Quote from: Warboss Squee;975697Eh, I like the show plenty, but the Empire might as well be the villains in a capt planet cartoon for the most part.

How is that any different from the films which were inspired by the likes of Captain Planet to begin with?

Quote from: Voros;975708How is that any different from the films which were inspired by the likes of Captain Planet to begin with?

The Empire from the movies trounced everybody that wasn't a named and major hero. The Empire from Rebels could and in fact have fucked up trying to secure a fruit stand.

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Rebels is ok, the kiddie character is not. But then i'm not the demographic.

I enjoyed Vader and Ahsoka.

Sabine is just annoying.

The droid is simply biding his time plotting to kill the rest of the crew, obviously

I'd swear Chopper has tried to kill Ezra at least twice, and the crew as a whole once.

Quote from: Dumarest;975678I think the Star Wars Rebels cartoon is the best thing they've made since Return of the Jedi. You could easily run games stealing plots from the show and the characters feel like a party of PCs. My only complaint would be the omnipresence of Force users at a time when they should be few and far between.

One of the main production voices in that is a WEG Star Wars RPG alumni, Pablo Hidalgo. That is why a lot of cool stuff from the RPG has survived and the episodes feel a lot like a group of PCs on an adventure.

As for Force Users, there are a lot, but they are also killed off during the show.

Quote from: jeff37923;975905One of the main production voices in that is a WEG Star Wars RPG alumni, Pablo Hidalgo. That is why a lot of cool stuff from the RPG has survived and the episodes feel a lot like a group of PCs on an adventure.

...and maybe that explains why Sabine is immune to all Stormtrooper fire, she's a WEG d6 Bounty Hunter who got that 7d6 Dodge?  

At least in Clone Wars, the Jedi Masters had to block droid fire with their lightsabers, the crew of the Ghost doesn't even need to dodge most of the time, the Stormtroopers just wildly miss, even when the crew is basically monologuing at them.

Quote from: Manic Modron;975672"Dawn of Rebellion" is not Clone Wars.  It is the galaxy pre-New Hope.  Star Wars Rebels & Rogue One type of stuff.

Looks like you're right. My enthusiasm just took a critical hit. I'll look before I buy. On the surface, this doesn't excite me at all.

"Fantasy Flight Games is proud to announce Dawn of Rebellion, a new sourcebook for the Star Wars™ Roleplaying Game line. Dawn of Rebellion is the first sourcebook of its kind, designed to be used alongside any of the three core roleplaying lines. Campaigns using Edge of the Empire™, Age of Rebellion™, or Force and Destiny™—or any combination of the same—will find a wealth of valuable information within its 144 pages. Primarily focusing on the years preceding the Battle of Yavin, Dawn of Rebellion features descriptions, context, and statistics for many of the iconic characters and vehicles appearing in the Star Wars: Rebels television show and in Rogue One: A Star Wars Story. The might of the Empire is at an unprecedented peak and a successful rebellion seems like a fever dream to all but the most optimistic. Even those who have no personal stake in the Galactic Civil War feel the tremendous impact of this new order."

Might be a good setup for a galaxy without a Skywalker game, or perhaps testing the waters for era sourcebooks to replace core books once genesys is released.

Likely.

I think it's an unfortunate choice. The entirety of New Hope Era ultimately is a cop-out to me. This is not to say you can't have awesome campaigns there. I think the events of the New Hope era (and I'd include this period too) it's so inextricably tied to Skywalker and his fucked up family, that it overshadows a lot of other possibilities that many take to be obvious.

Like being a Jedi. Sure the book assumes you can be a Jedi, but it also makes up some really limp excuses for it, or they ignore it altogether leaving it up to the GM (which normally I'm fine with) - the issue being that like being a Mage in a Middle-Earth campaign, it flies in the face of the larger context.

It's one of the reasons why I don't care about the prequel movies (including Rogue One, and I have no interest in the Han Solo movie etc). I'd much rather leave this era for something beyond the machinations of Palpatine and his weak legacy with the Skywalker boys and girls.

I'm not going to shit on the book, I'm sure there will be material that I can use, but I doubt the setting material will be of much use. But you know. It is what it is.

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Quote from: Justin Alexander;976280(Ironically the era is less appealing to me now that the Rebels cartoon and Rogue One exist as "canon" locking down the early days of the Rebellion, despite that being the reason we're getting this sourcebook.)

I felt that the show and the movie actually makes it easier to run Rebels in this era.  We see several different groups at play here before and after the Alliance with different philosophies and concerns.  Compare Mon Mothma to General Sato to Ahoska Tano to Saw Gerrara.  By the time New Hope come around the Alliance has consolidated most of the activity using Alderaan as a rallying cry and  you get tied up in the destiny of the movies.

If I were to start a game it'd likely be this period or else post-Endor (either right after and covering the war up to Jakku or else fast forwarding to the events of Bloodline and chronicling the rise of the Resistance).

Quote from: Justin Alexander;976280I'd have thought that's the advantage of the period between the Clone Wars and the Rebellion: Luke and Leia aren't on the scene yet. Anakin is largely side-lined and knocked off both the prophecy path and Palpatine's original plan by the volcano.

(Ironically the era is less appealing to me now that the Rebels cartoon and Rogue One exist as "canon" locking down the early days of the Rebellion, despite that being the reason we're getting this sourcebook.)

As you astutely pointed out - it's already locked down. That's the problem - the primary story-line is pretty narrow in scope. The whole galaxy largely turns on the activities of these few people that aren't your PC's by canon. Sure you could slip them in there... but you know.

That's why I like Old Republic. Nice and wide open. Tons of possibilities. Very little canon that matters. Plenty of options for Force Users, including a few that have nothing to do with Jedi or Sith, though they're not quite as developed, but who cares! It's the Old Republic - make it up. Doing that in the New Era seems snowflakely as hell.

Quote from: tenbones;976481As you astutely pointed out - it's already locked down. That's the problem - the primary story-line is pretty narrow in scope. The whole galaxy largely turns on the activities of these few people that aren't your PC's by canon. Sure you could slip them in there... but you know.

That's why I like Old Republic. Nice and wide open. Tons of possibilities. Very little canon that matters. Plenty of options for Force Users, including a few that have nothing to do with Jedi or Sith, though they're not quite as developed, but who cares! It's the Old Republic - make it up. Doing that in the New Era seems snowflakely as hell.

I've been working my way to doing a immediately post-Endor (RotJ) game where the Death Star II is destroyed with Luke, Vader, and Emperor aboard. Unfortunately, the Rebel fleet is savaged in the same battle and most if its leadership is now dead or captured (including all of those idiots in Solo's commando team that were down on the moon). Effectively, this continues the Galactic Civil War while wiping away the prominent NPCs to allow PCs to play key positions on either side of the conflict. Whether they take the reigns of rebuilding and leading the Rebel Alliance or if they want to be the successor(s) to Palpatine, the galaxy is there for them and in a form far more recognizable than the Old Republic would be for those that have not played the video games.

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