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Author Topic: #GamerGate: Fighting for a more ethical world  (Read 10672 times)

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« Reply #180 on: January 06, 2015, 12:59:33 AM »
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« Reply #181 on: January 06, 2015, 02:31:34 AM »
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You really are making a special effort this week, eh?

For all of your posturing about "a more ethical world", ethics have never really been the thing that's important to you lot.

You've brought shame to our hobby.
“Gosh it’s so interesting (profoundly unsurprising) how men with all these opinions about women’s differentiation between sexual misconduct, assault and rape reveal themselves to be utterly tone deaf and as a result, systemically part of the problem.” - Minnie Driver, December 2017

" Using the phrase "virtue signalling" is 'I'm a sociopath' signalling ". J Wright, July 2018

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« Reply #182 on: January 06, 2015, 02:40:51 AM »
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For all of your posturing about "a more ethical world", ethics have never really been the thing that's important to you lot.


What "lot" is that?
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« Reply #183 on: January 06, 2015, 02:43:55 AM »
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You really are making a special effort this week, eh?

For all of your posturing about "a more ethical world", ethics have never really been the thing that's important to you lot.

You've brought shame to our hobby.

Calm down, my mistake - She's a cunt, and her having a cunt in place of a former dick has nothing to do with it. From your own article, Dredd

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If you don't always get it right, don't freak out. Don't make big deal of it, Kailey writes on Tranifesto.

And yes, I am definitely not in this thread for ethics, but for shits and giggles. I come to RPGsite for gaming discussions - GamerGate seems like the sort of shit that's not about gaming, it's a case where at this point, there'll be no determination who'll be right, only who'll be left. I just wish I could open my fridge without a thread about it popping out, but I guess that's what I get for buying an Android fridge.

I kid, I couldn't afford one.

And really, the moment I truly brought shame to this hobby was when I was running a Post - Apocalypse game high as Snoop Dogg clutching Bellerophon, when I pulled such great ideas as Communion Through Semen (I was 17 to my additional defence). At least 2 people were afraid to game with me for 2 - 3 years to come after that.

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What "lot" is that?

The Lot's lot and the lot of his three daughters.
« Last Edit: January 06, 2015, 02:58:41 AM by Rincewind1 »
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« Reply #184 on: January 06, 2015, 02:54:18 AM »
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What "lot" is that?


Well, Chris Kluwe is a harder-core gamer than I will ever be, and he sums it up like this.

You want to clean up gaming journalism, that's awesome.

But you need to clean up your own house first.

No, I'm not saying you individually are responsible for this stuff, but you absolutely can't succeed with that objective until you decontaminate the hashtag.

As one of the commenters put it:

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Note how the GGers in your mention are more devoted to declaiming responsibility than decrying that it happened at all.


That bit? That's what a significant chunk of this whole thread is.
“Gosh it’s so interesting (profoundly unsurprising) how men with all these opinions about women’s differentiation between sexual misconduct, assault and rape reveal themselves to be utterly tone deaf and as a result, systemically part of the problem.” - Minnie Driver, December 2017

" Using the phrase "virtue signalling" is 'I'm a sociopath' signalling ". J Wright, July 2018

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« Reply #185 on: January 06, 2015, 03:04:33 AM »
Re: Hentai:
I wasn't suggesting people posted dick hand characters, but if you look at those tentacle hands, the shape should be evocative.

And hey, I'm exhausted but have insomnia and drinking isn't helping, so I think I'll go whip up some dickhands.
« Last Edit: January 06, 2015, 03:07:57 AM by Will »
This forum is great in that the moderators aren't jack-booted fascists.

Unfortunately, this forum is filled with total a-holes, including a bunch of rape culture enabling dillholes.

So embracing the 'no X is better than bad X,' I'm out of here. If you need to find me I'm sure you can.

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« Reply #186 on: January 06, 2015, 03:07:57 AM »
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You want to clean up gaming journalism, that's awesome.

But you need to clean up your own house first. No, I'm not saying you
individually are responsible for this stuff, but you absolutely can't succeed with that objective until you decontaminate the hashtag.

Hm, you seem to think you're talking to Gamergaters here in this thread.  You're not. I for one could give a crap about "cleaning up gaming journalism". If I buy a game mag its for the pretty pictures or to steal maps/level layouts for a REAL RPG.

I have never used ANY hashtag, avoiding Twitter like the intellectual abyss that it is, so could care less about cleaning up the Gamergate hashtag.

But I am in a perfectly fine position to criticize the the vocally anti-gamergater's for their hipocrisy, lies, and generally unpleasantness. So one could just as easily say "Have a problem with Gamergate? Clean up your own house first".

And Chris Kluwe is the guy who "was pushing for locker-room-culture change while at some point he cut a hole in his pants to mock children being raped" ?


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That bit? That's what a significant chunk of this whole thread is.

Yeah, what you'll find here is posters who don't automatically swallow the party line and drink the kool-aid just because its being passed around. I'm interested in the truth, not the biased accusations of one group of idiots online or another. I realize on other forums online, Gamergate is a gone conclusion: "they are an evil organization devoted to destroying women in gaming!" However, the actual evidence paints a much different , and like everything in the real world, much more complicated picture.

If you've got an argument to make, that's great. Join in, provide your proof, and watch how reasonable people will actually change their mind if a competent debate is engaged. But if you're expecting anyone to roll over and go "OK, you say so, so that must be the way it is", you've go the wrong forum.

Convictions cause convicts.
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« Reply #187 on: January 06, 2015, 03:10:47 AM »
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Re: Hentai:
I wasn't suggesting people posted dick hand characters, but if you look at those tentacle hands, the shape should be evocative.

And hey, I'm exhausted but have insomnia and drinking isn't helping, so I think I'll go whip up some dickhands.


Its sad that pictures of dickhands would actually improve the overall tone of the thread.
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« Reply #188 on: January 06, 2015, 03:13:34 AM »
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Yeah, what you'll find here is posters who don't automatically swallow the party line and drink the kool-aid just because its being passed around.

That, and I am sure to a degree, this thread actually keeps a certain degree of local BNGs and trolls committed to one, easily walled off from my eyes section.

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Re: Hentai:
I wasn't suggesting people posted dick hand characters, but if you look at those tentacle hands, the shape should be evocative.

And hey, I'm exhausted but have insomnia and drinking isn't helping, so I think I'll go whip up some dickhands.

Jazzhands, but with dicks. And it's okay Will, it's a brave new world out there. A wank for every man, and every man for his wanker.

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Well, Chris Kluwe is a harder-core gamer than I will ever be

Something tells me that's not hard to do.
« Last Edit: January 06, 2015, 03:18:48 AM by Rincewind1 »
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« Reply #189 on: January 06, 2015, 03:21:25 AM »
There:
http://tinyurl.com/p5ho6be
and

http://tinyurl.com/pkyvp4s


On a related note, working on 3d art, it's clear how much of it is aimed at amateur virtual pornographers.
This forum is great in that the moderators aren't jack-booted fascists.

Unfortunately, this forum is filled with total a-holes, including a bunch of rape culture enabling dillholes.

So embracing the 'no X is better than bad X,' I'm out of here. If you need to find me I'm sure you can.

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« Reply #190 on: January 06, 2015, 03:29:12 AM »
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There:
http://tinyurl.com/p5ho6be
and

http://tinyurl.com/pkyvp4s


On a related note, working on 3d art, it's clear how much of it is aimed at amateur virtual pornographers.


With the added creepyness of the Uncanny Valley!
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« Reply #191 on: January 06, 2015, 03:36:06 AM »
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Something tells me that's not hard to do.


Because Kluwe doesn't hide behind 8 Chan anonymity, etc.
“Gosh it’s so interesting (profoundly unsurprising) how men with all these opinions about women’s differentiation between sexual misconduct, assault and rape reveal themselves to be utterly tone deaf and as a result, systemically part of the problem.” - Minnie Driver, December 2017

" Using the phrase "virtue signalling" is 'I'm a sociopath' signalling ". J Wright, July 2018

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« Reply #192 on: January 06, 2015, 03:38:39 AM »
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Because Kluwe doesn't hide behind 8 Chan anonymity, etc.

No, I just didn't ever see you post about games here. But it's okay - enjoy the Little Tangency.
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« Reply #193 on: January 06, 2015, 03:47:11 AM »
Er, I should note that while my links are suggestive (particularly if I say 'dickhands!'), they aren't actually pornographic or anything.
This forum is great in that the moderators aren't jack-booted fascists.

Unfortunately, this forum is filled with total a-holes, including a bunch of rape culture enabling dillholes.

So embracing the 'no X is better than bad X,' I'm out of here. If you need to find me I'm sure you can.

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« Reply #194 on: January 06, 2015, 06:12:19 AM »
I'm just going to go ahead and close this before more people say stuff they'll regret (too late in some cases, i note). Singling out a person who has fuck all to do with anything is extremely lame.