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[L&L] Here comes the PHB: Backgrounds

Started by Raven, August 04, 2014, 01:24:34 AM

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Bill

#15
August 04, 2014, 08:25:27 AM
Quote from: Marleycat;775465Heh, ancient Gold Dragon. Seriously he's right backgrounds are great for both DM's and players.

All kidding aside, a Gold dragon would be a great background.

In 1E gold dragons were able to take human form, and I can see a bloodline thing going on there.

In this case, the 'Ancient' might mean a few drops of blood from an ancestor.

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#16
August 04, 2014, 08:34:40 AM
Quote from: Bill;775535All kidding aside, a Gold dragon would be a great background.

In 1E gold dragons were able to take human form, and I can see a bloodline thing going on there.
I think that's still canon in 5E... or at least, if there was a period when metallic dragons couldn't take on mundane forms to go about incognito, I'm not aware of it.
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#17
August 04, 2014, 08:41:04 AM
Quote from: Warthur;775537I think that's still canon in 5E... or at least, if there was a period when metallic dragons couldn't take on mundane forms to go about incognito, I'm not aware of it.

I want a Paladin with THE PLATINUM DRAGON background.



Seriously.

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#18
August 04, 2014, 08:43:27 AM
Quote from: Bill;775540I want a Paladin with THE PLATINUM DRAGON background.



Seriously.

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#19
August 04, 2014, 08:43:38 AM
I like the Hermit background, and might just create say a Fighter or Ranger with that background, as some kind of semi-mystical wilderness dude. It'd also rock for more or less Biblical-esque Clerics and Paladins.

Bill

#20
August 04, 2014, 08:53:08 AM
Quote from: flyerfan1991;775541"Roooooaar!"

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I would get some pet canaries and scare the living hell out of people.

Will

#21
August 04, 2014, 09:04:36 AM
As someone who experimented with Noble being a class, a feat, a PrC, or 'I guess orator bard?', I'm happy to see it nestled firmly in a broader mechanic in 5e.
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#22
August 04, 2014, 09:13:23 AM
Quote from: jibbajibba;775496Still reckon Barbarian should be a background though.

Yes, yes, yes a million times yes! But is it? No, no, no a million times no, because evidently lightly-armored rage needs an entire class to support it.
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#23
August 04, 2014, 09:21:11 AM
Consideration:
Rename Barbarians Berserkers.

Add a Barbarian Background.


(Also, generally, allow tweaks of starting skills to reflect different origins)
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August 04, 2014, 09:26:48 AM Last Edit: August 04, 2014, 09:33:00 AM by Marleycat
Quote from: jibbajibba;775496Agreed.

I can see backgrounds as a major setting feature.
Hopefully they will replace new classes as the standard background motif for PCs.

Still reckon Barbarian should be a background though.

Subclass you mean. Right?
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#25
August 04, 2014, 10:09:58 AM
Quote from: Marleycat;775560Subclass you mean. Right?

Nope background.

A barbarian is a warrior from a "primitive" society.

A good test for any subclass or class is to say if I took the base 4 classes and moved them to a different culture would I still need a new class with all that mechanical bloat?

If you class is Corsair or Raider and you worked out that if you played a fighter in a seabound culture then the Corsair class wouldn't be retired then the class should be dumped and a background created for that culture that can be applied to all classes.
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#26
August 04, 2014, 10:10:38 AM
Quote from: Will;775558Consideration:
Rename Barbarians Berserkers.

Add a Barbarian Background.


(Also, generally, allow tweaks of starting skills to reflect different origins)

Beserker should be a feat.
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August 04, 2014, 10:20:48 AM Last Edit: August 04, 2014, 10:25:35 AM by Will
Quote from: jibbajibba;775574Beserker should be a feat.

No it shouldn't.


(psst: maybe say why or something more elaborate than 'X is Y'?)
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#28
August 04, 2014, 10:50:05 AM
Quote from: Will;775578No it shouldn't.


(psst: maybe say why or something more elaborate than 'X is Y'?)

:) I tend to over elaborate so this is my new mode :)

however...

there are several different types of warrior that might have beserk, You have the traditional Viking idea then you have the celtic "wyrd" then you have the way Heracles would go into frenzy, then you have the idea of a pit fighter who might loose control and see a red mist.. etc I can even see a cleric of a chaos god, a wild mage maybe etc etc

so there are a lot of fighters (and even other classes) who might have a beserker facility. How do we build a broad reach combat focused ability that can be shared by a range of PCs from different backgrounds? Yes that is right feats .....
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#29
August 04, 2014, 11:00:06 AM
Fair enough. I think you could approach it with a Berserker class with it's own tweaks to move toward various fighting styles.

Ooo! Or do _both_... have a feat that provides some limited raging, so you can add a bit of berserkering to fighters or clerics or rangers or commoners, as well as having a dedicated Berserker class who can also be pushed in various directions.

(also, I really hope they don't have a fucking commoner class again)
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