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This games' cover makes me feel funny...

Started by Nexus, November 17, 2015, 07:27:14 PM

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#15
November 18, 2015, 01:50:07 AM
Quote from: Simlasa;865030That Dragonquest guy's boobs are kinda titillating...

Stop Objectifying him with your male gaze.
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The Butcher

#16
November 18, 2015, 06:38:12 AM
Quote from: Simlasa;865030That Dragonquest guy's boobs are kinda titillating...

Pundit's wrong; Dragonquest, not AoI, is the first RPG to have a trans character on the cover. Hope that lady's getting her yearly mammograms.

Bren

#17
November 18, 2015, 09:21:23 AM
Quote from: Phillip;865028Of the original AD&D covers, the MM was very far from Dave Sutherland at his best
I recall being a little uncomfortable with covers like this back in the day. Probably because I wasn't 8-12 years old.
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Tod13

#18
November 18, 2015, 10:09:02 AM
Does anybody remember that Boris Vellejo and Frank Frazetta were doing book covers at this time that makes everything on this page look tame?

Omega

#19
November 18, 2015, 10:13:54 AM
The cover of TOON! makes me feel funny. :rotfl:

This has been going on since before RPGs. It doesnt matter what it is. Someone can and will be offended by it. And Murphys Law is proven to be real because sure enough that one nut case on the face of the earth is sitting right next to you on the bus that one day you have your whatever with you.

Phillip

#20
November 18, 2015, 10:17:19 AM
Frazetta did good stuff. With Vallejo on the cover, I'd pass it up. I don't think I ever owned anything Boris illustrated.

A usual paperback novel size cover doesn't stand out as much as a full book size.
And we are here as on a darkling plain  ~ Swept with confused alarms of struggle and flight, ~ Where ignorant armies clash by night.

Tod13

#21
November 18, 2015, 10:47:39 AM
Quote from: Phillip;865076Frazetta did good stuff. With Vallejo on the cover, I'd pass it up. I don't think I ever owned anything Boris illustrated.

A usual paperback novel size cover doesn't stand out as much as a full book size.

If you bought the paperback printings of Edgar Rice Burroughs Barsoom books in the 70s or 80s, they had Vallejo on the cover.

arminius

#22
November 18, 2015, 01:18:23 PM
I've got no problem with any of those covers; maybe I would feel a bit silly reading the MM on the subway, but not ashamed.

If anyone isn't familiar with the AP d20 books, look here under linked items: http://rpggeek.com/rpgpublisher/142/avalanche-press-ltd

There are exceptions but most are awful in my eyes. Funny thing is that AP is a reasonably reputable, serious historical wargame publisher. The covers make out that they're pandering to their own worst notions of the RPG market. Again not so much for the T&A as the bad art using T&A as a crutch.

kosmos1214

#23
November 18, 2015, 06:13:54 PM
Quote from: JamesV;864988I guess you could chalk it up to prudishness. At the same time, I can't think of any of my books, and like a good geek I have dozens, having a cover approaching Harlequin-Romance levels of sexy. A little weird, maybe even a hint of action movie violence, but not really sexy.

I guess the closest book in my collection to anything racy would be RIFTS core? That's girls with guns in one-piece bathing suits.
honestly i think prudishness is on the rise iv gotten stink eyes for reading gunslinger girl in public and spice and wolf

ps also when i read otaku usa in public
Quote from: Necrozius;865000While it's true that some RPG covers in the past (like, approx. 10 years ago at least) were sleazy or tacky, I find it weird that some people in the community were recently complaining that they were embarrassed to go up to the counter to buy them... I mean, think about it: odds are you'd only be able to get these books at the dorkiest of comic or gaming shops. Hell, the guys in the same lineup were probably holding Heavy Metal magazine or those weird anime toys of mostly naked cartoon women. I doubt that bus loads of soccer moms, children and Social Studies college kids would've been gawking in horror.

In another forum complaining about this subject (as if it were still a rampant epidemic and a major deterrent to new or diverse gamers), I argued that it wasn't an issue in mainstream RPGs. You know, the ones that newcomers usually dive into. I even browsed through the top 100 RPGs on Amazon and RPG.net and literally NONE of them had naughty or lewd covers. I even showed them the links but I was told that I was denying other people's experiences. GROAN.

Sometimes I think that people on the internet are just tripping over each other in a race to see who can appear as the most socially conscious and upset whistleblower. "Look at me! Look at how offended I am!"

what wrong with heavy metal mag and some of us and are sisters buy those "weird anime toys" and what the top 100 bought rpgs on amazon/rpg.net has relatively little with what kind of stink eye you get out of some people i once got it for reading the freeking 3.5 dmg  im still trying to figure that one out

Nexus

#24
November 18, 2015, 07:39:38 PM
Quote from: Necrozius;865000Sometimes I think that people on the internet are just tripping over each other in a race to see who can appear as the most socially conscious and upset whistleblower. "Look at me! Look at how offended I am!"

I'm pretty sure that is what's going on. Some people just look for reasons to get offended. Social Justice Bingo or something.
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

kosmos1214

#25
November 18, 2015, 07:47:52 PM
Quote from: Nexus;865156I'm pretty sure that is what's going on. Some people just look for reasons to get offended. Social Justice Bingo or something.

sounds accurate

Phillip

#26
November 20, 2015, 02:16:39 PM
Quote from: Tod13;865081If you bought the paperback printings of Edgar Rice Burroughs Barsoom books in the 70s or 80s, they had Vallejo on the cover.

The set I got has Michael Whelan covers.
And we are here as on a darkling plain  ~ Swept with confused alarms of struggle and flight, ~ Where ignorant armies clash by night.

Omega

#27
November 20, 2015, 02:25:27 PM
Quote from: Phillip;865446The set I got has Michael Whelan covers.

Same here. For me those were the defining Barsoom look.

Phillip

#28
November 20, 2015, 02:47:04 PM
I felt so much better when the magazine Asian Trash Cinema changed its name to Asian Cult Cinema. Now onlookers might think it's about Unification Church propaganda rather than "Teenage Hooker Becomes a Killing Machine".
And we are here as on a darkling plain  ~ Swept with confused alarms of struggle and flight, ~ Where ignorant armies clash by night.

Simlasa

#29
November 20, 2015, 03:50:52 PM Last Edit: November 20, 2015, 03:55:41 PM by Simlasa
Quote from: Omega;865448Same here. For me those were the defining Barsoom look.
I like those covers but my first intro were the old d'Achille ones
http://www.tarzan.org/art/dachille.jpg
... which had a flavor that reminded me of Star Trek, Bonanza and The Wild Wild West. So my mental image of the place was always quite warm and dusty... with just a bit of Spaghetti Western (not sure why I feel that fits).

I've never been all that worried about the image on the front of a book... but there was a time where I was loathe to be seen with anything having 'Dungeons & Dragons' emblazoned on the cover... because for a lot of folks it pretty much equates to man-child.
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