Quote from: David Johansen;260025Still, I were Ben and Yoda sending Luke off to kill Vadar and the Emperor because they couldn't I'd probably have the good faith to mention the force lightning and how you can block it with a lightsabre.

But then that's just the prequels messing up again.

Actually, the whole movie series hinges on no one ever listening to a thing Yoda says. So he could have told them, but it would have made no difference.

Well Yoda is a bit like Lao-Tse saying : "If a man has done you wrong, do not seek revenge. Sit down by the river, and soon you will see his body being carried away by the water." Which quite a few of us would agree with, but makes for a poor story in an action movie

Quote from: David Johansen;260025Still, I were Ben and Yoda sending Luke off to kill Vadar and the Emperor because they couldn't I'd probably have the good faith to mention the force lightning and how you can block it with a lightsabre.

But then that's just the prequels messing up again.

You got to remember that these were the same guys who realized too late that the senator right under their noses - Palpatine - was a Sith Lord. I get the feeling that these two don't pay very much attention to details.

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David R

QuoteYou got to remember that these were the same guys who realized too late that the senator right under their noses - Palpatine - was a Sith Lord. I get the feeling that these two don't pay very much attention to details.

Democratic politicians of Europe had Hitler under their nose since 1933, his book was published even earlier, still nobody took any measure against Germany rebuilding their army, or annexing Austria.

And the dark force minion are supposed to be good at hide and seek.

Quote from: boulet;260096Democratic politicians of Europe had Hitler under their nose since 1933, his book was published even earlier, still nobody took any measure against Germany rebuilding their army, or annexing Austria.

Oh please, let's not drag something as complex as the politics of Europe pre WW2 into a SW discussion.

QuoteAnd the dark force minion are supposed to be good at hide and seek.

And Yoda representing the light side of the force was supposed to be good at discovering the truth.

Regards,
David R

Star Wars, Star Trek. It's all GHEY.

Quote from: Serious Paul;260106Star Wars, Star Trek. It's all GHEY.

I'd like to see you say that to Captain Kirk's face, motherfucker.


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Quote from: Jackalope;260008I mean he's pretty much kickin' ass and talking names through the entirety of RotJ.

Hm, explains why I like RotJ much more than the others and may as well have been called a heathen for saying so.

I'd still say he spends more time being a whiny little punk than being a bad ass if you take all three films into account.

Quote from: boulet;260077Well Yoda is a bit like Lao-Tse saying : "If a man has done you wrong, do not seek revenge. Sit down by the river, and soon you will see his body being carried away by the water." Which quite a few of us would agree with, but makes for a poor story in an action movie

Oh, I totally agree, it just gets a little funny after awhile.

"Train Anakin you must not. Destroy us all he will."
"Eh, I'm gonna do it anyway."
"The Emperor I suspect. Do something about this we should."
"Bah."
"Fight Vader you must not. Totally choke and get maimed you will."
"Sure thing, see you around Yoda."
"Draw you a map with crayons, must I?"

This whole discussion is nerdragelicious.

Quote from: jeff37923;260350This whole discussion is nerdragelicious.

The thread is funny, the folks defending Luke are nerds.

Quote from: The Good Assyrian;260136I'd like to see you say that to Captain Kirk's face, motherfucker.

I've said worse to much scarier people. In fact I say worse to scarier people on a daily basis. The Kirk character has morals. The people I work with like to beat those kinds of people to death.

Quote from: CavScout;260362The thread is funny, the folks defending Luke are nerds.

We're posting on an RPG board. No one here is not a nerd, I'm afraid.

The fatal error of the Jedi wasn't training Anakin, it was the rigidity and arrogance of their philosophy.  If they'd trained him willingly.  If they'd made a point of seeing his mother freed and moved somewhere relatively comfortable and safe.  If they'd explained the birds and the bees and gave him a pack of condoms before assigning him to guard Padme.  If they'd taken a minute to wonder if brainwashed clone troops could be used against them.  If they'd let him sit on the council when he'd fought their war for them.  If they'd let him come when they confronted Palpatine.

Yeah I can't think of anything the Jedi could've done to save themselves.  And Yoda is pretty much the spokesman for the Jedi rigidity and arrogance.

If they'd turned him away Palpatine would have been able to train him in the ways of the Sith from a very young and impressionable age.  And he'd still have been the chosen one.

Quote from: Serious Paul;260403I've said worse to much scarier people. In fact I say worse to scarier people on a daily basis. The Kirk character has morals. The people I work with like to beat those kinds of people to death.

Fair enough, but don't underestimate the man's double karate neck chop and monkey flip.  That's all I'm sayin'...


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