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Tabletop RPGs vs. video games: the former are 'better'

Started by elfandghost, November 10, 2013, 03:30:46 AM

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The Traveller

#105
November 10, 2013, 06:46:16 PM
Quote from: soviet;7069251. Call TTRPGs something else
2. ???
3. Profit!
Pretty much, yeah. Exept in place of ??? you have an aggressive marketing campaign to highlight the many advantages that TTRPGs have over any other form of entertainment.

But I'm sure you can figure that out between rolling in your enormous earnings and snorting coke off the tits of the hookers you paid for from your enormous earnings.

Quote from: TristramEvans;706927Thread win.
I see good old passive aggressive TE is back in action.

Was it really that hard just to read the thread?
"These children are playing with dark and dangerous powers!"
"What else are you meant to do with dark and dangerous powers?"
A concise overview of GNS theory.
Quote from: that muppet vince baker on RPGsIf you care about character arcs or any, any, any lit 101 stuff, I\'d choose a different game.

TristramEvans

#106
November 10, 2013, 06:54:24 PM
Quote from: The Traveller;706929I see good old passive aggressive TE is back in action.

Was it really that hard just to read the thread?

Don't know what you're on about. My aggressiveness is never passive.

But I will always give kudos to someone who makes me laugh. Sorry that hurts your feeeeeelingssssssss....

soviet

#107
November 10, 2013, 06:56:04 PM
Quote from: The Traveller;706929Pretty much, yeah. Exept in place of ??? you have an aggressive marketing campaign to highlight the many advantages that TTRPGs have over any other form of entertainment.

Goalposts swoosh! What does this have to do with changing the name?
Buy Other Worlds, it\'s a multi-genre storygame excuse for an RPG designed to wreck the hobby from within

The Traveller

#108
November 10, 2013, 07:01:44 PM
Quote from: TristramEvans;706930Don't know what you're on about. My aggressiveness is never passive.
If you say so.

Quote from: soviet;706931Goalposts swoosh! What does this have to do with changing the name?
Enjoy your lifestyle! People keep shoving buckets of money at me for doing stuff, I seriously don't know what to do with it all and honestly don't care about most of it. Sadly nothing related to RPGs, but what can you do. I respect a man dedicated to a life of asceticism, voluntarily or otherwise.
"These children are playing with dark and dangerous powers!"
"What else are you meant to do with dark and dangerous powers?"
A concise overview of GNS theory.
Quote from: that muppet vince baker on RPGsIf you care about character arcs or any, any, any lit 101 stuff, I\'d choose a different game.

TristramEvans

#109
November 10, 2013, 07:26:48 PM
Bro, maybe you should go take a little nap. You're seeing enemies here where there are none.

Granted, if one is looking for a pointless argument, therpgsite will often abide, but I'm not seeing the point here.

Emperor Norton

#110
November 10, 2013, 07:33:20 PM
First of all, I find it funny that you think attacking the credentials of other members while bragging about your own (look how rich I am bro) as some kind of valid argument in a place where you can easily lie about who you are.

Second, I think you literally do not know what the hell brand confusion ACTUALLY means. Brand confusion is a situation in which people can't tell two brands apart and has no idea how they are different. Its where people buy shitty adhesive bandages made of plastic with terrible adhesive because "eh, all bandaids are the same right"

1. CRPGs and TTRPGs aren't even brands to begin with. One is a genre in a medium, and the other is a medium in and of itself.

2. Even if one is more popular than the other, that has NOTHING to do with brand confusion. The fact that one is more popular indicates that there is NO confusion about it when a person goes to the store to buy an RPG. He knows which one he is going for, and isn't buying D&D when he meant to buy Skyrim or vice versa.

And that is just something that I have never in my life experienced to be the case between CRPGs and TTRPGs. I have never seen anyone be confused about what each one is. Unless they weren't even interested in either.

The Traveller

#111
November 10, 2013, 07:53:26 PM
Quote from: Emperor Norton;706935First of all, I find it funny that you think attacking the credentials of other members while bragging about your own (look how rich I am bro) as some kind of valid argument in a place where you can easily lie about who you are.
Not at all, it's the only kind of argument that actually gets through to people like Soviet. If you've never dealt with such folk before, I don't expect you to understand. I personally attach almost no value to material wealth of any kind. Seems kind of superfluous, I already have everything I want. And yet people keep calling, giving me money, telling me to do stuff...

Quote from: Emperor Norton;706935And that is just something that I have never in my life experienced to be the case between CRPGs and TTRPGs. I have never seen anyone be confused about what each one is. Unless they weren't even interested in either.
Your shit is ruined and people are laughing at you.

How does that feel?
"These children are playing with dark and dangerous powers!"
"What else are you meant to do with dark and dangerous powers?"
A concise overview of GNS theory.
Quote from: that muppet vince baker on RPGsIf you care about character arcs or any, any, any lit 101 stuff, I\'d choose a different game.

soviet

#112
November 10, 2013, 07:57:10 PM
Quote from: The Traveller;706936Not at all, it's the only kind of argument that actually gets through to people like Soviet. If you've never dealt with such folk before, I don't expect you to understand. I personally attach almost no value to material wealth of any kind. Seems kind of superfluous, I already have everything I want. And yet people keep calling, giving me money, telling me to do stuff...

Eh?

Quote from: The Traveller;706936Your shit is ruined and people are laughing at you.

How does that feel?

You tell us dude.
Buy Other Worlds, it\'s a multi-genre storygame excuse for an RPG designed to wreck the hobby from within

The Traveller

#113
November 10, 2013, 07:59:43 PM
Quote from: soviet;706937Eh?
Like an echo from a dry well.

Anyway my point still stands, trolls notwithstanding. The hobby needs a reinventing, and why not.
"These children are playing with dark and dangerous powers!"
"What else are you meant to do with dark and dangerous powers?"
A concise overview of GNS theory.
Quote from: that muppet vince baker on RPGsIf you care about character arcs or any, any, any lit 101 stuff, I\'d choose a different game.

soviet

#114
November 10, 2013, 08:05:15 PM
Quote from: The Traveller;706938Like an echo from a dry well.

Anyway my point still stands, trolls notwithstanding. The hobby needs a reinventing, and why not.

You haven't once explained how renaming TTRPGs or CRPGs would make anyone any more money.
Buy Other Worlds, it\'s a multi-genre storygame excuse for an RPG designed to wreck the hobby from within

The Traveller

#115
November 10, 2013, 08:07:52 PM
Quote from: soviet;706939You haven't once explained how renaming TTRPGs or CRPGs would make anyone any more money.
Except for that post where I explained how renaming TTRPGs would make publishers lots of money.
"These children are playing with dark and dangerous powers!"
"What else are you meant to do with dark and dangerous powers?"
A concise overview of GNS theory.
Quote from: that muppet vince baker on RPGsIf you care about character arcs or any, any, any lit 101 stuff, I\'d choose a different game.

soviet

#116
November 10, 2013, 08:09:17 PM
Quote from: The Traveller;706940Except for that post where I explained how renaming TTRPGs would make publishers lots of money.

Link? Quote? Post number?
Buy Other Worlds, it\'s a multi-genre storygame excuse for an RPG designed to wreck the hobby from within

TristramEvans

#117
November 10, 2013, 08:18:05 PM
I assume he means this post

Quote from: The Traveller;706910Okay let me break it down

-  Most people see RPGs, the term and the concept as computer games. This is beyond dispute.

Fair enough. Though I'd say most people are aware to some degree of the existence of TTRPGs as something different, at least insofar as Dungeons & Dragons goes.

Quote- In the unlikely event that someone comes across TTRPGs they will more than likely see them as a primitive version of CRPGs, and move on

An interesting hypothesis, but needs proof.

Quote- A different name, seperate branding for TTRPGs will allow the industry to highlight the many advantages that TTRPGs have over CRPGs, and they are real, substantial advantages


maybe, but that assumes a large untapped audience. I'm not certain that's true. I don't think the reason that model trains aren't more popular is due to people being unaware of their existence, its because its a niche hobby.

Quote- If this happens I would expect the popularity of TTRPGs to blossom as a hobby in their own right rather than as version one of CRPGs

I think rpgs are already a hobby in their own right.

Quote- Ergo every RPG publisher could expect a sharp uptick in their earnings

That would be nice, but doesn't sound incredibly realistic to me.

The Traveller

#118
November 10, 2013, 08:21:37 PM Last Edit: November 10, 2013, 08:23:51 PM by The Traveller
Quote from: soviet;706941Link? Quote? Post number?
Here you go. But of course then I remember that despite having already read and responded to that post you've welded yourself to the concept of storygaming, and as a member of such a right wing collective, and generally an outlier among even them, have elected to disdain all roleplaying initiatives, I feel that your purported allegiance will be no protection given the naiveté of your fellows regarding the value of your products.

In short, you are a chinless rider of your mother, and fuckall can help you at this point.
"These children are playing with dark and dangerous powers!"
"What else are you meant to do with dark and dangerous powers?"
A concise overview of GNS theory.
Quote from: that muppet vince baker on RPGsIf you care about character arcs or any, any, any lit 101 stuff, I\'d choose a different game.

The Traveller

#119
November 10, 2013, 08:23:15 PM
Quote from: TristramEvans;706944That would be nice, but doesn't sound incredibly realistic to me.
Oh it's quite realistic. This is all very doable, as long as the will exists.
"These children are playing with dark and dangerous powers!"
"What else are you meant to do with dark and dangerous powers?"
A concise overview of GNS theory.
Quote from: that muppet vince baker on RPGsIf you care about character arcs or any, any, any lit 101 stuff, I\'d choose a different game.
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