I love the entry for 41-42.

I lol'd

Well, thanks to this, I likely won't be running 5E for my group. I can't stand wild magic, and one of them says he won't play unless he gets all the PHB options. It doesn't fit my world, neither do Dragonborn, so they're both out.

I'm sad that one of my players seems to be turning into one of the asshats from "Gamers 2: Dorkness Rising"

Quote from: Silverlion;774996Well, thanks to this, I likely won't be running 5E for my group. I can't stand wild magic, and one of them says he won't play unless he gets all the PHB options. It doesn't fit my world, neither do Dragonborn, so they're both out.

I'm sad that one of my players seems to be turning into one of the asshats from "Gamers 2: Dorkness Rising"

Seriously? Come on now. The surge table only is in play on a 1 on a D20!  Marley Kitty is very sad now and may have to ask Grumpy Cat for backup....

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Quote from: Marleycat;775022Seriously? Come on now. The surge table only is in play on a 1 on a D20!  Marley Kitty is very sad now and may have to ask Grumpy Cat for backup....

That's not how magic works in my setting, sorry. Plus the backgound makes that if magic went wild on you--people would STONE you. Or something similar.

Magic did bad stuff, and left its mark. People accept it, only barely. If it goes wild, your looking at being hunted and destroyed.

Quote from: Silverlion;775042That's not how magic works in my setting, sorry. Plus the backgound makes that if magic went wild on you--people would STONE you. Or something similar.

Magic did bad stuff, and left its mark. People accept it, only barely. If it goes wild, your looking at being hunted and destroyed.

Two issues.
1. Not having Wild Magic work in your setting?  Well, that's why they call it your setting.  Anyone who argues with you on that is an asshat.
2. The real problem is, it seems like some of your players, or at least one, is an asshat.

Flush him or just don't invite him when the rest of you play 5e in a world without Wild Magic and weird mammalian dragon people.

When you get a jackass like that, you either run your game or let him run your game through blackmail.  I know you are in the ass-end of nowhere and all, but you gotta nip that shit in the bud.  Tell Mr. "I gotta have" to nut up and run his own game or go fuck himself and his sister's horse.

Switching the game you want to run because one guy insists on defining your setting for you is handing him the keys, you may as well just put on the clown costume to give them a good show every weekend, because now you're the performing Screen Monkey.

My inner child loves randomness and chaos.

My inner adult likes for power to carry risks and consequences.

My players are gonna EAT THIS UP. They think it's hysterical when people mutate or explode or switch sexual orientation or barf up demons or re-enact the defibrillator scene from John Carpenter's THE THING. If anything, this chart will not be Chaotic enough for them.

Quote from: Marleycat;775022Seriously? Come on now. The surge table only is in play on a 1 on a D20!  Marley Kitty is very sad now and may have to ask Grumpy Cat for backup....

If there's one thing you can be sure Grumpy Cat doesn't like, it's Magic.  If there's one thing you can be sure Grumpy Cat REALLY doesn't like, it's Wild Magic.

Quote from: Silverlion;775042That's not how magic works in my setting, sorry. Plus the backgound makes that if magic went wild on you--people would STONE you. Or something similar.

Magic did bad stuff, and left its mark. People accept it, only barely. If it goes wild, your looking at being hunted and destroyed.

Really? Nit ever work ever? Come on man! Awesome magic is regulated and Wild Mages are hunted.... sounds like Dragonlance and Wheel of Time to me.. bring it on honey.

Quote from: CRKrueger;775044Two issues.
1. Not having Wild Magic work in your setting?  Well, that's why they call it your setting.  Anyone who argues with you on that is an asshat.
2. The real problem is, it seems like some of your players, or at least one, is an asshat.

Flush him or just don't invite him when the rest of you play 5e in a world without Wild Magic and weird mammalian dragon people.

When you get a jackass like that, you either run your game or let him run your game through blackmail.  I know you are in the ass-end of nowhere and all, but you gotta nip that shit in the bud.  Tell Mr. "I gotta have" to nut up and run his own game or go fuck himself and his sister's horse.

Switching the game you want to run because one guy insists on defining your setting for you is handing him the keys, you may as well just put on the clown costume to give them a good show every weekend, because now you're the performing Screen Monkey.

+1
This sums up any response I could make.

Quote from: Marleycat;775049Really? Nit ever work ever? Come on man!

Why would he sacrifice the integrity of his setting for something just cause it's kewl?

I loves me some Wands of Wonder and Bags of Beans, but Chaos Magic as a source of magic always present or always available...it has to have it's place, which isn't going to be every world.

Quote from: CRKrueger;775048If there's one thing you can be sure Grumpy Cat doesn't like, it's Magic.  If there's one thing you can be sure Grumpy Cat REALLY doesn't like, it's Wild Magic.

You sir, don't know know Grumpy Cat

Quote from: CRKrueger;775052Why would he sacrifice the integrity of his setting for something just cause it's kewl?

I loves me some Wands of Wonder and Bags of Beans, but Chaos Magic as a source of magic always present or always available...it has to have it's place, which isn't going to be every world.

Again  you read into things way too far black and white, especially in my posts....so sad... catch up already!

Quote from: Silverlion;774996Well, thanks to this, I likely won't be running 5E for my group. I can't stand wild magic, and one of them says he won't play unless he gets all the PHB options. It doesn't fit my world, neither do Dragonborn, so they're both out.

I'm sad that one of my players seems to be turning into one of the asshats from "Gamers 2: Dorkness Rising"

Uh, I think you're fine.  Read the Wild Surge rules again.  It'd completely up to DM discretion when they need to roll on the chart.  It says the DM can call for a role, but they do not have to.  So...never call for a roll.  Player gets all the PHB options, but you get the call in accord with the rules as written in those options.

Quote from: Mistwell;775060Uh, I think you're fine.  Read the Wild Surge rules again.  It'd completely up to DM discretion when they need to roll on the chart.  It says the DM can call for a role, but they do not have to.  So...never call for a roll.  Player gets all the PHB options, but you get the call in accord with the rules as written in those options.

I suppose that the GM could just choose from the list for an effect that would be "appropriate" or contextual. Fire spell = weird flame effect.