QuoteMy feeling, to be blunt and probably quite selfish, is...why not just make it free? Is there much money in licensing? Do people want their books covered in logos and materials that, while reaosnable, detract from the ambience? That's one of my major problems with Savage Worlds: it's great if you want a wild west pulpy setting, but if not you still get smiling jack and the 'I gotz Savaged' vibe all over your work.

Ghost-Whistler, none of these things you say here are true.

Since it's the case that none of these things are true, what is your problem with MWP using the SW license as a business model to emulate?

Quote from: Ian Noble;627258Ghost-Whistler, none of these things you say here are true.

Since it's the case that none of these things are true, what is your problem with MWP using the SW license as a business model to emulate?

As i've made clear: i don't have a problem with it. They can do as they please, it's their game it's their business.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;627256I don't want to use SW. I really don't understand why that's hard to grok. I've no desire to use the system and would only want to change it radically if I did. If other people want to use it, good luck to them. It's existence doesn't offend me.

No one, ever, has said ANYTHING about you using Savage Worlds. I have no idea why THAT'S so hard for YOU to understand.

All we have said is that the TERMS of the Cortex+ license are being based off of the TERMS of the Savage Worlds license. The SYSTEM is still not, in anyway way, Savage Worlds.

Quote from: Tommy Brownell;627269The SYSTEM is still not, in anyway way, Savage Worlds.

I don't know why you are saying this. of course it's not. I didn't say Cortex + was like SW. They are two fundamentally different systems.

What did I just read?

Quote from: Eisenmann;627310What did I just read?

i've no idea, this thread stopped making sense ages ago. I've absolutely no idea why people think that I said Cortex + has the same rules as SW.

And until the C+ license is finished, and i guess that will be when there hack book comes out, we won't know specifically how it works, nor be able to use it.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;627313i've no idea, this thread stopped making sense ages ago. I've absolutely no idea why people think that I said Cortex + has the same rules as SW.

And until the C+ license is finished, and i guess that will be when there hack book comes out, we won't know specifically how it works, nor be able to use it.

Oh for the love of fucking god.

Here is the thread for you you moron:

You: Hey I heard C+ licensing is happening.

Dude 1: Yeah they said it would be handled similarly to the SW license.

You: That sucks.

Dude 1: Why would that suck?

You: BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE FREE, AND I DON'T WANT TO HAVE A TON OF IMAGES AND SHIT REQUIRED IN MY WORK.

Dude 2: Uh, dude, the SW license is nothing like that. It is free, and it doesn't require you to use a lot of images and shit.

You: I DON'T CARE WHAT THEY DO I DON'T WANT TO USE SW.

Dude 2: Look, moron, you want to know about the C+ license, MWP said it would be handled similarly to the SW license. Therefore, we explained the SW license because that would be the best way to get an idea of what the C+ license will be.

You; BUT I DON'T WANT TO USE SW.

Everyone: NO ONE SAID YOU HAD TO, WE ARE JUST EXPLAINING THE SW LICENSE BECAUSE MWP SAID THAT IT WOULD BE A SIMILAR FUCKING LICENSE AND YOU SEEM TO NOT UNDERSTAND THE SW LICENSE AT ALL.

You: WHY CAN'T PEOPLE UNDERSTAND I DON'T WANT TO USE SW.

Holy shit man, how in fucking gods name can you NOT GET HOW FUCKING STUPID YOU ARE.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;627183I brought up savage worlds because the cortex + is going to be based on it.

'Nuff said.

Quote from: One Horse Town;627330'Nuff said.

Yes, the license. How is that not clear; that's the title of the thread?!?

Are you Rod Serling?

... Is Ghost Whistler trolling me or is he actually that incapable of following basic logic.

I honestly can't tell anymore.

Quote from: Emperor Norton;627368... Is Ghost Whistler trolling me or is he actually that incapable of following basic logic.

I honestly can't tell anymore.

Welcome to Ghost Whistler.

Whining, making posts that are contradictory, then blaming others for misreading him are his MO.

He doesn't do it on purpose. I blame sugar rush.

Quote from: One Horse Town;627419Welcome to Ghost Whistler.

Whining, making posts that are contradictory, then blaming others for misreading him are his MO.

He doesn't do it on purpose. I blame sugar rush.

what part of this isn't clear. The thread is about the licensing arrangement. How on earth is that not clear to you? How on fucking earth do you read from that that I think savage worlds uses the same rules as Cortex? They are two totally different systems ffs. The only trolling here is you.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;627495what part of this isn't clear. The thread is about the licensing arrangement. How on earth is that not clear to you? How on fucking earth do you read from that that I think savage worlds uses the same rules as Cortex? They are two totally different systems ffs. The only trolling here is you.

I'm going to try to help you here - and i'm sure you're going to take it as an attack or something. You suck at communicating what you mean. Somewhere between the thought in your head and what you write on the screen bits go missing.

People on this thread have been trying to help you and you've gone all over the shop. People thought you thought Cortex + and SW used the same rules because you said it. Now, you obviously meant that they're going to use a similar licensing agreement, but due to the vagaries of thread drift, by the time you said -  "brought up savage worlds because the cortex + is going to be based on it." it wasn't clear that you meant the license or the bloody game - thread fucking title or not.

When people obviously didn't add up the dots missing from your brain to the keyboard, instead of saying "Let me clarify, i mean ....", you did your usual "No, i didn't say that." and dug your heels in.

You've derailed your own thread because you're unable to communicate clearly and when the opportunity arised to clarify your meaning you didn't take it.

There, some friendly advice to help you in future. If your meaning hasn't translated to other posters, clarify it and move on.

No need to thank me.

Quote from: One Horse Town;627504I'm going to try to help you here - and i'm sure you're going to take it as an attack or something.

Perhaps not presuming how i might react then would have been better. Especially as you have  already attacked me, unprovoked, in this thread.

QuoteYou suck at communicating what you mean. Somewhere between the thought in your head and what you write on the screen bits go missing.

No, I simply left out, quite accidentally, the word license from that quote you made above.

That doesn't give people license to resort to unprovoked abuse, nor does it allow them to claim the moral high ground when being abusive.

Quite honestly, the quote doesn'tsay 'rules' either and given that you really should be able to infer from context I dion't think people have the right to then resort to unprovoked nastiness.

If you can't understand what I meant in a thread specifically about and entitled 'cortex + licensing' then you aren't really in a position to lecture me - especially when you adopt a patronisingtone in so doing after previously insulting me.

Clearly you don't like what I have to say. That's fine; it's unfortunate, but that's fine. I wouldsuggest then using the ignore function.

QuoteNo need to thank me.

Indeed.

Quote from: Emperor Norton;627328You: BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE FREE, AND I DON'T WANT TO HAVE A TON OF IMAGES AND SHIT REQUIRED IN MY WORK.

Get a life.

And a working caps lock button.