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Petty things that annoy you about games/companies/personalities/etc...

Started by Piestrio, September 25, 2012, 06:37:16 AM

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3rik

#630
January 10, 2014, 12:32:47 PM Last Edit: January 10, 2014, 12:35:08 PM by 3rik
Quote from: TristramEvans;722018Yeah, our hobby seems to suffer from a dearth of competent editors. Ive been tempted since the 90s to put out a book just called "Page XX" that addresses every reference to 'see page xx' in rpgs from the last 30 years.

I wonder if that would get an Indie RPG Award for Best Indie RPG Supplement. :hmm:

Quote from: Herr Arnulfe;722041True, if you check the credits of RPG books there's usually one editor (often one of the writers or developers pulling double-duty) and a proofer is rarely even credited.

Still, that should be enough to get most of the apostrophes where they belong. :mad:

Quote from: Piestrio;722242Ugh, I also hate the "phone it in" Character sheets.

I'm going to stare at this page for hours on end, please put more care into it than simply firing up Word one afternoon and calling it a day.

When originally you get a sheet with too little space for anything and  then the companion book comes with an expanded x-page sheet with huge  amounts of extra space for stuff you hardly ever bother writing down at  all.

Quote from: Zeea;722245I really hate that, too. Especially sheets that give you huge amounts of space for crap nobody cares about and tiny space for long lists.

Actually, there's few character sheets that do not suffer from this to some extent.
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crkrueger

#631
January 10, 2014, 12:44:38 PM
Quote from: 3rik;722431I wonder if that would get an Indie RPG Award for Best Indie RPG Supplement. :hmm:
Only if it was...
1.) Written ironically.
2.) Had an author with hair more then one color (grey not counting).
3.) Had story-based mechanics.

If it has all three, it will get an Ennie.
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daniel_ream

#632
January 10, 2014, 01:08:29 PM
Quote from: Géza Echs;722402Thematically, the text deals a lot with issues of guilt, ideas of political necessity, and questions of psychological determinism versus personal will and desire. The novel is a tragedy, ultimately, and it's painted at such

Word of God is that the book is solely about whether genocide can ever be morally justified. All the alienated teenager crap is just Card trying to make sure that Ender has no moral baggage junking up the question.
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TristramEvans

#633
January 10, 2014, 01:50:18 PM
Quote from: CRKrueger;722434Only if it was...
1.) Written ironically.
2.) Had an author with hair more then one color (grey not counting).
3.) Had story-based mechanics.

If it has all three, it will get an Ennie.

I dont know how to write ironically, but I could certainly manage sarcastically.

Sadly, never dyed my hair and not planning to in this lifetime.

Géza Echs

#634
January 10, 2014, 02:09:35 PM
Quote from: daniel_ream;722447Word of God is that the book is solely about whether genocide can ever be morally justified. All the alienated teenager crap is just Card trying to make sure that Ender has no moral baggage junking up the question.

Well, sure. The question of justifying genocide is the "big question" that the novel deals with. It also deals with all this other stuff, too, only in a lesser focus. :)

jeff37923

#635
January 10, 2014, 02:37:50 PM
Quote from: TristramEvans;722382It plays up to that "In special but misunderstood and one day when a contrived situation arises that makes my specialness really special Ill show them all" myth so many people who read SciFi like to believe about themselves.

Wow. Please show us on the doll where the bad science fiction fan touched you.
"Meh."

TristramEvans

#636
January 10, 2014, 02:53:36 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;722475Wow. Please show us on the doll where the bad science fiction fan touched you.

Like Id let those stinky bastards get close enough to touch me.

Haffrung

#637
January 10, 2014, 03:36:15 PM Last Edit: January 10, 2014, 04:00:03 PM by Haffrung
Just thought of another, and it's a biggie:

GM screens that fail to summarize or present the key information you actually need to run the game. Obscure lists and conversion tables are included, while vital core content is totally absent.

In fact, GM screens are so universally terrible, regardless of system or publisher, that I've come to be believe the omissions are an intentional practice. It seems that RPG publishers make it their business to ensure there is no neat summary of their game mechanics is available in any format - even in the format of a game screens whose ostensible purpose is to summarize reference material.
 

Opaopajr

#638
January 10, 2014, 03:58:27 PM
Birthright's GM screen was pretty decent in my experience. Half Birthright tables, half AD&D tables.

And Mage: the Awakening looked surprisingly complete, albeit with eye-straining (or I'm just getting older); fans told me it covered most applicable things.

However I'm very much in the make-yer-own! camp, as it's hard to tell what will receive the most use in overall campaigns. Too often tables were more examples than fixed canon. But it is true they often overlooked actual play stuff like vision or encounter distance.
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Elfdart

#639
January 10, 2014, 05:03:53 PM
Quote from: Piestrio;722242Ugh, I also hate the "phone it in" Character sheets.

I'm going to stare at this page for hours on end, please put more care into it than simply firing up Word one afternoon and calling it a day.

I hate games where I need anything more than an index card or single sheet of notebook paper as a character sheet.
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Black Vulmea

#640
January 10, 2014, 06:36:41 PM
Quote from: Elfdart;722518I hate games where I need anything more than an index card or single sheet of notebook paper as a character sheet.
This.
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Novastar

#641
January 10, 2014, 08:21:59 PM
Quote from: Elfdart;722518I hate games where I need anything more than an index card or single sheet of notebook paper as a character sheet.
Thank you!
I had to roll up a new character in our Pathfinder game, and everyone looked at me like I was a freak, cause I started using my notebook, rather than a (cost me money) character sheet.

If he lives to level up, then I'll consider giving him a character sheet!
The character's got to EARN that character sheet!
Quote from: dragoner;776244Mechanical character builds remind me of something like picking the shoe in monopoly, it isn\'t what I play rpg\'s for.

Omega

#642
January 10, 2014, 11:08:32 PM
Quote from: Elfdart;722518I hate games where I need anything more than an index card or single sheet of notebook paper as a character sheet.

I still have all the players index cards from my 80s Gamma World sessions and all the players index cards from my 00s Star Frontiers session.

James Gillen

#643
January 11, 2014, 02:01:26 AM
Quote from: Novastar;722577If he lives to level up, then I'll consider giving him a character sheet!
The character's got to EARN that character sheet!

That's the spirit.

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golan2072

#644
January 11, 2014, 04:13:49 AM
Quote from: Black Vulmea;722548This.
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