Quote from: Spike;260545The word "Stop" has a pretty clear definition in my book, Jimmy.

For the record, what he said was, "Thus the sensible thing to do is stop burning fossil fuels, and to bring our wants down somewhat closer to our needs - not a bare minimum sort of lifestyle, just heaps less wasteful." And that does say directly we need to "stop" burning fossil fuels, which we cannot do. On the other hand, the remainder of the statement is valid; perhaps we can look on balance and revise the statement: "Thus the sensible thing to do is slow our consumption of fossil fuels, and to bring our wants down somewhat closer to our needs - not a bare minimum sort of lifestyle, just heaps less wasteful." That is a statement I would agree with.

There's a movie. I didn't see it, I can't recall the name, if someone mentions it I could confirm it. I did see the trailer. Matt Damon is talking to some arab guy and says something along the lines of: "What do I think? I think a hundred years ago you guys were living in tents and cutting each other's heads off with swords, and in another hundred years when the oil is gone you'll be back to doing the same thing. So please...take my money." It was some movie about oil. But the quote stuck with me as nothing more than plain truth.

We've got too many people. We need to remove some people. I think the people who have already realized this have deliberately set up things to remove a lot of their less favorite people. Cue the least likely Conspiracy Theory you've heard of, and it's probably closer to the money than you'd like to think.

The main problem with losing all our resources is that it's going to happen in my lifetime, and it's going to happen when I'm no longer in the prime fighting condition, so my fate will largely be decided by younger, stronger, more vigorous, and vastly stupider people.

And if I try to "help the future along" by triggering events ahead of time, so I can get in on them while I can still pull my weight in a physical fight, I'll only end up making things worse. Which unfortunately means I'm stuck with letting things get worse on their own, inevitably, following a very long downward spiral.

Because the only engine of change is rage and necessity.
People will not volutarily give up anything unless they have no choice.
And people don't act on things they're merely vaguely dissatisfied with. They act on things they're outraged (or enraged) about. When they've been pushed past the point of talking, past the point of thinking, pushed to the point of action.

Too many people, not enough resources. And in advancing our medical knowledge and compassion and becoming more civilized, we've sown the seeds of our own destruction, as we've found cool new ways to keep alive people that nature would have taken out if we didn't interfere.

We're keeping around the criminals, the insane, the infirm.

Me? I'd have voted for LOGAN'S RUN. I'd dump everyone after 30.
Except then I'd quietly leave the Dome and be the old guy in Washington DC with a hundred cats. One hundred cats and no people getting in my way? Talk about my version of heaven.