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Starfinder release day. Whatcha think?

Started by Ratman_tf, August 18, 2017, 02:12:52 AM

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Ratman_tf

August 18, 2017, 02:12:52 AM
I don't have the cash to spend on it this week, but I did flip through it a few times at the store while playing X-Wing.

Anybody bought it and got an opinion? I noticed it had vehicle and starship sections. I didn't have time to dig into how fantasy technology and magic work.
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Dumarest

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August 18, 2017, 01:58:57 PM
Never seen Pathfinder or played it, but from what I understand it's D&D with a silly name, and while I'm not interested in elves and hobbits in Middle-earth, I'm even less interested in elves and hobbits in space. Let us know how you like it and why.

Steven Mitchell

#2
August 18, 2017, 02:11:28 PM
One of my least favorite systems, in one of my least favorite genres, by one of my least favorite companies.  I'd sooner sign up for the Kick Starter "Watching Paint Dry" by that Skarka dude, or whatever his name is.  Same money blown in the end, but less time wasted.

Molotov

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August 18, 2017, 02:14:06 PM Last Edit: August 18, 2017, 02:15:21 PM by Molotov
I picked it up. Just working my way though. I do like a nice looking book (and I like my DIY books as well). I'll say one of the things I did like was that the included standard races weren't Space elf, space dwarf, etc. I'm sure there may be a reskin factor to them, but at least it wasn't a straight adaption.

And, for those who do, the space elf, dwarf, gnome, etc are in the back of the book Appendix style.

Ratman_tf

#5
August 18, 2017, 05:10:13 PM
Quote from: Molotov;984978I picked it up. Just working my way though. I do like a nice looking book (and I like my DIY books as well). I'll say one of the things I did like was that the included standard races weren't Space elf, space dwarf, etc. I'm sure there may be a reskin factor to them, but at least it wasn't a straight adaption.

And, for those who do, the space elf, dwarf, gnome, etc are in the back of the book Appendix style.

Yeah. The magic and elves and stuff is very low key. If I didn't know beforehand, I would never have known that it was a space setting with magic and elves by flipping through the book.
It's like, it's set in the Pathfinder universe, but you have to dig to actually see it. I'm wondering how it would handle having the setting conceits (Golarion) pulled out.
The notion of an exclusionary and hostile RPG community is a fever dream of zealots who view all social dynamics through a narrow keyhole of structural oppression.
-Haffrung

Manic Modron

#6
August 18, 2017, 06:55:58 PM
I got really disillusioned with it really fast from the online talk.  I would up putting my shipment back in the mail unopened and nothing I've heard since has made me regret it.

Ulairi

#7
August 18, 2017, 07:07:29 PM
I am going to a local shop to look at it. White Star I think does everything I need but I like those cardboard pawns.

Shawn Merrow

#8
August 19, 2017, 01:25:01 AM
I just got back from playing Starfinder Society Scenario #1-00: Claim to Salvation and had a fun time. There is a steep learning curve for spaceship combat but should get easier with practice. There were multiple roles (captain, pilot, gunner, engineer and scientist) each had something they could do during combat. I was the engineer and kept the shields up. The regular combat went quickly but we were a bunch of level 4 pre-gens beating up a bunch of Space Goblins. I have not bought the book yet, so can not give a full breakdown of the rules. From what I have seen, I will be enjoying it.

Ratman_tf

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August 19, 2017, 01:27:25 AM
Quote from: Shawn Merrow;985117I just got back from playing Starfinder Society Scenario #1-00: Claim to Salvation and had a fun time. There is a steep learning curve for spaceship combat but should get easier with practice. There were multiple roles (captain, pilot, gunner, engineer and scientist) each had something they could do during combat. I was the engineer and kept the shields up. The regular combat went quickly but we were a bunch of level 4 pre-gens beating up a bunch of Space Goblins. I have not bought the book yet, so can not give a full breakdown of the rules. From what I have seen, I will be enjoying it.

Cool. I will have to check that out.
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jeff37923

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August 19, 2017, 01:51:04 AM Last Edit: August 19, 2017, 02:19:05 AM by jeff37923
I have to admit, when I want to do science fantasy space opera, I have d6 Star Wars to do it with. I don't have a lot of interest in Starfinder.

EDIT: This is ancillary to my post, but I find that as I get older I have less interest in playing games which are very time consuming with prep work. My tastes go for more simple systems because they take less time to prepare and play. Pathfinder, D&D 5e, and most other d20 games have just become too time consuming to keep my interest.
"Meh."

Biscuitician

#11
August 19, 2017, 05:16:16 AM
If i had fifty squids to spare I'd treat myself, but I'm shit sure the rules would displease me and the size of the book would be too much and the alien races look stupid.

I think i'd actually prefer Eldar, squats, orks - i mean space elves, space dwarves, and space orcs :D

Llew ap Hywel

#12
August 19, 2017, 05:34:49 AM
Quote from: jeff37923;985119I have to admit, when I want to do science fantasy space opera, I have d6 Star Wars to do it with. I don't have a lot of interest in Starfinder.

EDIT: This is ancillary to my post, but I find that as I get older I have less interest in playing games which are very time consuming with prep work. My tastes go for more simple systems because they take less time to prepare and play. Pathfinder, D&D 5e, and most other d20 games have just become too time consuming to keep my interest.

Do you have d6 Space and supplements? I found stripping out the Star Wars material really made it easy to customise my own settings.
Talk gaming or talk to someone else.

Llew ap Hywel

#13
August 19, 2017, 05:38:45 AM
For me this is just another excuse to start a splat line. The Paizo books are pretty but the entire 3e book production line was crazy and the mechanics of it all.

Book 1 - Core
Book 1,000,000 - character customisation options for that essential excelsior character building on the 999,999 character option books that have gone before.

I don't mind a few new rules to build a setting feel but 90% of the 3e line were just tack on with a veneer of fluff.
Talk gaming or talk to someone else.

Biscuitician

#14
August 19, 2017, 07:07:30 AM
Quote from: HorusArisen;985149For me this is just another excuse to start a splat line. The Paizo books are pretty but the entire 3e book production line was crazy and the mechanics of it all.

Book 1 - Core
Book 1,000,000 - character customisation options for that essential excelsior character building on the 999,999 character option books that have gone before.

I don't mind a few new rules to build a setting feel but 90% of the 3e line were just tack on with a veneer of fluff.

I doubt anyone's doubting that!

I wish some of these companies would find a better method. I've got a ton of books for Edge of the Empire that are never going to be used that I'm not carrying around just to play the game.
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