Quote from: Ladybird;557523If you had a printer, or a scanner/printer, or even just access to either, you could copy the relevant pages and just take those along. Or print the relevant pages from the .pdf. Or ask a friend with any of that kit to do any of the above.

Or copy the relevant bits into your GM notes.

Which is what I do, for NPC stats and the like. When it's stuff like character creation, or battleship creation, or whatever, and you have stuff spread over several books, then it's not quite so easy.

I think your sorta missing the main reason why these books are often so scattershot  ghosty (which considering your initials is kind of a surprise). Games workshop have to ok what goes into each splatbook for the gamelines which is both why they can take years(like this bestiery) and why your getting random batches of npc's and races spread over a half dozen books(they probably dont want information repeated) just as its also why those races you mentioned are missing, to be honest i'd just cobble together whatever info your missing from your campaign notes via the other gameline splats and reverse engineering the info from the 40k army books9which you can more than likely get for free via a handfull of forae that deal with the wargame) and extrapolating the rest on the fly.

Quote from: Broken-Serenity;557534I think your sorta missing the main reason why these books are often so scattershot  ghosty (which considering your initials is kind of a surprise). Games workshop have to ok what goes into each splatbook for the gamelines which is both why they can take years(like this bestiery) and why your getting random batches of npc's and races spread over a half dozen books(they probably dont want information repeated) just as its also why those races you mentioned are missing, to be honest i'd just cobble together whatever info your missing from your campaign notes via the other gameline splats and reverse engineering the info from the 40k army books9which you can more than likely get for free via a handfull of forae that deal with the wargame) and extrapolating the rest on the fly.

I've said this, in as many words, many many times.  He doesn't feel that he should have to look anywhere else for information on 40k.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;557532You are ridiculous.

My gaming area is 10 miles away from me. We don't play in my house, and no, that isn't going to change.

What miniatures and terrain do you think I own? YOu do know I'm referring to the rpg here, right?

You know you wouldn't be as mad if you played the miniature game, right?  I've told you that before but you really need to take it to heart.

We don't play in 99% of my club's houses either, but if we didn't play in my own (like most of our members, some of whom travel from other townships 15m away) we'd be sure to have the relevant reference manuals there.  Many players bring their own manuals, but we have everything we need for every game at our gaming area.

You, sir, are ridiculous.

I'd be FFG, I'd consider releasing an Eldar game just to shut GW up.

*ponders*

But then, he'd bitch at every single page of the book, about this or that missing, this or that art piece being cheesy, wondering if FFG have lost their marbles or why in hell they didn't include what he regards as the obligatory enemy or whatnot. That would be a waste of time.

Quote from: Benoist;557539I'd be FFG, I'd consider releasing an Eldar game just to shut GW up.

*ponders*

But then, he'd bitch at every single page of the book, about this or that missing, this or that art piece being cheesy, wondering if FFG have lost their marbles or why in hell they didn't include what he regards as the obligatory enemy or whatnot. That would be a waste of time.

+1:D

Quote from: Broken-Serenity;557534I think your sorta missing the main reason why these books are often so scattershot  ghosty (which considering your initials is kind of a surprise). Games workshop have to ok what goes into each splatbook for the gamelines which is both why they can take years(like this bestiery) and why your getting random batches of npc's and races spread over a half dozen books(they probably dont want information repeated) just as its also why those races you mentioned are missing, to be honest i'd just cobble together whatever info your missing from your campaign notes via the other gameline splats and reverse engineering the info from the 40k army books9which you can more than likely get for free via a handfull of forae that deal with the wargame) and extrapolating the rest on the fly.

I don't really think it's GW at all. That just doesn't make sense. I think it's just poor plotting on FFG's part. It's not like GW arenm't letting them use things like the Eldar, obviously they are. Instead FFG just haphazardly put some Eldar here and some there. GW haven't said they can't use the Kroot - quite the opposite. Instread FFG obviously felt they didn't warrant attention in this book.

Quote from: Blackhand;557535I've said this, in as many words, many many times.  He doesn't feel that he should have to look anywhere else for information on 40k.



You know you wouldn't be as mad if you played the miniature game, right?  I've told you that before but you really need to take it to heart.

We don't play in 99% of my club's houses either, but if we didn't play in my own (like most of our members, some of whom travel from other townships 15m away) we'd be sure to have the relevant reference manuals there.  Many players bring their own manuals, but we have everything we need for every game at our gaming area.

You, sir, are ridiculous.

Why are you bringing up the minis game? it's a completely different product.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;557550Why are you bringing up the minis game? it's a completely different product.

That's fucking comical, is what that is.

Quote from: Benoist;557539I'd be FFG, I'd consider releasing an Eldar game just to shut GW up.

*ponders*

But then, he'd bitch at every single page of the book, about this or that missing, this or that art piece being cheesy, wondering if FFG have lost their marbles or why in hell they didn't include what he regards as the obligatory enemy or whatnot. That would be a waste of time.

I'd release the book if I were FFG, but I would do what Mongoose Publishing did to the Traveller grognards.

Matthew Sprange got tired of listening to the endless bitching of canonista on the Citizens of the Imperium forum about the Aslan Alien Suppliment that had just been released, so he had one of the staff artists put a pair of deer antlers on a pic of a Vargr, posted it on the forum, and said that was a preview of what to expect from the upcoming Vargr Alien Suppliment. The canonista went completely apeshit.

I'd keep the name of the Eldar, but I would make them Squats and bring the space dwarves back just to piss off whinging cunts like Ghost Whistler.

Quote from: jeff37923;557623I'd release the book if I were FFG, but I would do what Mongoose Publishing did to the Traveller grognards.

Matthew Sprange got tired of listening to the endless bitching of canonista on the Citizens of the Imperium forum about the Aslan Alien Suppliment that had just been released, so he had one of the staff artists put a pair of deer antlers on a pic of a Vargr, posted it on the forum, and said that was a preview of what to expect from the upcoming Vargr Alien Suppliment. The canonista went completely apeshit.

I'd keep the name of the Eldar, but I would make them Squats and bring the space dwarves back just to piss off whinging cunts like Ghost Whistler.

You should know they did something they said they never would.

They listed Squats as an acceptable variant of abhuman in the new 40k rulebook.

You know what this means.

Quote from: Blackhand;557627You should know they did something they said they never would.

They listed Squats as an acceptable variant of abhuman in the new 40k rulebook.

You know what this means.

I did not know that! ROFLAMO!

That is funny as Hell!

Quote from: jeff37923;557623I'd release the book if I were FFG, but I would do what Mongoose Publishing did to the Traveller grognards.

Matthew Sprange got tired of listening to the endless bitching of canonista on the Citizens of the Imperium forum about the Aslan Alien Supplement that had just been released, so he had one of the staff artists put a pair of deer antlers on a pic of a Vargr, posted it on the forum, and said that was a preview of what to expect from the upcoming Vargr Alien Supplement. The canonista went completely apeshit.

oh man, that's fucking GREAT--i wish i was still lurking at CotI when that happened!  would've been a fun shitstorm to watch.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;557550Why are you bringing up the minis game? it's a completely different product.

Set in the same fictional universe. With equally applicable fluff. And with stats and backgrounds for the same types of creatures.

Want some Dark Eldar? Go to Lexicanum, read some fluff, decide what you want them to do in your session, write some stats. FFG's Fun Police will not arrest you for making up some shit you think would be fun.

(If I am ever in charge of a game line, my demo team will totally be called the "Fun Police".)

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;557533Which is what I do, for NPC stats and the like. When it's stuff like character creation, or battleship creation, or whatever, and you have stuff spread over several books, then it's not quite so easy.

It's work you only need to do once, though. It's not necessarily hard, just time-consuming.

I'd be kinda surprised if no summary booklets exist for the games. SLA Industries and Shadowrun have a lot of similar player-created support material.

Quote from: Blackhand;557618That's fucking comical, is what that is.

How so?

Quote from: jeff37923;557623I'd keep the name of the Eldar, but I would make them Squats and bring the space dwarves back just to piss off whinging cunts like Ghost Whistler.

I never once whinged about an eldar game. You didn't read what i wrote did you. Again.

Quote from: Blackhand;557627You should know they did something they said they never would.

They listed Squats as an acceptable variant of abhuman in the new 40k rulebook.

You know what this means.

Um, nothing?

Quote from: Ladybird;557666Set in the same fictional universe. With equally applicable fluff. And with stats and backgrounds for the same types of creatures.

Want some Dark Eldar? Go to Lexicanum, read some fluff, decide what you want them to do in your session, write some stats. FFG's Fun Police will not arrest you for making up some shit you think would be fun.

Which is why FFG's approach is all the more inexplicable.

This thread is no better than the fighter/wizard abortion of a thread, thanks GW.