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[3.x D&D] No Giant Rats?

Started by Drohem, March 09, 2010, 02:36:26 PM

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Werekoala

Isn't "dire" just a template anyway? And in 3e Monster Manual, rats and such are in the back under "vermin". I never really got into 3.5 so that may be one of the things they changed.
Lan Astaslem


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Drohem

Quote from: Werekoala;366411Isn't "dire" just a template anyway? And in 3e Monster Manual, rats and such are in the back under "vermin". I never really got into 3.5 so that may be one of the things they changed.

Yes, a 'dire' animal is like a normal animal on steroids.  

Dire Rat

Rat (Animal)

I'm going to scale down the dire rats' disease, damage, and hit points.

Ian Absentia

Can one play a dire human?

!i!

Drohem

Quote from: Ian Absentia;366422Can one play a dire human?

In 3.x D&D, humans are not classified as animals, but, rather, they are classified as humanoids.

Ian Absentia

I guess what I was asking was for clarification whether the "dire" classification was ever published a template or not.  I don't see it as a template (à la Celestial or Vampire, etc.) in the back of the 3.0 Monster Manual.

!i!

Grymbok

Quote from: Ian Absentia;365873One of my favorite moments from my early, misbegotten days of 1e AD&D:

   GM: Okay, in the room you find a giant rat trap.
Player: Wait...is that a giant rat-trap, for a trap for giant rats?
GM: ...They're the same thing, dumbass!

!i!

(P.S. I need to check -- are there rules for dire horses?)

I remember in one of our 1e games we encountered a baby Giant, which generated a debate on how that might differ from a giant baby.

Drohem

Quote from: Ian Absentia;366431I guess what I was asking was for clarification whether the "dire" classification was ever published a template or not.  I don't see it as a template (à la Celestial or Vampire, etc.) in the back of the 3.0 Monster Manual.

Oh, sorry.  No, it's not a template like ghost or vampire that can be layered over something.  It is just another entry in the Monster Manual, with several types outlined.

Narf the Mouse

...Dire Humans sounds both silly and awesome. I see something like a Half-Orc, only without the Orc.
The main problem with government is the difficulty of pressing charges against its directors.

Given a choice of two out of three M&Ms, the human brain subconsciously tries to justify the two M&Ms chosen as being superior to the M&M not chosen.

Ian Absentia

If push comes to shove, I suppose a "dire human" is probably an ogre.  Silly applications aside, it's curious that a "Dire" template was never created.

!i!

Narf the Mouse

Quote from: Ian Absentia;366635If push comes to shove, I suppose a "dire human" is probably an ogre.  Silly applications aside, it's curious that a "Dire" template was never created.

!i!
That makes a wacky sort of sense.
The main problem with government is the difficulty of pressing charges against its directors.

Given a choice of two out of three M&Ms, the human brain subconsciously tries to justify the two M&Ms chosen as being superior to the M&M not chosen.

winkingbishop

Quote from: Ian Absentia;366635If push comes to shove, I suppose a "dire human" is probably an ogre.  Silly applications aside, it's curious that a "Dire" template was never created.

!i!

Sasquatch.
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Narf the Mouse

Quote from: winkingbishop;366735Sasquatch.
No, that's a Dire Dwarf. All the hair, you see...
The main problem with government is the difficulty of pressing charges against its directors.

Given a choice of two out of three M&Ms, the human brain subconsciously tries to justify the two M&Ms chosen as being superior to the M&M not chosen.

Werekoala

Reminds me of the Robot Chicken bit about "Attack of the Giant Midget".

He was normal human sized.
Lan Astaslem


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