Maybe hatred of a botched rpg version can reunite you.  There is still hope!

Well I want to be Fred, Wilma is clearly the hotter wife.

Quote from: DominikSchwager;514397Well I want to be Fred, Wilma is clearly the hotter wife.

Go right ahead.  Betty is easily triple her heat.

Quote from: Blackhand;514420Go right ahead.  Betty is easily triple her heat.

!!!!

Quote from: VectorSigma;514310I think the real tragedy here is that you two are the only ones who apparently have any desire to talk WarMachine.

That's cuz the popularity of Warmahordeschine has fallen quite low in the past 3 years. Their MkII killed the game.
Sure they still have pockets of fans here and there, but the mass play they had circa 2007 will never be reached again.

Perhaps west of the Mississippi that is different and I gots no clue about overseas, but east of the Mississippi it's on the junk pile.

Maybe it's just my age showing, but 2007 doesn't seem like very long ago to me at all.  It's kinda hard to make a ruling like that, since it's what...not quite five years?

Seems to be just catchin' on out here in the Southwest.

The game has been out since 2003.

Fun fact: the d20 IK RPG books which fetch obscene prices online, can be found here in Brazil in the bargain bins of game stores, and even regular bookstores and newstands... (Portuguese translations, naturally)

Quote from: Sommerjon;514436The game has been out since 2003.

Yeah, I know that.  I was referring to your comment about 2007 being peak year.

Quote from: Sommerjon;514430Sure they still have pockets of fans here and there, but the mass play they had circa 2007 will never be reached again.

I'm starting to see elements of Forum Lurker's Syndrome in junior posters.  We're having a bad outbreak here.

Quote from: The Butcher;514440Fun fact: the d20 IK RPG books which fetch obscene prices online, can be found here in Brazil in the bargain bins of game stores, and even regular bookstores and newstands... (Portuguese translations, naturally)

You know the four step profit plan, right?

Step 1: Buy a lot of them
Step 2: Sell them online as "Portuguese with English Instruction"
Step 3: ??
Step 4: Profit

Quote from: Blackhand;514441Yeah, I know that.  I was referring to your comment about 2007 being peak year.



I'm starting to see elements of Forum Lurker's Syndrome in junior posters.  We're having a bad outbreak here.

I was a Press Ganger for 5 years.  
Hell in it's heyday we had 7 PGs in a 60 mile radius, now... zero.  We were having having tournaments 3 times a month, campaigns, open gaming,  80 people on average showing up to play in either the tournaments or campaigns or open gaming, you know cuz not everyone likes to play in tournaments or open gaming or campaigns.  Before they even announced MKII people were already drifting away.   So I started calling my old haunts and other contacts( I used to work for Ral Partha and GW back in the day, and did other demo work/playtest for other mini companies)  Most places were seeing a decline or out right total stoppage of warmachine.   Why do you think they came out with MKII?  They knew people were leaving.   Why do you think they made it an open test? To drum up renewed interest.   Dom makes a good point about wtf were they thinking?  They already knew that the 'experienced' players were leaving and needed either a renewed interest or a fresh crop of players.  They couldn't keep all of the 'old guard',  it's not how mini games work. When you add to that their model of a 3D-CCG which is what warmachine became(thats what happens when your owner was a card artist and your game designer was a painter for WotC's defunct Chainmail system)  it's no wonder they are trying to ramp up interest,  super heavies?  wtf ever.  Their RPG?  hell they couldn't even produce a d20 version in any reasonable length of time.  Lock & Load came out before the miniature game did.   Their RPG is going to be a big fat failbomb.

They are gonna sell at least one (1) copy.

I have no doubt they will sell product.  Maybe enough to cover their initial print run but not the total time investment.  As a whole it will be a failbomb.  Too many people got screwed with their d20 product.

Quote from: Sommerjon;514485I have no doubt they will sell product.  Maybe enough to cover their initial print run but not the total time investment.  As a whole it will be a failbomb.  Too many people got screwed with their d20 product.

I couldn't disagree more.

Amongst my own club, Warmachine is catching more momentum since the announcement of the RPG.

I think it's going to be a nice addition.

Also, as an aside, I'd just like to make sure everyone knows about Colossals.  Across the board its better to get these games going if you're doing them all at once.