Quote from: The Butcher;594325I am pleasantly surprised to see DCC rocking #5. Never underestimate the power of a pretty book, I guess (all 5 games on the list have pretty, pretty books, BTW).

#4 is kind of unexpected, though, as I don't see a lot of Dragon Age love here or at RPGnet.

And like Brendan, I'd love to see more variety. If only Chaosium stopped trying to mess with the rules and did a snazzy CoC 7e (in the mold of the beautiful French and German versions), maybe we'd see a game I actually play on that list. A man can dream...

Uh, if CoC gets anywhere near the top 5 it will be because they did mess with the rules.

Quote from: Internet Death;594347Uh, if CoC gets anywhere near the top 5 it will be because they did mess with the rules.

What, you have a problem with a new edition of CoC that requires collectable miniatures to play?

Quote from: Soylent Green;594350What, you have a problem with a new edition of CoC that requires collectable miniatures to play?

lol, is that even true?

Quote from: Internet Death;594347Uh, if CoC gets anywhere near the top 5 it will be because they did mess with the rules.

Sure, because everybody fucking hates the clunky and unintuitive CoC ruleset, which historically has garnered zero popular or critical acclaim. :rolleyes:

Seriously, the one thing these 5 games have in common is beautiful color art. The Mythos is as hot an IP as it's ever been, Cthulhu's all over pop culture these days, and I can't help but wonder whether Chaosium is just one pretty book away from cashing on it.

Quote from: Internet Death;594362lol, is that even true?

No, no. Rest assured I'm just kidding. :-)

Quote from: Internet Death;594347Uh, if CoC gets anywhere near the top 5 it will be because they did mess with the rules.

Go fuck yourself. Seriously.

Quote from: The Butcher;594365Sure, because everybody fucking hates the clunky and unintuitive CoC ruleset, which historically has garnered zero popular or critical acclaim. :rolleyes:

Seriously, the one thing these 5 games have in common is beautiful color art. The Mythos is as hot an IP as it's ever been, Cthulhu's all over pop culture these days, and I can't help but wonder whether Chaosium is just one pretty book away from cashing on it.

I, for one, know plenty of folks who think Chaosium's flagship game would benefit from a significant rules overhaul.  The system has always been flawed and usually houseruled into something else entirely.  I found it so lacking that I'm now a total Trail of Cthulhu convert.

Quote from: Bill;594287I love the Dragon Age setting. Sadly, I can't get anyone to play the Dragon Age rpg.

Good to see its on the list though.

I'd play, I don't own it but I'd play.

Quote from: The Butcher;594325#4 is kind of unexpected, though, as I don't see a lot of Dragon Age love here or at RPGnet.

Oh, I frequently find RPG forums to be out of touch with what's getting played out there.

That said, I am sort of surprised the 40K titles still holding on to popularity... I haven't heard much about them lately.

Quote from: The Butcher;594365Sure, because everybody fucking hates the clunky and unintuitive CoC ruleset, which historically has garnered zero popular or critical acclaim. :rolleyes:

Seriously, the one thing these 5 games have in common is beautiful color art. The Mythos is as hot an IP as it's ever been, Cthulhu's all over pop culture these days, and I can't help but wonder whether Chaosium is just one pretty book away from cashing on it.

All the morons had to do was translate and reprint the CoC stuff coming out of France, instead they're going to ignore the lessons learned by WotC and FFG and starting fucking that n3wsk00l storygame chicken baby.  (Yeah, it's been one of those days. )

Quote from: CRKrueger;594399All the morons had to do was translate and reprint the CoC stuff coming out of France, instead they're going to ignore the lessons learned by WotC and FFG and starting fucking that n3wsk00l storygame chicken baby.  (Yeah, it's been one of those days. )

Yeah, I got my storygame period as well. I appreciate that Internet Death is living in the middle of story game town surrounded by mentally crippled people who drank WAY too much of either the Forge, Story-games/"Indie", and/or the "Rules/Balance Über Alles" kool aid to in the end think that CoC is a broken game, but I've seen myself buttloads of people enjoy the hell out the game for decades, and many of them still do.

CoC is a Classic game in the truest sense of the term and I for one can't understand why Chaosium suddenly decided to fuck around with it when the French have come up with a GREAT version that still presents the same game but with loads of background and rules options for folks to basically play the game they want out of it, a game that's RIGHT FUCKING THERE for them to look at and translate.

But hey, whatever. It's my storygame time of the month, folks.

Boring list.

This was a much better one.

Quote from: silva;594409Boring list.

This was a much better one.

More variety, but still a bunch of crap.

Here's a hint: if your "best RPGs" list doesn't include D&D, Call of Cthulhu and Traveller (one version of each is fine), and at least one big non-D&D fantasy RPG (Runequest, TFT, Rolemaster, Palladium, whatever), I'll be disinclined to take it seriously.

I wish the numbers were more granular, it would be insteresting to see the units the 1e reprints did.  Big Pun, can you get those for us?  You have the direct line afterall.

I'm actually kinda surprised to see D&D4E on that list. Then again, I've seen an awful lot of 4E books on sale.

I'd love to see Chaosium translate the French version of CoC. In fact, if they end up changing the rules while still going with their current english print format, they're a bunch of idiots.