Some people in ASOIAF believe in gods, and some don't (Sandor Clegane, a bunch of the Night Watch, etc.) Whether the gods exist remains an open question, as is the question of whether they are actually answering prayers.

ASOIAF is mostly monotheist / henotheist, btw, at least in Westeros. The seven are no more separate gods than the Holy Spirit and Jesus are in Catholicism (in fact, the relationship between the parts is identical).

The god with the most evidence for his existence is Rh'llor. Melisandre clearly has some sort of magical power, which she attributes to him. Still, she comes from Asshai and it might be a cover for witchcraft except that Thoros of Myr, a guy who notoriously has no magic at all at the start of the series, is able to bring Beric Dondarrion and Catelyn Stark back to life basically by accident (and is then able to continue doing so).

Spoileriffic batman!

Fuck people who care about spoilers.

Really, we're not going to start enforcing "spoiler policies" around here.  If someone wants to put spoiler warnings in their post, that's fine; but I'm not going to go apeshit about it.

RPGPundit

Well, excuse me, i'm sure.

Quote from: Pseudoephedrine;466109Fuck people who care about spoilers.

That's incredibly dickish. Would it seriously kill you to write spoiler before posting one?

Quote from: danbuter;466151That's incredibly dickish. Would it seriously kill you to write spoiler before posting one?

Would it kill you to engage with a work of art in a state other than total ignorance of it?

Before we get too worked up about "spoilers", we may want to remember that the "spoiler" here was something that happened in a book that was published in the year 2000 - over 10 years ago.

It's one thing to say something about something that hasn't happened yet or about a book that just got released.  It's another to whine because 10 years later somebody mentions something about a book that's been out over a decade because you haven't gotten around to reading it yet.

More "spoilers":
* Harry kills Voldemort, marries the Weasely girl
* Vader is really Luke's father
* The martians die from getting a cold
* Beowulf kills the shit out of Grendel
* Jesus dies but is ressurrected

There is that as well.

Let me clarify for the hard of reading.

my "spoileriffic batman!" post was a statement of fact.

It was not -

A) A knock on pseudo.

B) A comment on the pros and cons of spoilers generally, nor

C) was it anything about fucking site policy, so i dunno what Pundit was whittering on about.

Quote from: jgants;466154Before we get too worked up about "spoilers", we may want to remember that the "spoiler" here was something that happened in a book that was published in the year 2000 - over 10 years ago.

Except on this very page someone is talking about reading book one. Oh wait, I forgot what site this is. Civility isn't needed.

Quote from: danbuter;466157Except on this very page someone is talking about reading book one. Oh wait, I forgot what site this is. Civility isn't needed.

So if we're talking about the One Ring RPG and someone mentions they finally got around to reading The Hobbit after 74 years, it instantly becomes rude to mention how Thorin gets killed?

There's no "statute of limitations" then?  All conversation should just stop no matter how old the work is being discussed?

Does this work for non-fiction as well?  Can we freely discuss Watergate, or do I need to make sure no one is reading a book about Nixon first?

The whole concept is silly.  Particularly in this case, since it is not only one of the more popular fantasy series of books, but has been adapted to two different RPGs already with plenty of threads on every RPG site talking about adapting it to different systems.  If you are reading an old and popular book that tends to get adapted to RPGs and don't want to be spoiled, the onus is kind of on you to avoid threads when the topic comes up.

Talk about it all you want. Just don't be too lazy to type spoilers before you do. I know that's really difficult for you, and I wouldn't want you to strain yourself, but it would be courteous.

Also, Rosebud was Kane's sled.

JG

they bring Jesus back