What would you consider the most classic fantasy RPG monster or humanoid not (originally) from the D&D rules?  We're not talking from literary sources here, but rather iconic creatures from other rpgs, ie Skaven, wolfen, beast-men, duck-men from Runequest, etc...

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Quote from: RPGPundit;573258What would you consider the most classic fantasy RPG monster or humanoid not (originally) from the D&D rules?  We're not talking from literary sources here, but rather iconic creatures from other rpgs, ie Skaven, wolfen, beast-men, duck-men from Runequest, etc...

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I vote for Vargr.  You see a dog in a jumpsuit and you immediately think Traveller.

Skaven are a myth. They don't exist.

I'd probably go for Chaos Warriors, in their Warhammer incarnations.

They should be terrifying foes. These aren't just people who have lived in a horrific tear in reality for centuries... they're the elite of those people. They don't live there, they thrive there.

Especially in an "authority == asskicking" world like Warhammer, when the other side's line troops can go toe-to-toe with your general - and win! - then you're fucked.

Duckmen.

Why a duck?

Why NOT?

JG

Quote from: Panzerkraken;573260I vote for Vargr.  You see a dog in a jumpsuit and you immediately think Traveller.

I'd agree, but will quibble and say that Traveller is not fantasy but science fiction.

Ducks from Runequest then. That one race defined the game for me when I was a kid because the concept just seemed so stupid.

Not "from" D&D? Do you mean not "in" D&D?

I mean, dragon is the most classic fantasy monster with origins far outside of D&D.

Skaven aren't much removed from wererats, if you read the old descriptions of them, they're a very different beast than just a "like a werewolf, but rat". Wolfen and Beast-men strike me as just versions of lycanthropes (including jackalweres) or gnolls or minotaurs or what not.

I'd go with Chaos Warrior...I see one of those, and there's nothing in D&D that really is much like it. You've got the whole warrior-devoted to a god thing, but that only minimally is like a Paladin (since the Chaos Warriors don't get spells or cleric-like powers), and you've got the mutations going on, which are way outside of most all D&D milieus.

Runequest gets a lot of flak because of the duckmen, but when it comes to monsters, I find Runequest's trolls, the Uz, so different from D&D's depiction of trolls, that they're actually a pretty good iconic Runequest monster.

For WFRP I'd hazard say it's not the skaven or the Chaos Warriors, but the mutants and beastmen. No other bestiary entry does a better job of demonstrating Chaos in action in that setting.

Dragon Snail
Deodanth
Phraint
Dragon Ogre

Walktapus (walktapi) was the first monster that came to my mind, but ducks are a good bet.

Quote from: Doom;573360Not "from" D&D? Do you mean not "in" D&D?

I mean, dragon is the most classic fantasy monster with origins far outside of D&D.

I agree with this post.  Not only is the word Dragons part of the RPG name, they're some of the mightiest creatures in the Monster Manual and guard a horde full of treasure (the ultimate reward for adventuring parties).  They featured prominently in King Arthur's legends, and D&D heavily draws from mythic Medieval Europe in its themes and trappings.

Earthdawn had Obsidimen and T'skrang as races that stood out as pretty unique.  Not specifically 'monsters', though.

Broos (for me, personally).

do Zentraedi count?

otherwise, Palladium's Wolfen (although I think Kankoran are much cooler).

or maybe Kobolds (from Kobolds Ate My Baby!)

Quote from: The Butcher;573384For WFRP I'd hazard say it's not the skaven or the Chaos Warriors, but the mutants and beastmen. No other bestiary entry does a better job of demonstrating Chaos in action in that setting.

Beastman, definitely for WFRP.

Wolfen from Palladium Fantasy are pretty iconic for me too.

Helghasts from Lone Wolf, given that Giaks are just Goblins.

Grey Hoods from Dragon Warriors.

Quote from: Benoist;574086Broos (for me, personally).

I agree of the monsters i read about in the MRQ2 monster collesium book the Broo seemed the most unique, though they do sorta reseble beastmen from warhammer so im not sure how unique they really are.

I also liked the Uz for how different to the usual trolls of fantasy rpg's they were so they'd get my second vote.

The Femir from Warhammer always seemed pretty unique to me aswell(at least back in my HerQuest days), though i guess you could just reskin a cyclops with slightly more orcish origins to get femir's.