Quote from: Doc Sammy;867559I've always wanted to get into OD&D and the OSR stuff personally, and I am a millennial who was born in 1993, so I wasn't around for the Good Old Days. But I do find the early RPG's to be fascinating.

Today is the Good Old Days. Tomorrow can be too. We all missed the early years of chess and poker, but they plan just fine today. Same with OD&D (or whatever clone you prefer).

All that matters is getting a good group, good food and tossing dice and having a great time.

Here's what I know from hard won experience:
It was great fun playing OD&D in 1978.
It is great fun playing OD&D in 2015.
It will be great fun playing OD&D in 2069.

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;867586MY PEE HOLE!  CAN YOU TONGUE IT, MOTHERFUCKER?

One of these days somebody's gonna take you up on that!!

Crimhthan probably just has his dates wrong. That happens to you old guys!

Quote from: Spinachcat;867601Crimhthan probably just has his dates wrong. That happens to you old guys!

By his own reckoning he is 78 years old so technically his senility isn't even early.

Quote from: Bren;867607By his own reckoning he is 78 years old so technically his senility isn't even early.

He has been playing D&D since before there was even D&D.

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;867586Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.

OD&D was not published 44 years ago, oh lying sack of shit.

MY PEE HOLE!  CAN YOU TONGUE IT, MOTHERFUCKER?

We started a Fantasy Campaign based on the fantasy section of Chainmail in April of '71 and then converted it to OD&D when OD&D came out. So yes our campaign is 44 years old as of last April. I don't know who you are you foul-mouthed jerk, but I would bet this 78 year old man could still whup you!

Quote from: Bren;867607By his own reckoning he is 78 years old so technically his senility isn't even early.

Quote from: Chainsaw;867613He has been playing D&D since before there was even D&D.

Go back and read what I posted, I did not say I had been playing OD&D for 44 years, I said my campaign was 44 years old, which is the case, 3 years using the Fantasy Rules out of Chainmail and 41 years using OD&D.

My wife does accuse me of being senile from time to time.

My word. I think I'll stay out of this one, if folks wouldn't mind. It's me birthday, today, and I have a chocolate cake to murder...

Quote from: chirine ba kal;867617My word. I think I'll stay out of this one, if folks wouldn't mind. It's me birthday, today, and I have a chocolate cake to murder...

Happy Birthday!

Quote from: Crimhthan;867616Go back and read what I posted, I did not say I had been playing OD&D for 44 years, I said my campaign was 44 years old, which is the case, 3 years using the Fantasy Rules out of Chainmail and 41 years using OD&D.

Ahhh, totally misunderstood. Yeah, that's much more believable then. Thanks for clarifying.

While I am at it let me post this:

Over on the Troll Lords forums a poster by the name of Sieg has this is in his signature

    Always remember, as a first principle of all D&D: playing BtB is not now, never was and never will be old school.- Tim Kask, Dragonsfoot

Great quote, just one problem, Tim Kask did not say that, I did.


Go to the Q&A with Tim Kask page 2 and scroll down to my first post in that thread dated Wed May 02, 2007 6:43 am

and read down the page from there to a post by Tim Kask (kaskoid) *24th post on that page) where he reply to me is his 3rd reply in that post on Wed May 02, 2007 8:57 pm. Towards the end of that post he quotes me and reply's:


    Forty-eight years of marriage and we were playmates as babies.

    Mein Gott! You must be older than dirt... And I thought I was one of the senior old fogies in gaming...

 My words above are in Italic and his are not.


Then he quotes my signature on DF and posts his agreement with it as follows again I am putting my words in Italic and his are not:


    Quote:

    Always remember, as a first principle of all D&D: playing BtB is not now, never was and never will be old school. Old school D&D involves house rules and at least some flying by the seat of the pants, making it up as you go.

    Rules lawyers have missed the heart and soul of old school D&D.

    Tim Kask replied: Truer words were never spake.

My reply to Tim in that thread was this:

My birth year is 1937 and I turned 70 in April, my wife says I am older than dirt. :wink: Being a wise husband I never remind her that we are the same age. :lol: I doubt that I qualify as one of the senior old fogies in gaming since I was not close to the source up in Lake Geneva. But being a senior old fogy, I will own to that, senior moments and all. We started our Chainmail Fantasy campaign in April of 1971 and in February 1974 converted it to Dungeons & Dragons.


Sieg was also posting in that DF thread, but I am not sure why he misattributed the quote, but if anyone is currently a member of DF and/or Troll Lords and knows Sieg please bring it to his attention. Please note that I do not think it was deliberate.

Here are the quotes by me from my signature preserved in amber as it were at DF.

Always remember, as a first principle of all D&D: playing BtB is not now, never was and never will be old school.

Rules lawyers have missed the heart and soul of old school D&D.

Munchkins are not there to have fun, munchkins are there to make sure no one else does.

Nothing is more dishonorable, than being a min-maxer munchkin rules lawyer.

OD&D game #3000 will be the 5th, 6th and 7th of September 2008.

Quote from: Chainsaw;867621Ahhh, totally misunderstood. Yeah, that's much more believable then. Thanks for clarifying.

Yeah, see my post with this info from DF back in 2007 before I was perma-banned by Steve the Admin there.

Quote from: chirine ba kal;867617My word. I think I'll stay out of this one, if folks wouldn't mind. It's me birthday, today, and I have a chocolate cake to murder...

Happy Birthday!

Quote from: Crimhthan;867616Go back and read what I posted, I did not say I had been playing OD&D for 44 years, I said my campaign was 44 years old, which is the case, 3 years using the Fantasy Rules out of Chainmail and 41 years using OD&D.

My wife does accuse me of being senile from time to time.

You failed to mention that you weren't using OD&D and since the thread in which you posted is about OD&D it was a pretty reasonable inference to make that you were saying you had played D&D for 45 years.

Now it would have been more polite for people to ask you what system you used, but if you wanted more polite you came to the wrong place to post.

Quote from: Crimhthan;867614We started a Fantasy Campaign based on the fantasy section of Chainmail in April of '71 and then converted it to OD&D when OD&D came out. So yes our campaign is 44 years old as of last April. I don't know who you are you foul-mouthed jerk, but I would bet this 78 year old man could still whup you!

Welcome to the board.

So what were pre OD&D days of your campaign like? After reading the various anecdotes, Playing at the World, Hawk & Moor, etc my impression that there a lot of variations between different groups in how they played so it would be interesting to hear how you managed things.

Quote from: Chainsaw;867621Ahhh, totally misunderstood. Yeah, that's much more believable then. Thanks for clarifying.

If you fucking believe that he predates Blackmoor, sure.

I, however, grew up in farm country.  I know bullshit when I see it.

Quote from: estar;867649Welcome to the board.

So what were pre OD&D days of your campaign like? After reading the various anecdotes, Playing at the World, Hawk & Moor, etc my impression that there a lot of variations between different groups in how they played so it would be interesting to hear how you managed things.

He's a fucking lying sack of shit.

And my name is Michael Mornard, one of Gary Gygax' original players, the only person to have a long running character in both Greyhawk and Blackmoor, the person who got Dave Sutherland hired by TSR, and the person who introduced M.A.R. Barker to D&D.

And if you don't believe it, ask Rob Kuntz, Ernie Gygyax, Tim Kask, Jim Ward, Greg Swenson, or Bill Hoyt, ALL of whom are active online.

And I repeat, Crimhtan, I publicly call you a lying sack of shit.