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Gonzo Gaming: Genre or Attitude?

Started by Pierce Inverarity, June 29, 2007, 12:36:49 PM

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Settembrini

Harnmaster has the Airmasters. How do they fit in?
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Settembrini

The ones wo fought with the Earthmasters.

I think they are in fact Aliens, but I always remained a player. So any HM DM here to enlighten us?

EDIT:
Quote- HârnPlayer, Entry 'Airmasters':
 
"According to legend, an alliance of monsters that came... from beyond
the stars to wage war upon the Earthmasters... and as the Ancients
stood for peace and beauty, so the invaders cared only for war and
destruction... The greatest appeal of the legend is that it explains
the disappearance of the Earthmasters."

Also, watch this thread for "realistic gonzo mindset"
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David R

Quote from: CalithenaJorune and Harn are not gonzo; the setting of Chivalry & Sorcery is not gonzo; Ars Magica is not gonzo; Pendragon is not gonzo.

(Just to make the contrast class clear. Gonzo =/= teh kuhl. I played in some fuckin' lame gonzo campaigns back in the day, let me tell you.)

I demand to know why Jorune is not gonzo...also what the hell does "teh kuhl" mean ?

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Quote from: David RI demand to know why Jorune is not gonzo...also what the hell does "teh kuhl" mean ?

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 Thats the oh-so-hip internet way to spell "The Cool". Why the hell people on the internet can't learn to spell "THE" I've never quite figured out.

 By-the-way, the poster formerly known as Jim Bob does a great parody rant of that style or typing and posting.

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David R

Thanks Koltar, I thought it was "teh Kewl"...late again to the party :o

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J Arcane

How the hell did this thread go 37 posts without anyone mentioning Gamma World?  Or Metamorphosis Alpha?
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Quote from: J ArcaneHow the hell did this thread go 37 posts without anyone mentioning Gamma World?  Or Metamorphosis Alpha?

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TheShadow

Quote from: David RI demand to know why Jorune is not gonzo...

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David R

Jorune has the genre-blending elements, but it never struck me as gonzo, unlike say Arduin or Blackmoor...it's too coherent and was never about being a badass or "kuhl" or whatever.

And I have to mention Tunnels and Trolls as teh Gonzo, in the best possible way.

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Quote from: SettembriniI´d postulate the opposite. If you come to 3.5 character builds with a gonzo mindset, you spare yourself a lot of aesthetic grief.

It´s mostly the AD&D 2nd Edition Ren Fair romanticists that dislike 3.x.

Totally true in my experience!
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stu2000

Mostly attitude, though certain genres tend to support it.

I've seen Arduin played completely straight--though that takes work. But I've never seen a Feng Shui game fail to go off the chart. Over the Edge ought to be unavoidably full-bore gonzo, but it can be played nice and easy, too. Space 1889 seemed to want to be very stodgy, but sooner or later, you find bat country.

I think when the game text (as opposed to the rules) is written with a very folksy, enthusiastic style--or when it's simply written poorly--players feel more comfortable to go gonzo with it. Urban Fantasy should be one of the top five full-bore king-hell crazy-ass gonzo extravaganza genres, but the typical style of writing in the books seems to discourage it. Of course that can be overcome.

It's like how "comedy" games, like Toon, Tales of the Foating Vagabond, Gatecrasher, etc. aren't necessarily funny in play. But Unknown Armies, which is presumably dark and forbidding, frequently becomes hysterical.
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Attitude. I could play the same game at two different tables and have it be gonzo or non-gonzo, accordingly.
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Settembrini

QuoteBut Unknown Armies, which is presumably dark and forbidding, frequently becomes hysterical.

Please elaborate!
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stu2000

I don't know if it's gallows humor, or the players "whistling by the graveyard," or the over-the-top mindsets of the folks who want Real Ultimate Power, or just the dark humor embedded in the game universe--but my Unknown Armies scenarios always escalate (or descend) into a wild frenzy of full-gonzo insanity.

It may just be me. I see the humor in the setting and it appeals to me, so I tend, maybe, to draw it out more.
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