Quote from: Benoist;414939Needs a pipe!

But perhaps something along these lines?

Quote from: Benoist;414950OK. I fully admit I haven't been paying attention. Nina is not a gamer, then?

I can't recall a single post made to the RPG section of the site that wasn't 'official'. Then again, i probably only scan 1% of the RPG threads over there, so my sample is woefully short.

Put it this way, i'm not surprised.

Quote from: Cole;414952This is perplexing to me. How does that work?

Well, I don't think you have to be a gamer to enforce RPGnet rules.

Why you've want to is a separate matter. She has friends there who happen to game, which makes sense for someone who wants to hang out there, but running the place? That I've never fully understood.

Quote from: RPGPundit;414890I mean shit, If I'm France and Edwards is Great Britain, then Gleichman must be like, Serbia or something. He's a non-starter, a non-entity that never amounted to anything.

I never claimed to be anything, and in fact I've always was upfront in stating that I'm unimportant in this hobby. I'm just a GM and player, one of millions. With opinions that may be right or wrong. And either way, it's a small thing because we're talking about small things.


But you, that is a different matter. You wanted to be Kingmaker at least if not King. Better than anyone else on the whole Internet (which is a sick goal if you think about it). But it didn't turn out that way.

Mearls, who you agree is a Swine owns your pet game. It is he and not you who decided what 4E was. Your Hero Dancy turned on you, calling you and yours the past and pointing to your foe as the future.

And after all the brown nosing you did for both Dancy and D20. What a shame.

Now, as much as Edwards- you're a laughing stock across the Internet. For playing the drooling rabid puppy barking. Driven by ego and lacking any the virtues of a good let alone great man. I'd pity you, if you're entire online image wasn't fake.


But remain great in your own mind, completely unaware of the dangers of hurbis and its costs for as long as you can. Even as a online joke, one cannot be as you without tainting your soul.

QuoteMeanwhile, Swine-Theory games have all but disappeared from the radar.

That is a lie, and will be a lie as long as 4E D&D remains the top of the gaming world.

I know you have trouble keeping track of reality. But remember? Mearls == Swine == 4E D&D. That is something you've agreed with, I can't imagine why you forgot. Oh wait, yes of course- your ego. It tends to backtrack and spin all the time.

Now 4E may go the way of 2E and be replaced by a better game. For something else we agree on is that the theory that spawned it was flawed. But that will happen due to market forces, not because of you.

In the same way Edwards can't claim anything worthwhile because Mearls has all the credit, you fail as well since the market rules the outcome here- not a online blowhard.

I'll give you therpgsite for what it's worth. It was never a victory condition in the Swine War, but I understand why you tried to make it one- keeping it open is the one thing you do control after all. It's hard work, and you deserve respect for it, for it is easily a far better site than rpgnet.

I mean that honestly, although given what you think of rpgnet- perhaps you'll view this as damning with faint praise. And perhaps it is at that.



You could have handled this so much better. But I understand why you didn't. A good wise post would have had a few heads nodding and a short post count. But that wouldn't do.

You of all people understand that only the most extreme statements draw attention. You of all people understand that the rational man is forgotten online. You of all people know know that only bile attracts comment. You of all people know that the big lie is the best lie.

And because I know you understand and use this knowledge to your own ends- is why I know that you are no friend of the rpg hobby.

And you could have been. If only because it has so few.

Quote from: Imperator;414876Dude, again, this is really hypocritical and absurd on your part, Jeff. No one behaves like that, so I can't see the point of demanding that fictitious integrity from someone when I am pretty sure you have different behaviours according to the place you are at.

Yet my behavior still abides by my own personal integrity, regardless of where I am. Just because you are allowed to do something depending on your location, does not give credibility to the action.

Just because Levi can encourage cross-forum shenanigans outside of RPGnet does not excuse that. Since when he is at RPGnet he has used his Mod position to punish those who have behaved in a similar manner, I believe it would behoove him to maintain higher standards when he is outside of RPGnet. Otherwise, he is being a hypocrite.

Quote from: Dan Davenport;414953Nope, not unless you count trying gaming a handful of times. I think it probably does say a lot about the influence of Tangency that a non-gamer is qualified to be an Admin at RPGnet.

Hm. Does say a lot indeed.

Welcome back, Brian. This thread is now the best in RPGsite history.

Quote from: D-503;414489Out of passing interest, how many of you cunts are just resentful because they banned you?

I ask because I care.

Open's all right, the main problem with it is a massive overemphasis on consumerism rather than anything mentioned here.

Tangency would be better closed.  I also find it extraordinary that they have Porn Monday and regular porn discussions given the general tenor of the site.  I never wanted moderation, but if it's there Porn Monday is exactly the sort of thing I'd moderate into oblivion.

It's an rpg site, why does it need a regular porn discussion thread?

Oh, and for the record, I'm a big fan of Levi.  I disagree with him about this place, but people can disagree.  I still have huge time for him.

This thread has seriously grown since I last read it, but just thought I'd go on record here to say I have never been banned from RPG.net, because I've never posted there.

Quote from: Cole;414954But perhaps something along these lines?

You got it. Perfect.

Quote from: Levi Kornelsen;414525I'm not sure what you want me to respond to, precisely.

I mean, judgments have been thrown at me.  Some are accurate to one degree or another, some aren't.  The accurate ones sting a bit, the others don't.  And, well, I don't act the same way in church as I do in a nightclub, I don't think the codes of behavior expected in different places somehow ought to be identical.  I also think that the culture here is mainly one of being the loudest asshole in the room, which makes it a great site for discussions of Forge-Love vs. Forge-Hate, since "loudest asshole" is basically what those discussions always end up being anyway.  Call that whatever you want.

Judgments have been thrown at the site where I volunteer, and the way it manages it's shit.  Cool.  Those throwing said insults aren't posters there, for the most part, so there's no response really needed - If you care about the environment there, contact me there.  If you're not a poster there, your opinions on how we manage our shit are yours; enjoy them, revel in them, carry on with them.  But they aren't my problem.

Honestly, where I'm concerned this shit is completely true, can't argue one bit. I can't stand RPG.net so they really shouldn't be concerned I suppose. I do think describing forum shit as "culture" is giving it a bit too much weight, but whatever, semantics and all. I've always found Levi when posting here to be at least willing to give the appearance of being open-minded (edit: how prophetic), and I can't know much more than that about the feller.

Quote from: One Horse Town;414967Welcome back, Brian. This thread is now the best in RPGsite history.

Just saw the rpgsite source traffic at my site and wondered what it was about. Couldn't resist a reply to the persona who runs this site.

How are things going?

Quote from: gleichman;414978How are things going?

Oddly.

Quote from: Dan Davenport;414958Well, I don't think you have to be a gamer to enforce RPGnet rules.

Why you've want to is a separate matter. She has friends there who happen to game, which makes sense for someone who wants to hang out there, but running the place? That I've never fully understood.

The idea that a non-gamer would want to listen to a bunch of gamers jabber, even about non game-related junk, is all that seemed odd. But I suppose I can see how over time it could happen if you were the non-gamer friend of a bunch of people and that's the main place they talked online.

When on occasion I do visit RPG.net, I only look at the RPG threads anyway (I never really bother to log in.)

Quote from: Levi Kornelsen;414621Neither, exactly.

I can't discuss anything comfortably when I expect to be called a sack of shit again at any moment (See: Pundit on the volunteer team I'm part of).  It may be a weird defense, but there it is.  Apologies to you, though.

Honestly Levi, I would have expected you to be a bit more thick-skinned than this. Why would you care what some anonymous guy on the theRPGsite calls you (if it were to happen)? Brother, do you not see by the several posters here, mostly old-timers who remember when you spent more time here and especially your awesome debate thread, who are trying to tell you that many of us, perhaps even most, have enough respect for you that we'd like to see your input more often? (man do I love run-on sentences) I get that we're annoying you with our RPG.net bashing, but really, you can't handle someone poking you with a stick every once in awhile? I'm surprised truly.

Edit: Now that I've read further I see it's because the respect is misplaced.

Quote from: gleichman;414978How are things going?

Other than cross-forum drama, Pundit ego, and a revelation that an RPGnet admin is a non-gamer - super!