Quote from: Teazia;590725I quite like the bit you wrote about calling TLG to inquiring about Gary's favorite charity.  Very well done, its is nice to see some goodwill in the sometimes acrid old school realm (I can be guilty of it at times as well).

Well, thank you.  I'm not part of the OSR; I'm just "OS" if you will, but regardless I think it's important to give to charity when one can.

Ill be getting the A and S books regardless of version. Nice to have them in hardcover for longer life, and want to reward WOTC for trying.

Definitely WotC is on the right track to create lots of good will among former customers. I think this is a great move. They can afford to be picky choosing which stuff they reprint, and there is a lot of interest, so it's an almost sure sale.

Good times

Quote from: Imperator;590802Definitely WotC is on the right track to create lots of good will among former customers. I think this is a great move. They can afford to be picky choosing which stuff they reprint, and there is a lot of interest, so it's an almost sure sale.

Good times

Amazing the Win-Win situations you can find when you're not trying to be a mindlessly cock-knocking Brand-Nazi.

So the Pun is no longer just a Next consultant but a general D&D consultant. Very interesting. Would that make the site an more than unofficial wotc research site?  Also, how much influence does his weight carry in Seattle?

WotC has been sitting on a goldmine for over a decade.  They're finally cashing in.

I wonder what will be next?  Original D&D?  More AD&D?  Basic?  Hmm...

Quote from: thedungeondelver;590930WotC has been sitting on a goldmine for over a decade.  They're finally cashing in.

I wonder what will be next?  Original D&D?  More AD&D?  Basic?  Hmm...

My vote would be a boxed (or at least a hardback version) of OD&D and supplements.

Quote from: Lilaxe;590956My vote would be a boxed (or at least a hardback version) of OD&D and supplements.

An affordable facsimile reprint of OD&D?
Hell, yes!

Quote from: CRKrueger;590837Amazing the Win-Win situations you can find when you're not trying to be a mindlessly cock-knocking Brand-Nazi.

Yeah, it's unbelievable. It's almost like thinking in terms of business could bring you actual business

Quote from: thedungeondelver;590930WotC has been sitting on a goldmine for over a decade.  They're finally cashing in.

I wonder what will be next?  Original D&D?  More AD&D?  Basic?  Hmm...

That would be a smart move. I've been saying this for a long time. You have a mountain of products with a lot of value to collectionists and completists, that you can produce at a very low cost for you (as you don't have to pay again authors, illustrators and the works), that can getyou a sizable market at no effort, and that can create massive amounts of good will all across the gaming community. Fuck, if you don't want to risk unsold stock you just go POD or sell PDFs. Everyone will be happy and whatever amount of cash they make off the products is good money BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO WORK HARD TO CREATE IT.

I mean, those products ARE MEANT TO SELL LIKE HOTCAKES even to people that won't play them but would like to have them out of collectionism. For fuck's sake. THERE IS NOTHING TO LOSE.

Quote from: Imperator;590981For fuck's sake. THERE IS NOTHING TO LOSE.

Pride.

That there is a huge demand for product 30+ years old and not so much for the new shiny stuff is a big wake up call to current game designers that perhaps innovation and improvement are not actually synonyms.

Quote from: Exploderwizard;591223Pride.

That there is a huge demand for product 30+ years old and not so much for the new shiny stuff is a big wake up call to current game designers that perhaps innovation and improvement are not actually synonyms.

It's about goddamned time.  Maybe the neophiliac amateur game designers on the interwebz will get the memo next.

While I hope WotC gets the message, I do hope lots of people on the intertubes and elsewhere keep experimenting. Things like ICONS and ACKS are both the result of tinkering with what came before, and, to me, are fantastic. While not all change is good, without trying things out and sometimes (read: often) blowing it, you'll never get the good stuff. After all, what was OD&D but some messing around with the perfectly fine Chainmail?

Quote from: Bobloblah;591329While I hope WotC gets the message, I do hope lots of people on the intertubes and elsewhere keep experimenting. Things like ICONS and ACKS are both the result of tinkering with what came before, and, to me, are fantastic. While not all change is good, without trying things out and sometimes (read: often) blowing it, you'll never get the good stuff. After all, what was OD&D but some messing around with the perfectly fine Chainmail?

True, however, there's a difference between that and
"D&D's "problem" for a wildly successful 30-some years has been a lack of coherence."
or
"You know, a strictly defined Narrative Structure is what WFRP needs that was really lacking the last 20 years."

It's not a coincidence that both licenses are now going on the life support of reprints of older editions.

Quote from: Exploderwizard;591223Pride.

That there is a huge demand for product 30+ years old and not so much for the new shiny stuff is a big wake up call to current game designers that perhaps innovation and improvement are not actually synonyms.

Well, maybe I am the kind of mercenary that prefers solid sales

Quote from: Bobloblah;591329While I hope WotC gets the message, I do hope lots of people on the intertubes and elsewhere keep experimenting. Things like ICONS and ACKS are both the result of tinkering with what came before, and, to me, are fantastic. While not all change is good, without trying things out and sometimes (read: often) blowing it, you'll never get the good stuff. After all, what was OD&D but some messing around with the perfectly fine Chainmail?

True that. I agree.

Quote from: Exploderwizard;591223That there is a huge demand for product 30+ years old and not so much for the new shiny stuff is a big wake up call to current game designers that perhaps innovation and improvement are not actually synonyms.

It could also be seen as confirmation that the market IS INDEED made up of mostly older gamers, looking to get their nostalgia on.

I tend to disagree with that observation; I feel the majority of gamers are still relatively young (teenagers and college kids), but the minority with a lot of disposable cash, are the grognards (like myself), which includes A LOT of "completionist's".