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Games that need a new edition

Started by vivsavage, August 13, 2017, 08:40:48 AM

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vivsavage

What RPGs do you wish would develop a new edition, whether because the current edition is unsatisfying or could use a revival?

finarvyn

Amber Diceless would be my #1 vote. Not a "sort of Amber" thing but the actual Zelazny universe and the actual Wujcik mechanic. Take the contents of ADRP and Shadow knight, blend it all together, and divide it up into a Player's book and a GM's book. Maybe take the Kucharski artwork and get it colorized to give the book more pop. Give it some product support like a new Trump deck, map of Castle Amber, map of the Amberverse, that kind of thing.
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Omega

NONE (Well probably none. Except for that one over there that needs it. But that doesnt count)

Just reprint whats allready there.

So sick of the edition treadmill and the five year plan.

Llew ap Hywel

The original Alternity. I'm sure that can be made into one book and just bring some stuff up to date.
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vivsavage

Quote from: HorusArisen;982568The original Alternity. I'm sure that can be made into one book and just bring some stuff up to date.
I haven't looked at the beta/alpha of the new version. Is it much different?

Ronin

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Llew ap Hywel

Quote from: vivsavage;982589I haven't looked at the beta/alpha of the new version. Is it much different?

Unnecessarily enough from what I saw.
Talk gaming or talk to someone else.

Dumarest

Quote from: vivsavage;982560What RPGs do you wish would develop a new edition, whether because the current edition is unsatisfying or could use a revival?

None, but there are many games I'd like to see back in print and widely available again.

Dumarest

Quote from: Omega;982565NONE (Well probably none. Except for that one over there that needs it. But that doesnt count)

Just reprint whats allready there.

So sick of the edition treadmill and the five year plan.

Fortunately I never got on that treadmill but I agree utterly and completely. The only games I ever bought more than one edition of were when I got 2nd edition AD&D (which I sold long ago), 2nd edition DC Heroes (which actually fixed and improved a few things), and 4th edition Pendragon (because I was curious about its allowing magic for PCs and it included material from many sourcebooks I never bought).

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Dumarest

Quote from: K Peterson;982670Call of Cthulhu. ;)

:p:p:p

Llew ap Hywel

Quote from: K Peterson;982670Call of Cthulhu. ;)

It's not finished till it's in double digits :cool:
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Bren

Quote from: Omega;982565NONE (Well probably none. Except for that one over there that needs it. But that doesnt count)

Just reprint whats allready there.

Quote from: Dumarest;982598None, but there are many games I'd like to see back in print and widely available again.
I also don't feel the need for new editions.

That said, new editions of most games don't bother me. The folks that work at game companies want to put food on the table or a new roof on their garage the same as the rest of us adults. I don't begrudge them their attempt at that. And if I own an older version, it doesn't stop working as just because a newer edition gets published. And some companies are able to publish new editions without totally overturning all their previous materials. Two companies that have done that well are West End Games and Chaosium. The three versions of Star Wars D6 are all good games and supplements and adventures written for one version are highly compatible with any other. For decades Chaosium's done the same thing for Call of Cthulhu with an extremely high degree of compatibility between supplements and adventures across multiple rule editions. Runequest and Pendragon also had pretty good compatibility across multiple editions.
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Dumarest

Bren, are you aware your link for D6 Star Wars goes to the bashrpg web site? Was it supposed to go to a blog or something?

Dumarest

Quote from: Bren;982811I also don't feel the need for new editions.

That said, new editions of most games don't bother me. The folks that work at game companies want to put food on the table or a new roof on their garage the same as the rest of us adults. I don't begrudge them their attempt at that. And if I own an older version, it doesn't stop working as just because a newer edition gets published. And some companies are able to publish new editions without totally overturning all their previous materials. Two companies that have done that well are West End Games and Chaosium. The three versions of Star Wars D6 are all good games and supplements and adventures written for one version are highly compatible with any other. For decades Chaosium's done the same thing for Call of Cthulhu with an extremely high degree of compatibility between supplements and adventures across multiple rule editions. Runequest and Pendragon also had pretty good compatibility across multiple editions.

Oh, sure, I dont care if they make a new edition, I just find 95% are needless revisions and seldom actually improvements like DC Heroes 2nd edition  where they even had designer notes explaining, "Well, this didn't work the way we intended and this was redundant so we fixed it this way and here's why ." I might argue that too many people think they can make a living writing RPGs, but that's their business, doesn't affect me at all. I mostly buy used old games I used to own or have always wanted to play; not much new stuff is to my taste or if it is, it's somewhere out there where I don't get exposed to it. I'd say that's half the reason I lurked on this forum for years before registering and posting anything, just to try to see what games were out in the wild and what peolle thought of them. Sometimes there is eveb a cogent, useful  discussion or review. Plus I can rip off stuff from your blog and Black Vulmea's blog for Flashing Blades.

Personally I think AD&D needed no new editions, but if people buy them, of course they'll keep putting out "improvements." Same with Traveller, Call of Cthulhu, etc.