Quote from: ChrisBirch;272050Yes you do - you'll get them the same time as everyone else - should be announcing the date soon

No hurry, chief -- just making sure I didn't miss out by mistake!

QuoteWell what i'd do is just drop aspects, compelling, tags, - that leaves you with skills and fate points which can be spent to get a plus one or maybe a re-roll. I really don't think the system is broken if you lose those parts. Different, not broken, although i think the real flavour is in the aspects.

You're right -- it is.  I like the idea of using them more than fiddling with them, and therein lies the difference.  I'm sure they can still be used pretty easily without the tagging and the stuff -- "I have the 'I'm A Loner, Dottie -- A Rebel...' Aspect, so....I'll spend a Fate Point to have this guy leave me the hell alone to do my job!" and like that.

I suspect that in actual practice some of this stuff (like Compelling) might play out more naturally than mechanically -- "Sure, you like her.  And she's cute, and she likes you, and she has the plans.  But there's something about you that keeps her away...'cause you're a Loner, Dottie!  Ooooooh, BUUUURN!!"  And like that.

QuoteTo be honest once you strip it down to just the skills it's a fairly basic rpg system - just like a lot of other games out there. It's why i thought it would appeal to a wide range of people though hopefully - those who like more emphasis on story and those who want just simple mechanics.

I noticed that, and that's why I have wanted the bells-and-whistles to make sense to me -- so I can value what's special about it, what's different.

[quote[in my games I've generally avoided using stunts and let people dream up their own if they wanted them, mainly because I've done most of my own playtests with absolute rpg beginners. [/quote]Yeah, I like that better than the "Stunt Ladder" thing where you have requirements for some of 'em.  

Quotesome gm's and players get more in to compelling and tags, i've seen games with not one single compel or tag and it flowed fine.

I bet it did; I'm starting to get over my grumpiness and see how I might do that myself.

Quoteif you wanted to go down the hardcover narrative route you could just play with aspects and lose everything else.

That's interesting...hmmm.  Kind of like Over the Edge and Risius, but...different.  Only -- different, how?  Hmmm...

Quotei hear there's also a pretty nifty plot generating system in there somewhere ;-)

It's the best idea ever, in the universe, eternally, with a root beer on the side.

Okay, I get why it's 600 pages, then.

Thanks for the response.

phew....well finally you all should have got your copies of Starblazer if you pre-ordered by now and it's in the shops in the US from the week beginning July 13th (so if it isn't go buck your local store!)

I'm currently working on the Legends of Anglerre which uses all the art from the fantasy issues of Starblazer for a massive battle axe wielding fantasy version of FATE that will let you do everything from 1st level dnd style characters through to Exalted and mix the two - yep a peasant in an exalted setting who just happens to know the true name of the faerie queen...

We've got the usual goodness inside including a whole background generator for characters and something new called Future Aspects...ways to run a whole family, tons of reasons why you're looking for treasure, or other reasons to be out there doing stuff, castle sieges, massed battles that are easy to run, court intrigue and three special settings to choose from.

We've also got the story teller's screen coming out in August, followed by Mindjammer the massive transhuman space style setting, then a big campaign adventure...

Mine still hasn't arrived, but its probably stuck in the mail somewhere.

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Quote from: RPGPundit;311799Mine still hasn't arrived, but its probably stuck in the mail somewhere.

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should be with you anytime!

and folks if you've got time, we'd love your vote for Starblazer in the ENnies - yep that's right we're up for 3 awards...and if you feel like voting for Cubicle 7 as the publisher that would be a bonus of course...

http://www.ennie-awards.com/voting/ballot.asp

BEST RULES
- STARBLAZER ADVENTURES

BEST GAME
- STARBLAZER ADVENTURES

PRODUCT OF THE YEAR
- STARBLAZER ADVENTURES

FAN AWARD FOR BEST PUBLISHER
- CUBICLE 7

I purchased it on PDF and I love it. I might actually order the hardcover as well. It is 600 pages of awesome -- the feel and flavor of the game is fantastic, and well worth the price point.

It is interesting to me that FATE is such a light system overall, and yet spawns these enormous books, like Starblazer Adventures and Spirit of the Century. But that's not a criticism.

Oh, and

Quote from: ticopelp;316357I purchased it on PDF and I love it. I might actually order the hardcover as well. It is 600 pages of awesome -- the feel and flavor of the game is fantastic, and well worth the price point.

It is interesting to me that FATE is such a light system overall, and yet spawns these enormous books, like Starblazer Adventures and Spirit of the Century. But that's not a criticism.

Oh, and

thanks so much! Legends of Anglerre is the fantasy version using the artwork from the fantasy starblazer issues. It's going to be about 320 pages so we're really tightening things up! Still compatible so yes you can have fighter craft strafing fleet of galleys from which wizard throw fireballs upwards at the demons descending on them!

Quote from: S'mon;272065I'm gonna drop the Fate Points too.   Old School, mate.  

Seriously, the main thing I value in an RPG is you-are-there immersion.  Metagame resources (FPs) and novelistic devices (Aspects) seriously detract from that in play.  They may be great for author-stance story-now narrativist play, but I've learnt the hard way that's not what I want from an RPG.

This is why I've never bothered with FATE: to get it to where I would like it, I would have to drop half of the system, leaving only the skills, which in my opinion are the weakest part (A skill pyramid? Really?). At that point, I might as well be playing another game (and in this case, by that I mean Traveller).

Still no sign of my book...

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Quote from: RPGPundit;316369Still no sign of my book...

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That's because I have it.


MUHAHAHAHAHAHA.


Seriously, doesn't it take forever to get anything down there?

It varies. Kenzer's books got here in under 2 weeks. Swashbucklers of the seven skies took 3 months, and the current record is Alpha Omega which took 6 months.

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