Ok, fuck that made me laugh.

Love the hammock meme so far.

Quote from: RPGPunditWell, duh. People who come here specifically to disrupt the stated purpose of these fora shouldn't expect to be mollycoddled.  I mean, if someone like me or Maw went to the Forge with the obvious explicit purpose of disrupting the site, how long would we be tolerated?

Yeah, give me an example of how he's here to disrupt the stated purpose of this site. Seems, to me, he's here, because you started shit with him.

QuoteYes, absolutely. If that's the only reason they come here, there's no reason for them to be treated as though they're anything different from a spammer.

For now, it seems, he's here to defend himself. And really, the only other time, this shit has come up, it's always been about you and your rep for stirring things up.

QuoteNote that this doesn't mean anything similar to "anyone who criticizes me will be banned"; anyone and everyone is free to criticize me up to and including  calling me an unclefucker if they want to, as long as they're also being a productive member of this site who's here with goodwill and shows that by participating in the threads (or starting ones of their own).

So, give him time, to become a productive member. fuck, if Nox has a place here, why not him. Let this fued between him and you, end, and see how things go.

QuoteNo, I didn't pull shit like that. I never went to the Forge boards or the White Wolf boards, and troll them.  I respected that these places had a stated purpose that meant I had no business being there.

Yeah, you just went on boards, where you knew Forge and WW games were discussed and started shit...kinda of what Lev is doing right here.

QuoteRPG.net, on the other hand, was supposed to be a place for free and open discussion of RPGs in general, and I was there doing that: ignoring the question of whether I was justifiably banned there or not; its nothing like someone coming here explicitly to try to fuck around with the stated purpose of this site.

This site is supposed to be about free and open discussion. I don't really care about the stated purpose of this site, since it's cleary not become a problem for most folks who post here. The only time, it ever comes up, seems to be when you have a problem with a poster.

I mean, really, is this the way, you want things to go?

Regards,
David R

I would say that he should be warned that if his only purpose here is to attack you and he contunues to do that then hes gone.

Otherwise if this a one time thing , that he came here defend himself and one his defence is made hes ok. Atleast as long as once he made his defence, he doesnt take every chance to attack you.

I mean we have plenty of people here that like troll on occasion, but none of them do if full time. Most of them do contribute more to conversation than the do to trolling.

Give the newcomer some time. There's a number of ways this could go without having to ban him. Odds are Lev will eventually "grow up" and start posting interesting stuff, or he'll end up in everyone's Ignore List (remember it?).

Yes, you guys are right, clearly its best to let this play itself out. But I just saw this guy, come in after being slagged on my blog, and naturally interpreted it as him coming on here for pure revenge with no good motives.  Sort of like if I were to go on Storygames after someone posts something critical of me there just to raise trouble; only worse, because my posts were on my blog (which he's also trolling), not here.

And when it comes to this site not being disrupted by the Rogue's Gallery, I get defensive.

But I mostly started this thread to see what the rest of the site's initial reactions to the guy were going to be, and while I suspect some of the people who posted here have ulterior motives for arguing in his favour, others have clearly made it known that they don't feel things are sufficiently disrupted yet that I need to do anything about it.

So that's cool. I won't. I'll wait, and this will either resolve itself, or very shortly get to the point where the majority of good-faith posters on here feel that he's adding nothing to the site and want me to get rid of him.  I'll give him "enough rope"; and see if he forms his own noose.

RPGPundit

The man has the balls to come down here, shovel the crap you've tossed his way, and remain on his toes.  He hasn't gone off on a preachersome rant, and he's not been dropping pointless "claim to authority" linkage.

I say we let JimBob slap some english into him, and then fight it out.

Quote from: David RSo, give him time, to become a productive member. fuck, if Nox has a place here, why not him.

With this, I agree.

He'll do one of four things,

• Continue to post pointless attacks
• Post rpg stuff instead
• Do pointless attacks, and rpg stuff
  
• Disappear into silence, forgetting he was even registered here.

Only one of the four possibilities makes him banworthy. The last option is the most likely, and is in effect no different from a ban; silence is silence.

Quote from: RPGPunditYes, you guys are right, clearly its best to let this play itself out.
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So that's cool. I won't. I'll wait, and this will either resolve itself, or very shortly get to the point where the majority of good-faith posters on here feel that he's adding nothing to the site and want me to get rid of him. I'll give him "enough rope"; and see if he forms his own noose.

I'm glad you agree.

Like David R said, if you let Dominus Nox stay, you sure as shit have to let Lev Lafayette stay. At least Lev talks about rpgs in between saying I'm a poopyhead. Granted, his talk is wrong and crazy, but at least it's rpg talk.

Quote from: Levi KornelsenThe man has the balls to come down here, shovel the crap you've tossed his way, and remain on his toes. He hasn't gone off on a preachersome rant, and he's not been dropping pointless "claim to authority" linkage.

Yep, he has balls alright. But the linkage lack, well he has no choice. Unlike that LJ, if he links here, someone might actually read what he links to and point out its silliness, which kinda hurts the ol' Claim to Authority.

I would be sorely disappointed to find this board had banned any real user. (As opposed to Spam bots.)

Quote from: Serious PaulI would be sorely disappointed to find this board had banned any real user. (As opposed to Spam bots.)

Thus far it has only banned spam bots.

But eventually its almost certain that I'll end up forced to ban some non-spambot; it'd be questionable if I'd call a person who came here ONLY to make trouble and destabilize the site a "real user".  It'd be like calling a foreign national sent to your country to try to bomb your infrastructure a "real citizen".

I want it to be explicitly clear that I will NOT have the least bit of qualms about banning someone who comes here to sabotage the site or its admins (be they me or any other); and that I certainly expect that sooner or later that will happen. I make a point of saying this later so that no one can accuse me of "hypocrisy" later for taking out some guy for his wanting to destroy this site.

RPGPundit

If you ban Lev, I will go too.

Quote from: SettembriniIf you ban Lev, I will go too.

That would be a pity, as it would be to lose Lev, assuming he talks about rpgs. I've pointed out this thread to him, as it may interest him, and it's good to know if you're skating on thin ice; there I also pointed out the thread where he can go to call me a prick, since he seems quite keen on that.

I still think he'll get bored and wander off, though. It's not his kind of site, we're unfriendly to jargon and call bullshit on obvious bullshit. He also takes the shit-talking personally, and takes things to a personal level with others. Again, this is a pity.

I don't particularly care either way whether you ban the guy, but I'm glad you asked us (the userbase) for our opinion.

Don't ban him.  JB's right: he'll get bored of poking the bear and move on to greener pastures.

I think banning folks is usually not a good idea, especially when they are acting like an ass and everyone sees it. On the other hand Pundit, as much as I like you, you're kind of abrasive yourself... and that's cool (so am I). He'll eventually grow bored with fucking with you (they always do).

Nobody gets bored of fucking with me because I AM THE LOVE MACHEEN.

Okay, I'm not contributing.  Don't mind me.