Quote from: One Horse Town;414882Two people believed it. Both have claimed victory.

Two people having delusions are still having delusions. There is a big bunch on people forming the Flat Earth Society. The Earth is still round.

Quote from: RPGPundit;414890As for "defeat", its relative.  WotC is a mess right now, but as even Gleichman recognizes it has fuck all to do with Edwards, and everything to do with the incompetence of the people running WotC.

I don't see how WotC is a mess, and you don't provide any proof, as usual, to sustain such a point. As far as we all know, 4e is selling and is profitable. That is far away from being a mess of any kind.

QuoteThe Forge has been resoundingly defeated in the war of ideas.

Show me proof of the existance of that war. There is no such a ar, because playing D&D 4e doesn't preclude you from playing any other game. I'm running RuneQuest and CoC thse days, but I also run indie games. And it's the same for a lot of people who don't know and don't care about a war that does not exist. You are the one making the assertion that there is a war, the burden of the proof is on you.

QuoteIn the meantime, what is the major force in RPG-thinking that has arisen in these last few years? The Old School Renaissance; which, whatever issues I may have with it aside, is a bastion of rejecting the mentality of everything the Forge stands for and promoting exactly the kind of Regular Roleplaying I have been defending all along.

The OSR is another blip on the radar, just as the Forge, RPG.net and this place are. Compared to the RPGA, the OSR is a wart. And then, the RPGA is a small fraction of the total number of gamers out there. So the OSR has exactly zero influence. Most people play the most recent version of D&D, or PF, or maybe WoD, if they don't care about changing editions. They neither know nor play other games, be them OSR, indie, or any other.

Again, you need to provide some proof, as Ron Edwards should. Neither of you will be able to do that, I think. Of course you can say that you won the War, as you can say that you are the Queen Elizabeth II with a moustache.

Quote from: Dan Davenport;414922That said, I hate to see Levi dogpiled here. In my experience, he really is a good guy.

Hi Dan, good to see you here!

You reap what you sow. Levi has been somewhat inconsistant in his views, dependant on where he's been posting. I think he's acknowledged that now.

Quote from: Dan Davenport;414922That said, I hate to see Levi dogpiled here. In my experience, he really is a good guy.

Hi there, Dan. Welcome back. And duly noted.

Quote from: Koltar;414635After reading the asbove message from Dan Davenport , I then looked at Trouble Tickets for all the threads his name is connected to .

 One thing I noticed: Jeez Luh-Weez that Nina is a cold Harsh Bitch! She must REALLY dislike Dan Davenport.


- Ed C.

Nina affects a "professional voice" while modding that, yes, can make her sound rather cold.

That said, she has seemed rather focused on my activities for months now.

Quote from: Dan Davenport;414929That said, she has seemed rather focused on my activities for months now.

Oh dear, i'm doomed.

Write some reviews on here Dan, then I have absolutely no reason to ever look at Rpg.NET again!

Quote from: Imperator;414923Again, you need to provide some proof, as Ron Edwards should. Neither of you will be able to do that, I think. Of course you can say that you won the War, as you can say that you are the Queen Elizabeth II with a moustache.

Pundit, if you ever get tired of being Bill the Butcher, you could give this a go:

HA! That avatar is AWESOME. LOL

Needs a pipe!

Quote from: One Horse Town;414932Oh dear, i'm doomed.

Heh. Could be. Sorry, I'm kinda out of the loop now.

I gotta say, though, I find it especially galling to have been run out of the clubhouse in part by someone who isn't even a gamer.

(Yeah, I went there, Nina. Sorry. It's true.)

Quote from: EBM;414933Write some reviews on here Dan, then I have absolutely no reason to ever look at Rpg.NET again!

Heh. That's very kind of you, EBM. Unfortunately, I have plenty of review copies right now for which I've promised reviews on RPGnet, and I'm a man of my word, the opinions of the Hivemind notwithstanding.

Quote from: Benoist;414939HA! That avatar is AWESOME. LOL

Needs a pipe!

I figured "done is better than good" in this case

Quote from: Dan Davenport;414941I gotta say, though, I find it especially galling to have been run out of the clubhouse in part by someone who isn't even a gamer.

That's no great surprise to anyone who has been paying attention.

Quote from: One Horse Town;414949That's no great surprise to anyone who has been paying attention.

OK. I fully admit I haven't been paying attention. Nina is not a gamer, then?

Quote from: Benoist;414950OK. I fully admit I haven't been paying attention. Nina is not a gamer, then?

This is perplexing to me. How does that work?

Quote from: Benoist;414950OK. I fully admit I haven't been paying attention. Nina is not a gamer, then?

Nope, not unless you count trying gaming a handful of times. I think it probably does say a lot about the influence of Tangency that a non-gamer is qualified to be an Admin at RPGnet.