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Pundit hides again

Started by James McMurray, February 06, 2007, 02:06:14 PM

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James McMurray

Well, it looks like me telling him when I think he';s wrong has scared old Pundy away again. If he happens to answer any of my questions in the "American Mathematics" thread that seems to have thrown him overboard, could someone post them here?

I guess I shouldn't have challenged his superiority and knowledge of history. I won't give all the gory details here, but anyone interested can check that thread out in his forum.

Basically he misquoted Franklin (like most people on the internet do). I asked him if it was a misquote or if he knew more about it than I do and he started dodging the issue with who cares who wrote it. When told "it must be you, since you mentioned it he hid behind the forced ignore again.

However, if anyone looks at my posting lately and thinks I really have been hammering Pundit 1) unwarrantedly, 2) and not anyone else, and/or 3) without also partaking in the other threads this site has to offer, please let me know.

The man admits to paranoia, but that doesn't mean he couldn't be right this time. :)

RPGPundit

James has been at it yet again.. it seems to go in cycles with him. I don't know if they're menstrual, or tied to some kind of personal issue, but every couple of weeks he feels the need to start picking at my every word in some bizzare kind of deconstructionist alpha-male pissing-match.

Since he'd only gotten off the Forced ignore because he'd promised he'd control himself, and he clearly isn't capable of doing that (as I'd suspected), he's back on it.

And since he seemed so interested in it happening, he's also my pretty, pretty girl now.

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What's that? I can't see it. Care to come out from behind your curtain? :D

James McMurray

I see you've opted to finally play out your transgendered fantasies of me. Better watch out, your power trip is showing.

For a man that claims to have developed a wonderful self-policing internet utopia you seem to get awful upset at criticism and have stellarly failed to allow the group to police itself.

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Considering that you're the ONLY fucking dude I've ever felt obliged to take sanctions against for stalking (though Its become borderline with Nox in regard to Jimbob; only since the latter hasn't asked me about it...), I would say that community policing is doing incredibly well. The fact that you're a hardcase that doesn't know when to let go and can't help but challenge the "alphamale" in some misguided manhood test or whatever the fuck you're doing, that's your issue.

And now you're a girl, the beta male's biggest fear.

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James McMurray

What's that? You're still hiding. If you want to tell someone something, it generally pays not to be whispering from around a corner.

Just please, somebody tell me he's not jacking off to thoughts of me as a little girl.

One Horse Town

This is getting fucking boring. Pundit, perhaps trying to take criticism better would help. James, perhaps not dogging his footsteps everywhere would help you.

Too much "Pundit is wrong and a *insert expletive here*" and "no i speak the truth!" crap is moving from Pundits own sub-forum to other areas of the site. From my viewpoint i do think that some people are here largely to piss in Pundit's tea. On the other hand, perhaps he's reaping what he sows on his blog. Whatever, it's dull and repetitative. Maybe the Pundit's sub-forum should be the place for this kind of bitch-slapping?

James McMurray

That's where most of the recent stuff has occured. I'll point out that I'm not "dogging his steps" at least I don't think I am. I reply to pretty much everyone on this board, and I'm a hell of a lot ruder to people like Nox then I am of Pundit.

The problem as I see it with Pundit is that I don't just call him a fuckwad and move on. I actually tell him when and where he's wrong, and what his faults are. I point out when he says something that isn't true. Others who do the same thing don't get banned, blacklisted, hidden from, or whatever. Not because I'm evil, but because I piss him off the most.

He says he wants a community policed site, but can't just ignore people that give him shit and let the community handle it because it lets the power slip out of his "but I really don't want it" hands.

That's just my take on things, but I think his behavior in similar situations in the past supports it.

One Horse Town

Like i said, boring. Put your handbags away.

I admire Pundit's attempts to get discussions going in the main RPG forum. I think he works pretty hard to get things going here. He's let down by his need to rant, but hey, that's the persona he's chosen for himself. Some people take exception to it and endlessly take shots. He shoots back. Result is that decent threads are burried.

I like the potential of this place. I don't want it to be constant fights about the person who runs it...unless it's in his own forum. Fact is, i'm not entitled to anything here, but that's the way i'd prefer it.:)

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I'd prefer it that way too. But there's always guys out there to get the top dog, either for ideological reasons, or just because they want to prove they're a big man.

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James McMurray

Huh? What?

Why not start your own thread rather than hiding in plain sight in mine? Unless you enjoy flaunting your power perhaps? :lol:

Yes, we get it. You're the great and powerful Oz, and you like men in dresses. Now move along, I'm trying to have a conversation with the people on this site that aren't afraid to be seen.

David R

James, you made/scored points against the Pundit on that thread. You need not have dragged it on any further (although I admit, it is a fun thing to do). All this is really unnecessary.

Regards,
David R

Dominus Nox

So pundy puts james on a forced ignore list because james busts on him.

In turn I've asked for nme to be put on pundy's Il because I'm fucking sick of his busting on me.

I wonder if that'll happen.....
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Quote from: James McMurrayThe problem as I see it with Pundit is that I don't just call him a fuckwad and move on.
Yes, it is a problem. It makes you a boring poster. Our job here is to entertain and inform one another. By ragging on every little posts of RPGPundit's, you're failing dismally in that aim.

I mean, you're not ragging on him well. So he misquoted Franklin, who gives a shit? He quoted Franklin to say, "what this guy said, I believe, and that saying is relevant here." Whether it was a quote or misquote is irrelevant.

I mean, if I say, "It's good to roll dice and eat cheetos, as Gygax said," it doesn't really matter if Gygax said it or not. The point of discussion is whether it's good to roll to dice and eat cheetos. Whether it was me, you, Gygax or your Great Uncle Leo with the hairy earholes doesn't matter a damn. We're not discussing who said what, we're discussing whether what was said was good.

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Nisarg: "Hey James, JimBob says there's a big train coming. We'd better get off the tracks. Rev the engine and go."
James: "No, JimBob didn't say that, he said, shit, there's a train coming! That's completely different to what you said."
Nisarg: "Dude, whatever. Let's get off the tracks."
The train toots in the distance.
James: "I don't know why you always misquote these things. You really should be more accurate."
Nisarg: "Move the car, man! The fucking train is coming, I told you!"
toot! toot!"
James: "Accuracy is important. Will you acknowledge that you misquoted JimBob? We can't move on until you do."
toot! rumblerumbleRUMBLERUMBLETOOOT!
JimBob: "You guys are crazy. Move the fucking car, James!"
James: "It's important to quote properly, because -"
SLAM. The train takes up the car with the three.


It's important not to miss the fucking point, James. Time to wind your head in, contemplate for a while exactly what the fucking point is. I think we need a script to replace the "Submit Reply" button with, "Does this have anything to do with the fucking point?" Then there could be an "Are you sure?" pop-up, with the words, "Are you sure... you're not deliberately being a cocksmock?"

Don't be a cocksmock, James McMurray. Attack RPGPundit, sure - but stick to the point, and be relevant and interesting.

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It honestly never occurred to me. Dominus Nox popping up in threads to insult me only matters to me insofar as it might derail the thread. If everyone just ignores his crapping on the table and keeps chatting away, great! I only worry that it might turn an interesting discussion into a Nox vs Everyone flamefest.

In short, I don't mind being insulted, but I hate threadcrapping.

The thing he deserves to be bannzorzed for is threadcrapping, combined with vile racism. If he were an unbigoted guy who always posted interesting things on-topic, and at the same time took every opportunity to insult me, I would think him a fine and useful member of our little community. :D
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James McMurray

QuoteI mean, you're not ragging on him well. So he misquoted Franklin, who gives a shit? He quoted Franklin to say, "what this guy said, I believe, and that saying is relevant here." Whether it was a quote or misquote is irrelevant.

That would be true, if his quote and the actual words meant the same thing. But when you quote somebody as agreeing with you, especially someone as respected as Franklin, you should probably make sure he actually agrees with you. Especially if you're proud of being a history scholar.

Sure, anyone else I probably would have just said "dude, this is what he really said" but it was a person with a Master's Degree in history, so I asked for a source, assuming that he knew more about the subject than I did. At that point he went off on a rant about how name dropping doesn't matter, despite having just done it.

QuoteI mean, if I say, "It's good to roll dice and eat cheetos, as Gygax said," it doesn't really matter if Gygax said it or not.

I'll have to disagree with you on that. If you drop someone's name to try and lend some credibility to your claim, you should be sure you're not full of shit, even accidentally.

QuoteWe're not discussing who said what, we're discussing whether what was said was good.

Had he taken the time to actually look the quote up, he'd have seen that I was in fact saying that what he said was not good, at least not in the eyes of the historical figure whose weight he was throwing around. You're back and forth is mildly amusing, but immaterial, as it doesn't mirror the situation.

QuoteIf he were an unbigoted guy who always posted interesting things on-topic, and at the same time took every opportunity to insult me, I would think him a fine and useful member of our little community

So then if he were me? ;)