribalism: the way high tech monkeys like us fling our crap at rival troops.

So this being the first I've heard of it, is there any proof of this?o

Quote from: Warboss Squee;807932So this being the first I've heard of it, is there any proof of this?o

Of course not. And if anyone asks, they'll be banned.

So, in resorting to Google I've found this so far:

Quote from: The Spideygirl Blog[Update: Additional e-mails have been added regarding the date of the firing.] Allistar Pinsof, a former writer for Destructoid, has come forward after dealing with a year of turmoil and frustratio...
Holy shit.  Gamergate bomb drop.  TLDR version.

Pre-op transsexual sets up IndieGoGo under pretense of "life saving surgery".  Game journos support and signal boost the IndieGoGo.  Actual surgery is SRS.
Journalist Allistar Pinsof feels ethical need expose the fraudulent IndieGoGo, unfortunately outing her as trans.
IndieGoGo cancels the donation drive because of fraudulent information, as per their ToS.
The trans woman, unfortunately, attempts suicide on a live stream.  She is saved and put on suicide watch.
Pinsof profusely apologizes, as his actions caused her to attempt suicide.
Later, Pinsof actually helps this woman form and do a legit donation drive for her SRS.
The Game Journos Pro discuss in detail with one another how to handle him and, eventually, decide to fire and black list him.  This is collusion, as it has competitors actively discussing and influencing somebody's job position.  Using this list to promote a secret blacklist in the industry is beyond unethical and in many states flat out illegal.

and that led me to this:

Who Owns a Woman's Truth?


and this:

Destructoid Writer Suspended for outing trans* woman who held fraudulent fundraiser for SRS

Still researching, but assuming this is the events being referenced, I've yet to come across any Gamergate connections

Perhaps because there is no connection and the social justice warriors flat out lied about that connection.  It isn't the first time they lied and manipulated people to win support.

Quote from: Snowman0147;807937Perhaps because there is no connection and the social justice warriors flat out lied about that connection.  It isn't the first time they lied and manipulated people to win support.

Well, again, if its SomethingElse, thats pretty much their M.O.

Their reputation proceeds them.

Quote from: Nexus;807930This whole thing is such a wonderful example of Online Tribalism: the way high tech monkeys like us fling our crap at rival troops.

At this point I'd prefer the traditional version.


OOK! OOK! OOK OOK!  

QuotePre-op transsexual sets up IndieGoGo under pretense of "life saving surgery". Game journos support and signal boost the IndieGoGo. Actual surgery is SRS.

Gah, had an argument with someone over this exact turn of terminology a few years back and only really held to the point because I knew what people's reactions would be if they found out the vaguely defined surgery was SRS. Didn't ever want to be proved right on that one. There are folks who consider it life saving surgery, from the sounds of things the person running the indiegogo campaign was one of those folks.

It isn't GG trolls who did this, it's people who just don't see the surgery as the deal that it can be to others. Hence I encourage people to fully disclose what they're doing with the money rather than hiding behind a nebulous life saving procedure. Though I will say none of the folks who have done it that way have ever gotten the money that I'm aware of, at least none of them got nailed for fraud. And legally speaking using a anything but your legal name for such purposes is fraud, and claiming it to be a life saving procedure could be argued if someone really wanted to ream you.

Doesn't make the fall out much less sad to me though.

And yes, Bootleg is Else.

Quote from: TristramEvans;807939Well, again, if its SomethingElse, thats pretty much their M.O.

'their'?

Quote from: Will;807983'their'?

You're not one of those people who throw a shit fit whenever people use a plural pronoun for a singular antecedent are you?

Only tightass grammar nazis get really offput by that anymore.  Now it's a pretty common occurrence in the English language, and has been for a while, and nobody really cares.

I mean, do you get upset if someone says, "Everybody should take their seat"?

No, I'm one of those people who gives people the stinkeye when they can't bring themselves to refer to trans folks as the gender they identify as.

Quote from: Will;807987No, I'm one of those people who gives people the stinkeye when they can't bring themselves to refer to trans folks as the gender they identify as.

OH, so you're one of those people who instead of recognizing an extremely common usage of the word, you'll automatically assume he's anti-trans by intentionally refusing to use the right pronoun?

People like you are just as big of the problem as those who actually do spout bigoted things, because you assume bigotry in things that aren't, effectively shutting down any conversation and painting anyone who disagrees with you as a bigot.

*Edit* I'd rather have stuck with my original assumption that you were a grammar nazi douchebag.  But your clarification makes my opinion of you even lower.  At least the grammar nazis have some technical legitimacy to that complaint.

Are there many other Indigogo campaigns for life-saving surgery? If there are, then I'm a little upset that someone used that reason dishonestly unless he/she really DID need this operation in a life/death situation.

The one(s) who found out the truth should have approached the individual first and encouraged them to come out honestly to their funders. I mean, before reporting them and "forcing" them to come out, so to speak.

Everyone appreciates honesty. Misleading people, even for good intentions, is still inherently wrong. Especially if there are others out there with a REAL need for a life-saving operation.

Quote from: Will;807987No, I'm one of those people who gives people the stinkeye when they can't bring themselves to refer to trans folks as the gender they identify as.

Your scolding response assumes that the writer knows (a) that SomethingElse is a trans folk, (b) what pronoun SomethingElse prefers for reference, and (c) intentionally used a different pronoun. Why would you assume all three things?

Despite recognizing the screen name from RPGnet, I certainly don't know (a) or (b) about the person using the name SomethingElse.