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Cortex +

Started by Ghost Whistler, October 11, 2012, 06:10:27 AM

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Ghost Whistler

Anyone know if there are any plans to open source this awesome system?

If not whom must I bribe?
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Ladybird

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;590746Anyone know if there are any plans to open source this awesome system?

If not whom must I bribe?

There were rumours of a toolkit-ised version of the core mechanics, and how to tweak them for your particular game. But it isn't really "one system" as such - the various C+ games are all quite different, beyond that one core mechanic. Not sure what the current schedule is though.

As for it becoming "open source", I don't think that is a thing that is planned. Define what you mean - do you want to see the mechanics under the OGL, for example?
one two FUCK YOU

Ghost Whistler

Quote from: Ladybird;590761There were rumours of a toolkit-ised version of the core mechanics, and how to tweak them for your particular game. But it isn't really "one system" as such - the various C+ games are all quite different, beyond that one core mechanic. Not sure what the current schedule is though.

As for it becoming "open source", I don't think that is a thing that is planned. Define what you mean - do you want to see the mechanics under the OGL, for example?

I mean not getting sued for using the really good ideas in MHR for my own work, if e'er i finish it and try selling it.
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Ghost Whistler

Quote from: CRKrueger;590787Ask Margaret Weiss, she'll be in one of Dan's chats next week.

cool. if i can figure out mirc and it's hosted at a UK friendly time i will check it out. (I ain't getting outta bed at 3am for no broad!)
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Ladybird

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;590768I mean not getting sued for using the really good ideas in MHR for my own work, if e'er i finish it and try selling it.

Could be more complicated than you'd like, due to MHR being a licenced product.
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Ghost Whistler

Quote from: Ladybird;590840Could be more complicated than you'd like, due to MHR being a licenced product.

MHR yes, but it follows a basic system they've used for a few games now.
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Anon Adderlan

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;590768I mean not getting sued for using the really good ideas in MHR for my own work, if e'er i finish it and try selling it.

You can't legitimately be sued because the rules aren't patented, and MWP are not big enough assholes to attempt to anyway.

Ghost Whistler

You might not be able to patent rules but without some kind of endorsement using someone else's ideas wholesale just seems like plagiarism to me. I wouldn't feel good about that.
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Scoundrel

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I think that the very concept of Cortex+ is a little too loose and "wild west" to open source-  At it's heart Cortex+ is simply "How far can we bend the Cortex System (which has its own really good generic book, BTW) without the whole damn thing being utterly broken?"

How many Cortex+ games are out there?  We've got Leverage, MHRPG, and Smallville.  None of those even remotely look like one another at the character sheet level.  Which one of these would be the model for the open source project?   Choosing one over the other two will alienate (and confuse, and piss off) fans of the other two who have only played that version of the Cortex+ concept and have a firm idea of what "Cortex+ is".

 and let's not get the Cortex System Book (and other games that use the Cortex System, like Demon Hunters, Supernatural, Serenity, NuBSG, etc.) confused with the Cortex+, as it will create brand and game confusion similar to D&D vs. Advanced D&D-  People who have heard of neither will take a look at the shelf and go "Cortex...  and Cortex Plus...  Do I need the Cortex book to use Cortex+? Is one better than the other?  Which one do I get?"  Brand confusion is a thing.  It's the main reason why my first RPG wasn't D&D or AD&D.

Anywho...  Just some thoughts.
 

TristramEvans

At its most basic, Cortex seems to be The SiliCORE system with different die types.

Ghost Whistler

Quote from: TristramEvans;591247At its most basic, Cortex seems to be The SiliCORE system with different die types.

I once owned tribe 8 but it weirded me out and I don't remember the rules system.

I once owned Core Command too, but they fucked that right up.
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Scoundrel

#12
Quote from: TristramEvans;591247At its most basic, Cortex seems to be The SiliCORE system with different die types.

I'm...  perplexed at this statement.  

Silhouette/SilCore  takes your skill number, rolls that many dice, and adds the single relevant attribute modifier to that single highest die to form a total, and then compares that total to a difficulty number.

Vanilla Cortex (and Cortex+ as portrayed in the Leverage RPG) takes two )(and only two) trait dice, rolls, adds them together to form a total, and compares that unmodified total to a difficulty number.

Cortex+ as written in MHRP rolls as many trait dice as you can justify to the gamemaster, adds two of those together to achieve an unmodified total,to beat another diceroll (the GM's Doom Pool if nothing else) and then the player picks a single die from those remaining to be the strength of the applied result.


I suppose that there are dicepools involved in examples 1 and 3, but they achieve resolution methods differently.  


I also suppose that examples 1 and 2 both compare totals to a difficulty number, but the dicerolling methods don't add up.

So, how is Cortex or Cortex+ Silcore with different dice?
 

RPGPundit

I don't care for this system.

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Ghost Whistler

Quote from: RPGPundit;591780I don't care for this system.

RPGPundit

that's nice, but why?
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