Quote from: D-503;414489Out of passing interest, how many of you cunts are just resentful because they banned you?

I ask because I care.

I haven't been banned, but I have scarcely ever posted there - I don't actually remember my username at this point. I read the odd thread from time to time but I don't find the place appealing. It reminds me for reasons I can't put my finger on of the feeling I've gotten sometimes of walking into a gaming store, everyone stares as if I ought not be there or am going to steal something, I get creeped out and leave.

Occasionally someone will link a thread that'll turn out to be interesting, but if i just go looking, I usually don't see anything to make me want to spend much time there.

This is just speaking for myself, of course.

Quote from: D-503;414489Oh, and for the record, I'm a big fan of Levi.

I disagree with Levi on a lot of stuff, sometimes vehemently, but I respect him (and said as much in my suicide-by-mod on RPGnet). I suspect he's a bit of an hypocrite sometimes, but I'm not sure he does that out of sheer malice rather than a concern to have exchanges instead of fistfights. I tell things like they are to his face. He does what he wants with it from there.

Quote from: Cole;414492I haven't been banned, but I have scarcely ever posted there - I don't actually remember my username at this point. I read the odd thread from time to time but I don't find the place appealing. It reminds me for reasons I can't put my finger on of the feeling I've gotten sometimes of walking into a gaming store, everyone stares as if I ought not be there or am going to steal something, I get creeped out and leave.

Occasionally someone will link a thread that'll turn out to be interesting, but if i just go looking, I usually don't see anything to make me want to spend much time there.

This is just speaking for myself, of course.

To be honest, it's therpgsite, I feel left out if I don't call people cunts occasionally.

I get irritated by every forum.  Story Games pisses me off with its excessive niceness.  Therpgsite with the bloody negativity.  Rpg.net with the constant fucking consumerism.

On the other hand, I love the positivity and sheer pleasantness of Story Games, the free speech and freewheeling nature of therpgsite and the sheer depth of knowledge of everything out there one finds on rpg.net.

When the irritation outweighs the love, I stop posting in a place for a while.  Story Games actually hardly ever irritates me, but I have very little to contribute there so I don't post there much anyway.

Honestly, I just resent Tangency. What a fucking circle jerk. If Tangency was shut down, RPGNet would be a decent site. But, since it's open, it bleeds over into everything else.

Quote from: Benoist;414493I disagree with Levi on a lot of stuff, sometimes vehemently, but I respect him (and said as much in my suicide-by-mod on RPGnet). I suspect he's a bit of an hypocrite sometimes, but I'm not sure he does that out of sheer malice rather than a concern to have exchanges instead of fistfights. I tell things like they are to his face. He does what he wants with it from there.

We all are sometimes.  I think Levi tries to be a good guy and I respect that.

Quote from: D-503;414498To be honest, it's therpgsite, I feel left out if I don't call people cunts occasionally.

I feel you, it's just a slow afternoon and it's just my response to the RPGnet question.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;414422Hopefully he'll have the stones to respond to what's been said here.

I'm not sure what you want me to respond to, precisely.

I mean, judgments have been thrown at me.  Some are accurate to one degree or another, some aren't.  The accurate ones sting a bit, the others don't.  And, well, I don't act the same way in church as I do in a nightclub, I don't think the codes of behavior expected in different places somehow ought to be identical.  I also think that the culture here is mainly one of being the loudest asshole in the room, which makes it a great site for discussions of Forge-Love vs. Forge-Hate, since "loudest asshole" is basically what those discussions always end up being anyway.  Call that whatever you want.

Judgments have been thrown at the site where I volunteer, and the way it manages it's shit.  Cool.  Those throwing said insults aren't posters there, for the most part, so there's no response really needed - If you care about the environment there, contact me there.  If you're not a poster there, your opinions on how we manage our shit are yours; enjoy them, revel in them, carry on with them.  But they aren't my problem.

Quote from: D-503;414500We all are sometimes.  I think Levi tries to be a good guy and I respect that.

Thanks, man.  But, do know- I don't need a defender.

Quote from: Levi Kornelsen;414525Thanks, man.  But, do know- I don't need a defender.

I know that Levi.  The point is that I don't want to stand by and not comment when I disagree with what's being said about someone.  That diminishes me.

Odd as it may sound, it's not about you, it's about me.

Edit:  On that particular post I was just continuing the conversation.  To be honest, I thought you'd left the thread.  We were just talking about you while you were out of the room.

Quote from: One Horse Town;414438Since when was this a thread about RPGnet? Weren't we happy enough ripping the Forge a new one?

Hey, I hate rpgnet, but I don't dislike it more than any other shitty forum. When Prodigy shutdown 12 years ago, I gave up on forums completely, until I found this beautiful site.

Personally, I don't have any fucking interest, at all, in going to a site with moderators that become visible for anything other than harassment or hacking. That's it. I cant imagine spending time on rpgnet; it feels like an elementary school class with fearful teachers due to an overactive pta. Really, it is just run by pussies trying to climb back into that sort of environment.

Quote from: Levi Kornelsen;414525Thanks, man.  But, do know- I don't need a defender.

I actually wasn't attacking you.

Quote from: Levi Kornelsen;414525And, well, I don't act the same way in church as I do in a nightclub, I don't think the codes of behavior expected in different places somehow ought to be identical.

RPGnet and the RPG Site are both gaming message boards, so your comparison somewhat fails by my reckoning.

Quote from: Levi Kornelsen;414525I also think that the culture here is mainly one of being the loudest asshole in the room, which makes it a great site for discussions of Forge-Love vs. Forge-Hate, since "loudest asshole" is basically what those discussions always end up being anyway. Call that whatever you want.

A steaming pile of bullshit.

Quote from: Benoist;414542A steaming pile of bullshit.

I think he's at least partly right on both counts, actually.

When in Rome and all that.

It's of course ignoring the many threads here that don't collect the flies, rubber-neckers and morgue attendants from other sites - because it's the arsehole threads that collect arseholes from those other sites. Oh, sure, they're here to right wrongs, restore the balance, use the Force etc, but pleasant folk don't tend to jump in feet first at sites they wouldn't normally frequent to 'right wrongs'. that's the crusader mentality. It's like Pundit going over to storygames and telling them they know nothing about sandbox games, getting huffy, throwing insults and generally carrying on. It would be like me going to Vincent Baker's blog and telling him he's a sick fuck. That is crusading and trying to force your agenda on others.

We both have places we can be as opinionated as we like - even be as uninformed as we like, but as soon as you cross the line and start bringing that shit to somewhere diametrically oposed to your viewpoint, you're an evangeliser and arsehole.

It's the nature of the beast. Keep your head below the parapet and the arseholes keep quiet. Pop that head up and say something contentious (IE arguably be an arsehole yourself) and others come calling.

Edit: None of this is aimed at Levi BTW, just folk like Teataine and his ilk who always seem to turn up at regular intervals.

Quote from: Benoist;414542RPGnet and the RPG Site are both gaming message boards, so your comparison somewhat fails by my reckoning.

*Shrug*

You think there's some imperative that they ought to have the same culture?

Because I can see benefits in variety, and nothing at all on the side of identical-ness to set against that.

It is a wonder that anybody still falls for the cute-turtle Levi trick.

Man, Levi, a mod at RPG.Net? With bannings?

Quick tell me, what does a banning that needs to be then discussed for 23 pages accomplish?

I tell you what: drama around the person of the mods.

They NEED bannings. Some, to feel powerful, Nina could be a candidate.

Others, like Levi, to be in the center of attention and showing off the awesomely considerate and fair way he uses his power that he supposedly does not enjoy, but clings to like a fiend. And discusses it over and over. And over.

So, if I follow my own reasoning...Levi LOVES that people talk about him. Damn! I fell for his trap!

Enough of this!

Quote from: Levi Kornelsen;414525I'm not sure what you want me to respond to, precisely.

If you could make a yelp when the rotten cabbages hit you that would be great.