Quote from: Aos;293163Not to disagree, but i would imagine that a significant part of the people participating in this resurgence didn't have to purchase much of what is available at KN or Ebay. They just had to dig through some boxes in the attik- or take a free retro clone from online.

Or anything they did need to buy, they bought, and that was that: "Hey, I need to collect all of the core rule books and supplements for OD&D!" (*logs into DriveThruRPG . . . five minutes pass . . .*) "Okay! That's the complete canon!"

I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, please, but there isn't a huge amount of new material published commercially, with (relatively sophisticated) commercial production values. A fair amount of fan stuff, yes - I am a habitué of Dragonsfoot, so I hear about some of this - but Fight On! and Knockspell are more akin to the old school gamers' modern incarnations of Pegasus and The Dragon.

Ok dammit, I grabbed 2 and 3 given the comments here and all.
Besides, I can't let my fellow nerds be beaten by the frickin NHRA or any place with "Ministries" in the title now can I?

They just go in a straight line!  Its like a more boring version of NASCAR.  Which makes it.. super boring.

Damn Europeans at least get some cool racing with Rally and F1s on things that do more than go straight or drive around an oval I tells ya!

Quote from: The Shaman;293342....but Fight On! and Knockspell are more akin to the old school gamers' modern incarnations of Pegasus and The Dragon.

I see that as a good point. I'm not interested in most of the "modern production values" I see in RPG products. Many either add little of gaming value to the product or even make the product harder to use (e.g. printing text over pictures, repetitive page boarders that waste ink when you print the PDF, etc.)

Quote from: The Shaman;293342I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, please, but there isn't a huge amount of new material published commercially, with (relatively sophisticated) commercial production values. A fair amount of fan stuff, yes - I am a habitué of Dragonsfoot, so I hear about some of this - but Fight On! and Knockspell are more akin to the old school gamers' modern incarnations of Pegasus and The Dragon.

As an original subscriber to Pegasus magazine both Knockspell and Fight On! are above Pegasus in quality. Right now I say they are on par with the early issues of Dragon Magazine. Some areas are slightly worse and other are slightly better.

The main limitation will be the expense of interior color vs grayscale.

Quote from: Captain Rufus;293359Besides, I can't let my fellow nerds be beaten by the frickin NHRA or any place with "Ministries" in the title now can I?

They just go in a straight line!  Its like a more boring version of NASCAR.  Which makes it.. super boring.

Damn Europeans at least get some cool racing with Rally and F1s on things that do more than go straight or drive around an oval I tells ya!

Americans excel at going fast in a straight line - muscle cars are "point-and-shoot."

Europeans excel at going fast in the real world.

Quote from: estar;293386As an original subscriber to Pegasus magazine both Knockspell and Fight On! are above Pegasus in quality.

Are you talking about production values, or content?

Quote from: The Shaman;293394Are you talking about production values, or content?

Both. The quality of content in Pegasus was very uneven as well as production value.

Thanks, Captain Rufus, everyone. I hope those of you who bought stuff enjoy it.

Mrk, good to get your feedback. I like the material in our magazine, but if you have some better stuff, send it along! We can always use more good ideas.

Likely issue #7 will be devoted to Professor Barker. I don't know what we can do as far as special content, interviews, etc. but we're talking to some people about it already.

Quote from: Calithena;293695Likely issue #7 will be devoted to Professor Barker. I don't know what we can do as far as special content, interviews, etc. but we're talking to some people about it already.

Barker is a mysterious figure, now elderly and (rumour has it) unwell. History demands that someone do a comprehensive interview with him soon!

I actually get on pretty well with Phil, though I haven't talked to him lately. He has done a lot of interviews over the years but maybe it's time for one more.

I think the last interview he did was about 20 years ago so a new one would certainly be nice. Also, I'm sure I wouldn't be alone to say it would be really great to get a snapshot or two of the Professor and his legendary Tekumel archive that we've been hearing about over the years.

BTW...has anyone heard about a TV show with these two etymologist who travel around the world finding new and weird  languages? If so, I want to contact them and DEMAND that they interview the Professor!

Quote from: mrk;293765BTW...has anyone heard about a TV show with these two etymologist who travel around the world finding new and weird  languages? If so, I want to contact them and DEMAND that they interview the Professor!

um... there is a show like this? :worship:

wow. I MUST KNOW ABOUT IT!

Quote from: Pere Ubu;295429um... there is a show like this? :worship:

wow. I MUST KNOW ABOUT IT!

Yeah, exactly.  More details please, old bean.

Quote from: Aos;293163Not to disagree, but i would imagine that a significant part of the people participating in this resurgence didn't have to purchase much of what is available at KN or Ebay. They just had to dig through some boxes in the attik- or take a free retro clone from online.

this is totally correct in my case.

i've got a lot of bd&d in print form, and even more on pdf.
i still bought Labryinth Lord in book form after i got the pdf, mainly because my print Rules Cyclopedia has shown many, many years on it's cover.

i've now collected quite a bit of the pdf's and fan stuff online (including Fight On) and enjoy digging through my old notes and putting my old stuff on doc's to keep them in electronic form, not only for storage,but to print off and use again.

I never played AD&D, but I got the books. And it sounds awesome. I actually think if it were tweaked a little. It would be more balanced then 3.5 but not stale like 4th edition.

There's only a few classes, but over 9000 varaints..
There's a saving throw for everything. A saving throw against breath attacks, poison, death spells, seeing your mother naked... There's even a saving throw to not die from the shock of being ressurected!
Rogue's sneak attack was better back then as it outright multiplied damage.
Fighters were the only one who could really gain HP.
Clerics still were uber and had the best saving throws. But they weren't nearly as versatile in their spell arsenal and were a defensive class.
Wizards were still God modded. But they had the HP of a child. (I'm not kidding)
Monsters were simple. They had some cooky ability, AC, HP, and damage. They didn't have a bunch of crap about stats, and spell-like abilities that never get used.
Skillpoints did not exist. Your skills increased based off situations like stats, armor, class variant, race, blood type...

In general. AD&D is my favorite edition from a mechanics perspective. I don't know what the hell they were smoking when they thoughtup Thac0 however..