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Some game companies suck

Started by TheShadow, June 12, 2015, 12:04:49 AM

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Orphan81

I don't know if there are any specific game companies I think just "suck" per say.... (Well Adamant Entertainment, but it's unfair of me to say so, as I've never bought anything from them, just based off my personal experiences with Garatha Skara)

But I do have to say I think many of the writers in the industry suck because of their personal conduct.

Mainly those who have drank the SJW kool-aid.... Which is a shame, because I probably agree with them on 95% of their personal politics...

But then again, it's the Heretics who are more despised than the Heathens. The majority of conservative and right wing gamers and designers don't tend to have a personal problem with those who disagree with their politics..

But god damn..you question identity politics with your fellow Liberals, next thing you know they're dragging you to a stake to burn you as a witch.

I still even like some of the products these individuals put out, I just think they're really shitty people in the end.
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Baulderstone

Quote from: Orphan81;839455I don't know if there are any specific game companies I think just "suck" per say.... (Well Adamant Entertainment, but it's unfair of me to say so, as I've never bought anything from them, just based off my personal experiences with Garatha Skara)

Adamant has actually made some really nice products over the years, which makes the whole thing even more unfortunate.

TheShadow

Quote from: Orphan81;839455But then again, it's the Heretics who are more despised than the Heathens. The majority of conservative and right wing gamers and designers don't tend to have a personal problem with those who disagree with their politics..

But god damn..you question identity politics with your fellow Liberals, next thing you know they're dragging you to a stake to burn you as a witch.


That's why the right loses, every time. Because they are happy to discuss opinions and beliefs, then invite their opponents to a BBQ. At which time the leftists proceed to stab them and cook them for dinner.
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Baulderstone

Quote from: The_Shadow;839498That's why the right loses, every time. Because they are happy to discuss opinions and beliefs, then invite their opponents to a BBQ. At which time the leftists proceed to stab them and cook them for dinner.

Yep, It's like when Christie worked with Obama after Sandy and nobody on the right ever had a bad thing to say about it or continued to hold it against him to this day.

There's plenty of partisan assholery to go around on both sides, so let's not turn a pleasant thread about ripping on game companies into a political debate.

Armchair Gamer

Quote from: Orphan81;839455The majority of conservative and right wing gamers and designers don't tend to have a personal problem with those who disagree with their politics..

   Which companies and designers are openly conservative or libertarian? Steve Long, Sandy Petersen, "Lizard" and possibly Ken Hite are the only ones who come to mind immediately, and the closest I've seen to a company as a whole taking such a stand is Troll Lord Games' open support for the US military and allies.

   By contrast, Wizards of the Coast's D&D department, White Wolf, Paizo, Green Ronin, and Evil Hat all seem to be fairly vocally left-wing. (D&D's official Facebook feed changed their avatar to a couatl miniature on the day Obergefell was proclaimed, although they changed it back a day later.)

Paraguybrarian

Quote from: Orphan81;839455Mainly those who have drank the SJW kool-aid.... Which is a shame, because I probably agree with them on 95% of their personal politics...

Same here, but every time I see a reaction from either grouping, I think of part of the Revenge of the Sith crawl: "There are heroes on both sides. Evil is everywhere."

I don't buy from Evil Hat, though. The suppression of the Gamer Gate card game is on them alone. Also they provide a publishing outlet to Lorraine Williams' Office's own Shannon Appelcline.

I also don't buy from GMS, but who really does anymore?

I do buy from Green Ronin occasionally, but Nicole Lindroos really needs to stop flogging the dead horse of True20. Someone used the OGL as written (to make a true20 SRD) and she still whines about it to this day. You guys already killed the line, and it's been a decade now, so give it a fucking rest.

Chaosium, I had issues with in the past, but my recent experiences with them have been good.

I've had excellent customer service from Monte Cook Games and Pinnacle. I'm cheerfully broke because of them.

Paraguybrarian

Quote from: Armchair Gamer;839523Which companies and designers are openly conservative or libertarian? Steve Long, Sandy Petersen, "Lizard" and possibly Ken Hite are the only ones who come to mind immediately, and the closest I've seen to a company as a whole taking such a stand is Troll Lord Games' open support for the US military and allies.

I'm fairly certain that Flying Buffalo's Rick Loomis is more conservative than most, though a number (perhaps most) of the people he works with are left-centre.

Pinnacle has been supportive of the US Military, but otherwise have kept their politics very close to their chest (which is the wisest move designers can make).

RPGPundit

Quote from: Armchair Gamer;839523Which companies and designers are openly conservative or libertarian? Steve Long, Sandy Petersen, "Lizard" and possibly Ken Hite are the only ones who come to mind immediately, and the closest I've seen to a company as a whole taking such a stand is Troll Lord Games' open support for the US military and allies.

   By contrast, Wizards of the Coast's D&D department, White Wolf, Paizo, Green Ronin, and Evil Hat all seem to be fairly vocally left-wing. (D&D's official Facebook feed changed their avatar to a couatl miniature on the day Obergefell was proclaimed, although they changed it back a day later.)

James Raggi is certainly socially libertarian, though I couldn't say as far as his economics.
Alexander Macris is a pretty big deal in conservative/libertarian circles, though he doesn't really put much of it into his games.

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