Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on August 05, 2023, 01:04:48 PM
You raise a good point. Why are gamers suddenly up in arms now when gay content has been around for a while? Well, it's probably due to the general backlash against the left after all their unreasonable demands. People who wouldn't have cared in the 00s only care now because they now think they're supposed to. It's definitely a panic, but it's grounded in far better reasoning than the delusional Satanic Panic. Instead of "Satan uses rock music to lure teenagers into Hell!" it's now "the left uses fetishistic imagery to lure kids into extreme body modification and disgusting paraphilias."

If furries wanna furry in the privacy of their dingy basements strewn with plastic toys, then that's none of my business. But when they do it in public and demand that I applaud them if I don't want to be burned at the stake, then I find myself wanting to disagree.

I still don't care, I don't even care if they want to put their disgustin paraphilias in a game, I'm pointing it out so others who agree with me about it being disgusting and that also find it goes against their principles to fund such degenerates can avoid doing so.

But for some that's beyond the pale, it's ME calling for banning the game, it's me creating a moral panic. Which means the Satanic Panic was only calling for people not to buy D&D and not burning the books and putting all sorts of false claims about the game.

I can point EXACTLY at the degeneracy in BG3 and have done so: Bestiality & Futas to cite the few we are shure are there. Yet NO ONE can produce a quote from me (here or elsewhere) calling for banning the book.

Quote from: Effete on August 04, 2023, 10:29:10 PM

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on August 04, 2023, 09:17:29 PM
Does it have hardcore porn scenes too? If not, then what the fuck is full frontal nudity doing there?

People only bought Playboy for the articles.

Playboy was when beautiful women were still beautiful women. Let's not touch Playboy.

And Stanley Kubrick did some great interviews for Playboy.

Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 05, 2023, 01:17:45 PM
I still don't care, I don't even care if they want to put their disgustin paraphilias in a game, I'm pointing it out so others who agree with me about it being disgusting and that also find it goes against their principles to fund such degenerates can avoid doing so.

But for some that's beyond the pale, it's ME calling for banning the game, it's me creating a moral panic. Which means the Satanic Panic was only calling for people not to buy D&D and not burning the books and putting all sorts of false claims about the game.

I can point EXACTLY at the degeneracy in BG3 and have done so: Bestiality & Futas to cite the few we are shure are there. Yet NO ONE can produce a quote from me (here or elsewhere) calling for banning the book.

It's optional  content, don't like it, don't take that path.

We're not saying you're calling for it to be banned. We're saying you're bitching at nothing for its own sake.

You know, kind of like how SJWs do.

Quote from: Reckall on August 05, 2023, 01:19:04 PM

Quote from: Effete on August 04, 2023, 10:29:10 PM
People only bought Playboy for the articles.

Playboy was when beautiful women were still beautiful women. Let's not touch Playboy.

And Stanley Kubrick did some great interviews for Playboy.

Playboy's interview system is the gold standard back in the day. There legit were people who bought it for the articles and that was hilarious.

Had tons of great tits btw.

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on August 05, 2023, 01:04:48 PM
You raise a good point. Why are gamers suddenly up in arms now when gay content has been around for a while? Well, it's probably due to the general backlash against the left after all their unreasonable demands. People who wouldn't have cared in the 00s only care now because they now think they're supposed to. It's definitely a panic, but it's grounded in far better reasoning than the delusional Satanic Panic. Instead of "Satan uses rock music to lure teenagers into Hell!" it's now "the left uses fetishistic imagery to lure kids into extreme body modification and disgusting paraphilias."

Bad comparison. You're comparing the claim and the counter claim.

"Satan uses rock music to lure teenagers into Hell!" compared to "Pornography and women who don't look like man will lure boys in with the male gaze and turn them all into wife beaters and rapists"

While "the left uses fetishistic imagery to lure kids into extreme body modification and disgusting paraphilias" and "the 1980s moral guardian bible bangers were sexist, racist, and extremely anti-science to the point they lived in their own delusional little bubble realities."

Shit is shit and there is no "they had the better excuse".

QuoteIf furries wanna furry in the privacy of their dingy basements strewn with plastic toys, then that's none of my business. But when they do it in public and demand that I applaud them if I don't want to be burned at the stake, then I find myself wanting to disagree.

Hold on there... even the Furries tend to think a lot of those people are deranged.

If you want to bitch about creepy fetishists, the Futa fetishists are the pornographic intersection of Weeb and SJW. *shudders*

Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 05, 2023, 01:17:45 PM
I can point EXACTLY at the degeneracy in BG3 and have done so: Bestiality & Futas to cite the few we are shure are there. Yet NO ONE can produce a quote from me (here or elsewhere) calling for banning the book.

Just out of curiosity... Have you also called out the degeneracy of being a Warlock Acolyte of Asmodeus exchanging servitude for hellish favours (because you can do that in BG3 - right from the character's creation), or "degeneracy", to you, belongs only to one side of the Aisle?

Quote from: Psyckosama on August 05, 2023, 01:26:17 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 05, 2023, 01:17:45 PM
I still don't care, I don't even care if they want to put their disgustin paraphilias in a game, I'm pointing it out so others who agree with me about it being disgusting and that also find it goes against their principles to fund such degenerates can avoid doing so.

But for some that's beyond the pale, it's ME calling for banning the game, it's me creating a moral panic. Which means the Satanic Panic was only calling for people not to buy D&D and not burning the books and putting all sorts of false claims about the game.

I can point EXACTLY at the degeneracy in BG3 and have done so: Bestiality & Futas to cite the few we are shure are there. Yet NO ONE can produce a quote from me (here or elsewhere) calling for banning the book.

It's optional  content, don't like it, don't take that path.

We're not saying you're calling for it to be banned. We're saying you're bitching at nothing for its own sake.

You know, kind of like how SJWs do.

Except you're lying about that and, unlike Reckall and YOU I can prove it, while talking about me and those who (like me) are shinning a light in the degeneracy:

Quote from: Psyckosama on August 05, 2023, 12:27:41 PM

A-fuckin'-men.

I hate all forms of Moral Panic and anyone who'd try and instigate one.

Now as for your (both you and Reckall's) "It's optional!". Let's postulate a few hypotheticals:

Game exists and has OPTIONAL (and genuine) anti-semitic content, is your position that Jews should not shine a light on it and refuse to buy it?

Game exists and has OPTIONAL (and genuine) CP, is your position that NO ONE should shine a light on it and refuse to buy it?

Lol @ the "in the privacy of their own bedroom" trope.

They always move the goalposts...the problem with LGBTQ degeneracy is that it doesn't just stay in the bedroom...they don't reproduce so they have to recruit...to groom if you will, which is why they are targeting children so hard now and polluting the commons with degeneracy such as Pride.

The reason the slope has slipped this far is precisely because we were too tolerant. We have lost our collective morality and will to enforce it as a society.

Once you start doing a full accounting of all costs and imposed costs the libertarian model falls apart.

I'm with Geeky.

Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 05, 2023, 01:45:33 PM

Quote from: Psyckosama on August 05, 2023, 01:26:17 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 05, 2023, 01:17:45 PM
I still don't care, I don't even care if they want to put their disgustin paraphilias in a game, I'm pointing it out so others who agree with me about it being disgusting and that also find it goes against their principles to fund such degenerates can avoid doing so.

But for some that's beyond the pale, it's ME calling for banning the game, it's me creating a moral panic. Which means the Satanic Panic was only calling for people not to buy D&D and not burning the books and putting all sorts of false claims about the game.

I can point EXACTLY at the degeneracy in BG3 and have done so: Bestiality & Futas to cite the few we are shure are there. Yet NO ONE can produce a quote from me (here or elsewhere) calling for banning the book.

It's optional  content, don't like it, don't take that path.

We're not saying you're calling for it to be banned. We're saying you're bitching at nothing for its own sake.

You know, kind of like how SJWs do.

Except you're lying about that and, unlike Reckall and YOU I can prove it, while talking about me and those who (like me) are shinning a light in the degeneracy:

Quote from: Psyckosama on August 05, 2023, 12:27:41 PM

A-fuckin'-men.

I hate all forms of Moral Panic and anyone who'd try and instigate one.

Now as for your (both you and Reckall's) "It's optional!". Let's postulate a few hypotheticals:

Game exists and has OPTIONAL (and genuine) anti-semitic content, is your position that Jews should not shine a light on it and refuse to buy it?

They surely can (I see you once again missed the openly written obvious: no one is forcing you to buy BG3).

However, anti-semitism is a clearly defined view of the World (and even a Jew could argue that without the opportunity to choose there would be no value in refusing anti-semitism).

If something is Xenophobic and the Jews would only denounce anti-semitism, however, I would wonder "Geez... so the Jews are throwing us Italians under the bus?" The correct approach would be denouncing the whole Xenophobic contents.

"Degeneracy" comprises a lot of things - even before considering how different cultures have different ideas about what's degenerate and what isn't (I'll pick a random example: furries aren't in 90% of the World).

And yet here you are: running in circles, screaming, and warning people that you can fuck a bear (*), but omitting that you can be the gleeful servant of a demonic Lord.

You don't think that some people would find the gleeful servant of a demonic lord to be a degenerate? For real?? If so, just say that.

(*) By now, I think that I'll try to fuck that bear out of two things that came at me:

- I'm playing a female human character. Can she do that without being smothered?

and

- Wait... Are we sure that the bear automatically agrees? Having your character getting eaten because you tried to rape a bear would be a scene for the ages...

Quote from: Psyckosama on August 05, 2023, 01:26:17 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 05, 2023, 01:17:45 PM
I still don't care, I don't even care if they want to put their disgustin paraphilias in a game, I'm pointing it out so others who agree with me about it being disgusting and that also find it goes against their principles to fund such degenerates can avoid doing so.

But for some that's beyond the pale, it's ME calling for banning the game, it's me creating a moral panic. Which means the Satanic Panic was only calling for people not to buy D&D and not burning the books and putting all sorts of false claims about the game.

I can point EXACTLY at the degeneracy in BG3 and have done so: Bestiality & Futas to cite the few we are shure are there. Yet NO ONE can produce a quote from me (here or elsewhere) calling for banning the book.

It's optional  content, don't like it, don't take that path.

We're not saying you're calling for it to be banned. We're saying you're bitching at nothing for its own sake.

You know, kind of like how SJWs do.

Pretty much.

I also saw Vee's and Arch's videos earlier today, and while the way they handle some of the options stinks of wokeness (e.g., sex is framed as a "body type", everyone gets a dick or vage, etc.) and I would've preferred more customization options, the fact of the matter is what most cRPGs (including earlier BG games) include even less customization than this one. So a lot of the claims about lack of customization in these videos seem to be exaggerated. Although I wonder if the skin color options are locked into the presets as well (they didn't cover that in the videos, so don't know), cuz that would be more limited than most games.

This is all moral panic, except it's the correct type of moral panic, cuz it's anti-woke, so it's OK. And no one's allowed to call it a "moral panic" cuz no one has explicitly called for a ban (...yet), but it is still "a widespread feeling of fear, often an irrational one, that some evil person or thing threatens the values, interests, or well-being of a community or society". Which is to say... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_panic#:~:text=A%20moral%20panic%20is%20a,of%20a%20community%20or%20society.

Quote from: Iskandyr on August 05, 2023, 01:57:44 PM
Lol @ the "in the privacy of their own bedroom" trope.

They always move the goalposts...the problem with LGBTQ degeneracy

EDIT: Luckily I realised that I was breaking the forum rules by posting about a political problerm in the wrong forum. Sorry about that.

Quote from: VisionStorm on August 05, 2023, 02:40:19 PM
Although I wonder if the skin color options are locked into the presets as well (they didn't cover that in the videos, so don't know)

In BG3 you can freely choose the skin color for your character. Some races have "suggestions" but you can override them. Same with eyes and hair.

Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 05, 2023, 01:45:33 PM
Except you're lying about that and, unlike Reckall and YOU I can prove it, while talking about me and those who (like me) are shinning a light in the degeneracy:

As far as I am concerned, you're not shining a light on degeneracy, you're standing proud and tall as a symbol of hypocrisy.

QuoteNow as for your (both you and Reckall's) "It's optional!". Let's postulate a few hypotheticals:

Oh boy, this gunna be gud...

QuoteGame exists and has OPTIONAL (and genuine) anti-semitic content, is your position that Jews should not shine a light on it and refuse to buy it?

Who's point of view is it from? Is it from the point of view of nazis? Because if so, it only makes sense.

I'm perfectly fine with that level of hate and bigotry... from the perspective of the badguys.

I mean... points at Wolfenstein

Quote
Game exists and has OPTIONAL (and genuine) CP, is your position that NO ONE should shine a light on it and refuse to buy it?

The difference between CP and Homosexuality is one has a victim, the other doesn't. Children are below the age of consent thus engaging in sexual congress with a child is rape.

Sexual relationships between two men of consenting age is their choice of action as two consenting adults and thus is not a crime against any one individual unless you're doing the mental gymnastics to claim they're raping each other.

CP has a victim. Teh gey does not unless you're going to try and argue society is the victim, in which case you're literally no better than the SJWs because that's the same sort of shit they pander.

Quote from: Psyckosama on August 05, 2023, 02:58:59 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 05, 2023, 01:45:33 PM
Except you're lying about that and, unlike Reckall and YOU I can prove it, while talking about me and those who (like me) are shinning a light in the degeneracy:

As far as I am concerned, you're not shining a light on degeneracy, you're standing proud and tall as a symbol of hypocrisy.

QuoteNow as for your (both you and Reckall's) "It's optional!". Let's postulate a few hypotheticals:

Oh boy, this gunna be gud...

QuoteGame exists and has OPTIONAL (and genuine) anti-semitic content, is your position that Jews should not shine a light on it and refuse to buy it?

Who's point of view is it from? Is it from the point of view of nazis? Because if so, it only makes sense.

I'm perfectly fine with that level of hate and bigotry... from the perspective of the badguys.

I mean... *points at Wolfenstein*

Quote
Game exists and has OPTIONAL (and genuine) CP, is your position that NO ONE should shine a light on it and refuse to buy it?

The difference between CP and Homosexuality is one has a victim, the other doesn't. Children are below the age of consent thus engaging in sexual congress with a child is rape.

Sexual relationships between two men of consenting age is their choice of action as two consenting adults and thus is not a crime against any one individual unless you're doing the mental gymnastics to claim they're raping each other.

CP has a victim. Teh gey does not unless you're going to try and argue society is the victim, in which case you're literally no better than the SJWs because that's the same sort of shit they pander.

Can you cite me going on about "Teh Gays!" tm? No, you can't. So it is YOU comparing those and not me.

Can you cite me saying ANYTHING about BG3 having victims ANYWHERE? No you can't because you pulled that out of your cunty ass too.

We're talking about YOU having the option to play a degenerate, an anti-semite (I didn't mention the nazis either, not the only anti-semites out there) or a fucking kiddie didler you disingenuous twatwaffle. But you know this and you dance around it because you're a lying twatwaffle.

So, you're the ONLY hypocritical "enlightened centrist tm" here (besides Reckall that is), since I don't have the time to waste arguing with the likes of you off to the ignore list you go to. Feel free to join in saying that me calling out your lying, cunty ass is me "lashing out tm" at you.

Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 05, 2023, 03:19:10 PM

Quote from: Psyckosama on August 05, 2023, 02:58:59 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 05, 2023, 01:45:33 PM
Except you're lying about that and, unlike Reckall and YOU I can prove it, while talking about me and those who (like me) are shinning a light in the degeneracy:

As far as I am concerned, you're not shining a light on degeneracy, you're standing proud and tall as a symbol of hypocrisy.

QuoteNow as for your (both you and Reckall's) "It's optional!". Let's postulate a few hypotheticals:

Oh boy, this gunna be gud...

QuoteGame exists and has OPTIONAL (and genuine) anti-semitic content, is your position that Jews should not shine a light on it and refuse to buy it?

Who's point of view is it from? Is it from the point of view of nazis? Because if so, it only makes sense.

I'm perfectly fine with that level of hate and bigotry... from the perspective of the badguys.

I mean... *points at Wolfenstein*

Quote
Game exists and has OPTIONAL (and genuine) CP, is your position that NO ONE should shine a light on it and refuse to buy it?

The difference between CP and Homosexuality is one has a victim, the other doesn't. Children are below the age of consent thus engaging in sexual congress with a child is rape.

Sexual relationships between two men of consenting age is their choice of action as two consenting adults and thus is not a crime against any one individual unless you're doing the mental gymnastics to claim they're raping each other.

CP has a victim. Teh gey does not unless you're going to try and argue society is the victim, in which case you're literally no better than the SJWs because that's the same sort of shit they pander.

Can you cite me going on about "Teh Gays!" tm? No, you can't. So it is YOU comparing those and not me.

Can you cite me saying ANYTHING about BG3 having victims ANYWHERE? No you can't because you pulled that out of your cunty ass too.

We're talking about YOU having the option to play a degenerate, an anti-semite (I didn't mention the nazis either, not the only anti-semites out there) or a fucking kiddie didler you disingenuous twatwaffle. But you know this and you dance around it because you're a lying twatwaffle.

So, you're the ONLY hypocritical "enlightened centrist tm" here (besides Reckall that is), since I don't have the time to waste arguing with the likes of you off to the ignore list you go to. Feel free to join in saying that me calling out your lying, cunty ass is me "lashing out tm" at you.

And now Geeky knows what means to be the woke in a room of sane people

Quote from: Reckall on August 05, 2023, 03:38:15 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 05, 2023, 03:19:10 PM

Quote from: Psyckosama on August 05, 2023, 02:58:59 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 05, 2023, 01:45:33 PM
Except you're lying about that and, unlike Reckall and YOU I can prove it, while talking about me and those who (like me) are shinning a light in the degeneracy:

As far as I am concerned, you're not shining a light on degeneracy, you're standing proud and tall as a symbol of hypocrisy.

QuoteNow as for your (both you and Reckall's) "It's optional!". Let's postulate a few hypotheticals:

Oh boy, this gunna be gud...

QuoteGame exists and has OPTIONAL (and genuine) anti-semitic content, is your position that Jews should not shine a light on it and refuse to buy it?

Who's point of view is it from? Is it from the point of view of nazis? Because if so, it only makes sense.

I'm perfectly fine with that level of hate and bigotry... from the perspective of the badguys.

I mean... *points at Wolfenstein*

Quote
Game exists and has OPTIONAL (and genuine) CP, is your position that NO ONE should shine a light on it and refuse to buy it?

The difference between CP and Homosexuality is one has a victim, the other doesn't. Children are below the age of consent thus engaging in sexual congress with a child is rape.

Sexual relationships between two men of consenting age is their choice of action as two consenting adults and thus is not a crime against any one individual unless you're doing the mental gymnastics to claim they're raping each other.

CP has a victim. Teh gey does not unless you're going to try and argue society is the victim, in which case you're literally no better than the SJWs because that's the same sort of shit they pander.

Can you cite me going on about "Teh Gays!" tm? No, you can't. So it is YOU comparing those and not me.

Can you cite me saying ANYTHING about BG3 having victims ANYWHERE? No you can't because you pulled that out of your cunty ass too.

We're talking about YOU having the option to play a degenerate, an anti-semite (I didn't mention the nazis either, not the only anti-semites out there) or a fucking kiddie didler you disingenuous twatwaffle. But you know this and you dance around it because you're a lying twatwaffle.

So, you're the ONLY hypocritical "enlightened centrist tm" here (besides Reckall that is), since I don't have the time to waste arguing with the likes of you off to the ignore list you go to. Feel free to join in saying that me calling out your lying, cunty ass is me "lashing out tm" at you.

And now Geeky knows what means to be the woke in a room of sane people

The woke are those who need to invent shit about others and to make false equivalences and to put words in other's mouths.

So it describes you, Psyckocunt and Chriscunt perfectly, but nice try. Now you can join the other lying cunts in the ignore list.

Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 05, 2023, 04:03:11 PM

Quote from: Reckall on August 05, 2023, 03:38:15 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 05, 2023, 03:19:10 PM

Quote from: Psyckosama on August 05, 2023, 02:58:59 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 05, 2023, 01:45:33 PM
Except you're lying about that and, unlike Reckall and YOU I can prove it, while talking about me and those who (like me) are shinning a light in the degeneracy:

As far as I am concerned, you're not shining a light on degeneracy, you're standing proud and tall as a symbol of hypocrisy.

QuoteNow as for your (both you and Reckall's) "It's optional!". Let's postulate a few hypotheticals:

Oh boy, this gunna be gud...

QuoteGame exists and has OPTIONAL (and genuine) anti-semitic content, is your position that Jews should not shine a light on it and refuse to buy it?

Who's point of view is it from? Is it from the point of view of nazis? Because if so, it only makes sense.

I'm perfectly fine with that level of hate and bigotry... from the perspective of the badguys.

I mean... *points at Wolfenstein*

Quote
Game exists and has OPTIONAL (and genuine) CP, is your position that NO ONE should shine a light on it and refuse to buy it?

The difference between CP and Homosexuality is one has a victim, the other doesn't. Children are below the age of consent thus engaging in sexual congress with a child is rape.

Sexual relationships between two men of consenting age is their choice of action as two consenting adults and thus is not a crime against any one individual unless you're doing the mental gymnastics to claim they're raping each other.

CP has a victim. Teh gey does not unless you're going to try and argue society is the victim, in which case you're literally no better than the SJWs because that's the same sort of shit they pander.

Can you cite me going on about "Teh Gays!" tm? No, you can't. So it is YOU comparing those and not me.

Can you cite me saying ANYTHING about BG3 having victims ANYWHERE? No you can't because you pulled that out of your cunty ass too.

We're talking about YOU having the option to play a degenerate, an anti-semite (I didn't mention the nazis either, not the only anti-semites out there) or a fucking kiddie didler you disingenuous twatwaffle. But you know this and you dance around it because you're a lying twatwaffle.

So, you're the ONLY hypocritical "enlightened centrist tm" here (besides Reckall that is), since I don't have the time to waste arguing with the likes of you off to the ignore list you go to. Feel free to join in saying that me calling out your lying, cunty ass is me "lashing out tm" at you.

And now Geeky knows what means to be the woke in a room of sane people

The woke are those who need to invent shit about others and to make false equivalences and to put words in other's mouths.

So it describes you, Psyckocunt and Chriscunt perfectly, but nice try. Now you can join the other lying cunts in the ignore list.

This reminds me of the two big questions left in my life:

Why a black actor can play a Elf in The Rings of Power but Ryan Gosling can't be Black Panther?

and

Why Geeky still hasn't denounced a Servant of Asmodeus gleefully doing evil in exchange for hellish favours as a degenerate?

Some things in this life are really cryptic.

Edit: Oh! And Geeky even BLOCKED ME! He is really into this new "woke full immersion" phase of his (their?) life