You really, really need that kind of description in the 2e rulebook. The Resistances were one of the hardest parts of the rules for me to understand.

Yep, once I got the concept that Resistances were both abilities-like and damage tracks it all kind of clicked for me.  I also dismissed SUPERS! at first like Dragonfly.  Then after Mutants and Masterminds took up a whole session just trying to making characters and ICONS stalled looking up powers and trying to puzzle out stunts and determined effort, I tossed SUPERS! out for a one shot.  After 30 minutes of character making and explaining the rules we started to have fun.  We screwed up a few things at first but it didn't detract from the fun at all.

It took a session to realize that everything on the character sheet is useful in many different situations and that explaining how that works is a lot of fun and colorful to the story.  I think the competency pool was the hardest to grok at first but now we have that down we can mix different power levels and everyone plays a significant role in the campaign and everyone feels awesome at what they do.  Which is always a good thing.

It is also a pretty simple system to tweak and I think it is a great system to run with little prep.  But my favorite aspect of the game is I get to tell my players yeah sure give it a try and see what happens.

Also it doesn't explain much about teamwork but having a street level guy feint to use up a big bads major ability so the uber guy has a chance to whittle down his resistance on a follow up attack removes the "we can't hurt this guy" syndrome I find in other games.

Don't dismiss the game because it seems too simple as it has some layers that aren't apparent on a read through like I did at first.  We have done gritty street level up to cosmic and so far it hasn't broken.  We did slow down the experience growth some to make it viable for longer campaigns and slower power changes but otherwise we enjoy it immensely.  We have even used it for a high fantasy game with little tweaking.

Quote from: danbuter;633392You really, really need that kind of description in the 2e rulebook. The Resistances were one of the hardest parts of the rules for me to understand.

Trust me! It'll be in there! The owners have stated that the biggest change to the Revised Edtion will be rules clarifications and examples, examples, examples! :-)

All the best,

Dragonfly

I see people disagree with me on Supers! Awesome. I know its a good game at its heart, still nice to see people step up and show where I'm wrong.

I know a Mr. Collins is working on additional materials, since he loves the system.

I appreciate the honest opinions all-around. It sounds like a game with some good things going for it, but also a couple of potential pitfalls I need to look out for. I think I'm going to pull the trigger and order the pdf/print combo from C7, since it's on sale. I'll post some thoughts once I get it and go through it.

Hey Zachary the First,

Let me know what pitfalls you are worried about, and I'll do my best to advise you on them, if you desire.  I always enjoy talking about this game and, as Malyster suggested, come and join us over at the SUPERS! board at: http://bzenithcomicspresents.runboard.com/

:-)

All the best,

Dragonfly

Quote from: TGIDragonfly;633845Hey Zachary the First,

Let me know what pitfalls you are worried about, and I'll do my best to advise you on them, if you desire.  I always enjoy talking about this game and, as Malyster suggested, come and join us over at the SUPERS! board at: http://bzenithcomicspresents.runboard.com/

:-)

All the best,

Dragonfly

Very kind of you. I'm not sure how long it will take C7 to get my print and pdf copies to me, but once I do, I'll be sure to visit!

-Zachary

Quote from: TGIDragonfly;633845Hey Zachary the First,

Let me know what pitfalls you are worried about, and I'll do my best to advise you on them, if you desire.  I always enjoy talking about this game and, as Malyster suggested, come and join us over at the SUPERS! board at: http://bzenithcomicspresents.runboard.com/

:-)

All the best,

Dragonfly

Or, you know, you guys could join us over here!

RPGPundit

Quote from: Zachary The First;633893Very kind of you. I'm not sure how long it will take C7 to get my print and pdf copies to me, but once I do, I'll be sure to visit!

-Zachary

I'm not sure Cubicle 7 are advertising it as a print and pdf bundle, so you might want to double-check that.

When I sold SUPERS! to Hazard Studios, under the deal I had to pull the pdf but C7 were still allowed to sell off their remaining print stock (hence the sale price).

Quote from: Simon W;634273I'm not sure Cubicle 7 are advertising it as a print and pdf bundle, so you might want to double-check that.

When I sold SUPERS! to Hazard Studios, under the deal I had to pull the pdf but C7 were still allowed to sell off their remaining print stock (hence the sale price).

I'm going to be pretty pissed if that's the case. They have it listed under print/pdf bundles, which is the whole reason I went ahead and bought it that way.

Quote from: RPGPundit;634196Or, you know, you guys could join us over here!

RPGPundit

Well, I already have! :-P

I'm just saying that there is a very robust SUPERS! discussion going on at the official boards, so folks might want to check that out in addition to this excellent community. :-)

Best,

Dragonfly

Quote from: TGIDragonfly;634318Well, I already have! :-P

I'm just saying that there is a very robust SUPERS! discussion going on at the official boards, so folks might want to check that out in addition to this excellent community. :-)

Best,

Dragonfly

Now's there's a diplomat!

Quote from: Zachary The First;634325Now's there's a diplomat!

Well, I meant every word!

All the best,

Dragonfly

Quote from: Zachary The First;634292I'm going to be pretty pissed if that's the case. They have it listed under print/pdf bundles, which is the whole reason I went ahead and bought it that way.

Hey there,

Walt from HAZARD... If you send me a PM i can rectify the whole no PDF thing.
Regards,
Walt

Quote from: kroh;634398Hey there,

Walt from HAZARD... If you send me a PM i can rectify the whole no PDF thing.
Regards,
Walt

Awesome! Sure thing!