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Heroquest Glorantha or RuneQuest, 6th Edition?

Started by HMWHC, August 19, 2015, 09:15:25 PM

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crkrueger

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Quote from: Kaiu Keiichi;851252Actually, incorrect. We in Glorantha fandom simply do not care. Also, unlike the Nibovian wife, Broos are enemies of the universe who are to be universally destroyed. They're enemy monsters, things of chaos, who all right thinking people will kill and will burn the bodies (indeed, that's standard procedure when dealing with Broos.) It's like saying there shouldn't be demons in D&D.

Also, RQ has been the system of Glorantha since the beginning, 1979 (RQ1). Do your research and get your facts straight.

Glorantha fandom has been quite visible on Tumblr for some time now.

Your fantasies of being persecuted by SJWs are somewhat misplaced, at least as far as Glorantha fandom are concerned.

Facts? RQ3 and RQ6 otherwise known as the current version aren't set in Glorantha.

But, there's a reason I used the word Inquisition, and it didn't have anything to do with the actual logic behind anything Glorantha.  The only fact that matters is Broo=Rape, let the circus begin.  Glorantha's been around a long time, it's tied through HeroQuest to the names of the Right People, like Laws, so it might slip under the radar, who knows.  Keep clicking your heels and thinking good thoughts Porky, it might slide by.  It might not.  Nobody expects the Inquisition.
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Kaiu Keiichi

Quote from: CRKrueger;851261Facts? RQ3 and RQ6 otherwise known as the current version aren't set in Glorantha.

But, there's a reason I used the word Inquisition, and it didn't have anything to do with the actual logic behind anything Glorantha.  The only fact that matters is Broo=Rape, let the circus begin.  Glorantha's been around a long time, it's tied through HeroQuest to the names of the Right People, like Laws, so it might slip under the radar, who knows.  Keep clicking your heels and thinking good thoughts Porky, it might slide by.  It might not.  Nobody expects the Inquisition.

You obviously do, you brought them up in your fevered desire to be persecuted!

Actually, yes it is. Read the rules and look at the runes, which are explicitly Gloranthan. Ask any gamer who has been in the hobby for longer than 5 years and who knows about Glorantha, and they'll say "RuneQuest", after they say, "the game with the Ducks."

Obviously, you do! I'll wait for your links from offended SJWs. We here in Glorantha fandom won't. Also, look in the back of your RQ3 book for the big fucking Glorantha chapter, and talk to nearly anyone who played RQ3 back in the day. While you were playing Forgotten Realms, we were playing Glorantha. Also, look at most of the RQ3 product released by Avalon Hill. RQ=Glorantha, Glorantha=RQ, as far as fandom is concerned. Go over to BRP central and see them freak the fuck out when Stafford announced that Moon Design was merging back into Chaosium and that Adventures In Glorantha was going to be published in house. Runequest has *always* been Glorantha.

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Simlasa

#47
Quote from: Kaiu Keiichi;851251Since now Moon Design is under the ownership of Chaosium...
Really? That was not my understanding.


Quote from: Kaiu Keiichi;851274Runequest has *always* been Glorantha.
Really? Where is the Glorantha section in RQ6? My book seems to be missing it... all it talks about as a setting is this 'Meeros' place... is that area part of Glorantha?

soltakss

Quote from: Kaiu Keiichi;851252Actually, incorrect. We in Glorantha fandom simply do not care. Also, unlike the Nibovian wife, Broos are enemies of the universe who are to be universally destroyed. They're enemy monsters, things of chaos, who all right thinking people will kill and will burn the bodies (indeed, that's standard procedure when dealing with Broos.) It's like saying there shouldn't be demons in D&D.

True, in general people who play in Glorantha either don't mind broo behaviour don't describe bro behaviour or play broos as disease-ridden killers and leave the unsavoury bits behind.

Quote from: Kaiu Keiichi;851252Also, RQ has been the system of Glorantha since the beginning, 1979 (RQ1). Do your research and get your facts straight.

Well, RQ3 had a default setting of Alternate Earth as well as a Gloranthan setting. RQ6 has not produced any Gloranthan material, so uses non-Gloranthan settings.

Mongoose's RQs used Second Age Glorantha with varied success. RQ2 was all Glorantha, with a bit of Questworld, the new RuneQuest will be Glorantha again.

It is complex.

Quote from: Kaiu Keiichi;851252Your fantasies of being persecuted by SJWs are somewhat misplaced, at least as far as Glorantha fandom are concerned.

I've never been persecuted by anyone and have been playing in Glorantha for an awfully long time.
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soltakss

Quote from: Kaiu Keiichi;851274Runequest has *always* been Glorantha.

I know a lot of people who play RuneQuest and wouldn't touch Glorantha with a bargepole.
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Simlasa

Quote from: soltakss;851312I know a lot of people who play RuneQuest and wouldn't touch Glorantha with a bargepole.
I loved RQ2 but That didn't carry over to the setting, I'm not sure why.

Baulderstone

Quote from: Kaiu Keiichi;851252It's like saying there shouldn't be demons in D&D.

Thankfully, nobody has ever even considered removing demons from D&D. ;)

Quote from: CRKrueger;851250Yet. RQ hasn't been tied to Glorantha for so long that there was nothing to pop up on Awfulpurple or Tumblr's radar.  Wanna bet the Broo stays viewed as a Roper?  I'm betting it becomes more of a Nibovian Wife.

The practical difference between an actual SJW coming into this thread and being offended by broos and you coming into this thread to get hysterical about the idea that SJW might be offended by broos is nil.

Seriously, what is your goal here? I can think of dozens of things in RPG books within reach that are "problematic". I could make a list and post them online asking why the outrage patrol is isn't going after them. I don't, because it seems the outcome would either be complete indifference, or my list helps light some outrage torches.

Simlasa

Not being much of a Glorantha fan I've gone decades without knowing much about what the Broo were up to... just seeing them as foul and stinky beastmen, carriers of disease. I did, however, always assume the Chaos forces in Warhammer were probably a bit rapey.

Bren

Quote from: Simlasa;851358Not being much of a Glorantha fan I've gone decades without knowing much about what the Broo were up to... just seeing them as foul and stinky beastmen, carriers of disease. I did, however, always assume the Chaos forces in Warhammer were probably a bit rapey.
Broos are more than a bit rapey.
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Beagle

Quote from: Bren;851446Broos are more than a bit rapey.

Actually, as far as I know, the depictions of Broos has changed slightly. They are more about raping/infecting livestock than actual people, and in the more recent description of them, this is explicitly mentioned.
Nonetheless, I have always considered Broos to be like the least 'problematic' humanoids that mostly exist to be killed by player characters. With their deliberate engagement in biological warfare, their very alien culture and a reproduction cycle that is effectively based on viruses, they are so strictly separated from any actual living being (and sufficiently evil), that they clearly lack any analogue and solely exists as a fictional element in a fictional universe.

Simlasa

Quote from: Bren;851446Broos are more than a bit rapey.
Apparently, that's what's been dawning on me.

Bren

And diseases, Broo tend to be a major disease vector...and the Chaos, lot of that too.
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Chivalric

I actually like that Broos can impregnate any animal (or at least mammals).  It makes them a threat to a community's survival in more ways than one.  They'll put disease in your wells, destroy your livestock in order to reproduce and then hunt your survivors down one by one as a pack.

Simlasa

Quote from: NathanIW;851659I actually like that Broos can impregnate any animal (or at least mammals).
That IS a nasty detail... kind of like the creature from Alien.
Where is that written? Somehow I either glossed over it or never owned whatever Glorantha sourcebook spells it out.

richaje

Quote from: NathanIW;851659I actually like that Broos can impregnate any animal (or at least mammals).  It makes them a threat to a community's survival in more ways than one.  They'll put disease in your wells, destroy your livestock in order to reproduce and then hunt your survivors down one by one as a pack.

More than just any mammal - any animal. Regardless of gender (males raped by broo end up being impregnated by them). And there's stories that the Chaotic fecundity of broo can even corrupt stone or plants. Broos corrupt and pervert life through rape and disease. They are simply horrific abominations - their existence is a big part of the reason why the Storm Bull cult is beloved in many areas.
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