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D&D, noticeable 'trend'....

Started by Koltar, December 02, 2009, 11:57:40 PM

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Maddman

Here's my anecdote

The FLGS carries 4e and pathfinder, both seem about equally popular.  Same relfection in people looking for groups, though I see 4e requests slightly more often.  The local B&N carries 4e and White Wolf, with a smattering of other products.  Indie games are growing in popularity, especially Dread.  I haven't seen any interest in OSR or AD&D games.  The only guys I knew playing AD&D were doing it for Dark Sun, and most grumbled about the rules.

As far as I'm concerned, I just want more people gaming.  :)
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Koltar

Quote from: Maddman;347174As far as I'm concerned, I just want more people gaming.  :)

That statement I will always agree with - no matter what edition they are playing.



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Girl

Quote from: Koltar;347175That statement I will always agree with - no matter what edition they are playing.

I dont believe you

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I dont believe you either

Tommy Brownell

Quote from: Ronin;347020Do you ever listen to yourself? If you did, you might have a better idea as to why I take time to correct and chastise your ignorant ramblings. Besides you intiated this phenomenon. You can end this. But you wont, and youve created a monster. That you cant/wont stop and neither will I.

That's...just kinda sad, really.
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Fiasco

Quote from: Ronin;347020Do you ever listen to yourself? If you did, you might have a better idea as to why I take time to correct and chastise your ignorant ramblings. Besides you intiated this phenomenon. You can end this. But you wont, and youve created a monster. That you cant/wont stop and neither will I.

Dude, you come across as an obsessive/stalker just looking for an excuse to jump in. And thats coming from a disinterested 3rd party.  In another thread Koltar legitmately asked which 1E Forgotten Realms handbook was being referred too and in your ignorance, you leapt at the opportunity to make a yet another petty (and completely incorrect) attack.

Balbinus

I'd also like to see Ronin stop whaling on Koltar.  Koltar and I have argued often enough, but there's fair argument and there's crossing the line, and Ronin's definitely crossed it.

Frankly, his posts in this thread come across as slightly deranged.  Ronin, dude, is that really the tone you want for your posts?

Koltar

Quote from: Balbinus;347366I'd also like to see Ronin stop whaling on Koltar.  Koltar and I have argued often enough, but there's fair argument and there's crossing the line, and Ronin's definitely crossed it.

Frankly, his posts in this thread come across as slightly deranged.  Ronin, dude, is that really the tone you want for your posts?

Yeah, Balbinus, you and I may have argued on topics in the past - but I still have an impression of you as a pretty civil and reasonable guy.


- Ed C.
The return of \'You can\'t take the Sky From me!\'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUn-eN8mkDw&feature=rec-fresh+div

This is what a really cool FANTASY RPG should be like :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-WnjVUBDbs

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Koltar

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EDIT /UPDATE:

Okay, a bit of an update here to what I posted last December.

Dungeons & Dragons 4/e has seemingly caught up with PATHFINDER /OGL 3.5 compatible books as far as sales. It may even have started to take the lead by a smidgeon.

The main reason I can see for this is the weekly D&D 4/e enounter sessions on Wednesday nights.
That has really helped to churn the intereste level in 4th edition. Also, when our store became a participant in that WotC sent has a huge-ass DUNGEONS & DRAGONS ENCOUNTERS PLAYED HERE sign to hang from our ceiling. It's Huge. (We're talking really, really big)
  That magilla really sticks out when viewed at a distance from our front door.

So..the 'trend' that I mentioned or referred to in my OP has now shifted quite a bit.


- Ed C.
The return of \'You can\'t take the Sky From me!\'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUn-eN8mkDw&feature=rec-fresh+div

This is what a really cool FANTASY RPG should be like :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-WnjVUBDbs

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ggroy

Are you referring to core book sales, like the 4E PHB1/DMG1/MM1, PHB2, PHB3?

Koltar

Quote from: ggroy;388349Are you referring to core book sales, like the 4E PHB1/DMG1/MM1, PHB2, PHB3?

When I talk about stuff like this I'm talking about ALL Fourth Edition books & related supplements. If it has the 4th edition logo on it and its published by WotC -then thats what I'm talking about.

Like the anecdote I mentioned a few weeks back - kids buys the two-book packake of D&D 4/e PHB 1 & 2 because he just played in an Encounter night. Thats part of a noticeable trend or uptick in fourth edition sales.

Like I said before, it may not be my favorite game - but if I notice a sales trend during my shifts - then I'm honest about it when I mention it.


- Ed C.
The return of \'You can\'t take the Sky From me!\'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUn-eN8mkDw&feature=rec-fresh+div

This is what a really cool FANTASY RPG should be like :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-WnjVUBDbs

Still here, still alive, at least Seven years now...

Peregrin

Are a lot of these people new players?

I spoke to my shop about getting some RPGA events going to get more people in the store, but they were worried it would attract all of the middle-age blobs and weird people that came around when they used to have Living Greyhawk campaigns.
"In a way, the Lands of Dream are far more brutal than the worlds of most mainstream games. All of the games set there have a bittersweetness that I find much harder to take than the ridiculous adolescent posturing of so-called \'grittily realistic\' games. So maybe one reason I like them as a setting is because they are far more like the real world: colourful, crazy, full of strange creatures and people, eternal and yet changing, deeply beautiful and sometimes profoundly bitter."

TheShadow

Quote from: Peregrin;388372Are a lot of these people new players?

I spoke to my shop about getting some RPGA events going to get more people in the store, but they were worried it would attract all of the middle-age blobs and weird people that came around when they used to have Living Greyhawk campaigns.

A game store attracting more people? Gads, some of them over 30 and overweight? Better nip that shit in the bud!
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Peregrin

Quote from: The_Shadow;388377A game store attracting more people? Gads, some of them over 30 and overweight? Better nip that shit in the bud!

Unfortunately, being smart isn't a requirement for owning a game-store.  

I don't agree with the management but that's what they said to me.
"In a way, the Lands of Dream are far more brutal than the worlds of most mainstream games. All of the games set there have a bittersweetness that I find much harder to take than the ridiculous adolescent posturing of so-called \'grittily realistic\' games. So maybe one reason I like them as a setting is because they are far more like the real world: colourful, crazy, full of strange creatures and people, eternal and yet changing, deeply beautiful and sometimes profoundly bitter."

Seanchai

Quote from: Peregrin;388372I spoke to my shop about getting some RPGA events going to get more people in the store, but they were worried it would attract all of the middle-age blobs and weird people that came around when they used to have Living Greyhawk campaigns.

I would imagine they're less concerned about blobs than they are about weird people. The type of gamer who comes in and starts their own private edition war, who feels the need to comment on strangers' games and gaming habits, who stand at the counter and recount - in detail - their latest gaming exploits or Magic decks, who paw all over the merchandise without buying it, etc..

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Koltar

Quote from: The_Shadow;388377A game store attracting more people? Gads, some of them over 30 and overweight? Better nip that shit in the bud!

...also some are UNDER 30 and are kids, and others are in their early 20s and look damn good.
(Did I ever mention that in the Cincinnati/Dayton area single women out number single men ? Probably why there are so many women and girl gamers in the southwestern Ohio area)


- Ed C.
The return of \'You can\'t take the Sky From me!\'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUn-eN8mkDw&feature=rec-fresh+div

This is what a really cool FANTASY RPG should be like :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-WnjVUBDbs

Still here, still alive, at least Seven years now...