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Whatever Happened to the 4vengers?

Started by jeff37923, October 19, 2016, 05:42:42 PM

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Cave Bear

#30
October 20, 2016, 09:42:09 PM
4E still has its fans on /tg/. Threads pop up on the catalog regularly, and the discussions are actually really productive. The Touhou guy knows his stuff.

TristramEvans

#31
October 20, 2016, 09:44:05 PM
Quote from: Cave Bear;925996What do you mean by 4vengers? Do you mean all people who play 4E?

The people who consider 4e the ultimate "evolution" of the D&D system and proselytize online to that effect, who throw tantrums anytime anyone points out differences between 4e and earlier editions or brings up the phrase "dissociative mechanics", and who consider 5e to be a "step backward" whose value is entirely based on nostalgia rather than the objective superiority of 4th edition, are the "4vengers".

People who just play the game and enjoy it but don't feel the need to shit on anyone else's fun, can accept that other people have different tastes than them, and understand that preference regarding games has zero on earth to do with anything resembling scientific objectivity, are just normal, cool gamers.

Mistwell

#32
October 20, 2016, 09:55:15 PM
Corpsetaker is still 4venging on EnWorld, about once a week at least.

Cave Bear

#33
October 20, 2016, 09:55:57 PM
Quote from: TristramEvans;926015The people who consider 4e the ultimate "evolution" of the D&D system and proselytize online to that effect, who throw tantrums anytime anyone points out differences between 4e and earlier editions or brings up the phrase "dissociative mechanics", and who consider 5e to be a "step backward" whose value is entirely based on nostalgia rather than the objective superiority of 4th edition, are the "4vengers".

People who just play the game and enjoy it but don't feel the need to shit on anyone else's fun, can accept that other people have different tastes than them, and understand that preference regarding games has zero on earth to do with anything resembling scientific objectivity, are just normal, cool gamers.

And we haven't heard from those guys in forever.

And yet you still obsess over them. That's not healthy man. You should learn to let go.

TristramEvans

#34
October 20, 2016, 10:19:26 PM
Quote from: Cave Bear;926021And we haven't heard from those guys in forever.

And yet you still obsess over them. That's not healthy man. You should learn to let go.

Um, WTF are you talking about? I dare you to find the last instance on this forum besides this thread I've even used the term, because I believe its been years.

Cave Bear

#35
October 20, 2016, 10:22:23 PM
Quote from: TristramEvans;926027Um, WTF are you talking about? I dare you to find the last instance on this forum besides this thread I've even used the term, because I believe its been years.

Present behavior is the behavior that counts.

Mistwell

#36
October 20, 2016, 10:25:10 PM
Quote from: Cave Bear;926029Present behavior is the behavior that counts.

Well no, to show obsession I think you will need more than once instance

Cave Bear

#37
October 20, 2016, 10:27:42 PM
Quote from: Mistwell;926031Well no, to show obsession I think you will need more than once instance

'Clinging to resentment' would be a better way to put it than 'obsession'?

TristramEvans

#38
October 20, 2016, 10:34:12 PM
Quote from: Cave Bear;926029Present behavior is the behavior that counts.

I think you need to look up the definition of the word behaviour.

jeff37923

#39
October 20, 2016, 11:36:04 PM
Quote from: Cave Bear;925996What do you mean by 4vengers? Do you mean all people who play 4E? Or just the crazy ones?

I was thinking of just the crazy ones. You know, the ones who were incredibly offended that you didn't think 4E was a game worthy of worship and witnessing about to everyone.
"Meh."

jeff37923

#40
October 20, 2016, 11:41:34 PM
Quote from: Cave Bear;926021And we haven't heard from those guys in forever.

And yet you still obsess over them. That's not healthy man. You should learn to let go.

Quote from: Cave Bear;926029Present behavior is the behavior that counts.

Quote from: Cave Bear;926032'Clinging to resentment' would be a better way to put it than 'obsession'?

Wow. Blast from the past. You have to troll harder if you want to really 4venge though.
"Meh."

crkrueger

#41
October 20, 2016, 11:58:28 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;926046Wow. Blast from the past. You have to troll harder if you want to really 4venge though.

Agreed.  Any mouthbreathing goatfucker can 4venge on those other boards.  TheRPGsite gave birth to the greatest 4vengers of them all, Seanchai and Abyssal Maw, may their names be forever cursed and praised in equal measure.

AM was the legend against which all other 4vengers were measured...and found wanting.
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Spinachcat

#42
October 21, 2016, 02:38:59 AM
Quote from: jeff37923;926044I was thinking of just the crazy ones. You know, the ones who were incredibly offended that you didn't think 4E was a game worthy of worship and witnessing about to everyone.

I feel like such a 4wimp :(

I'm totally okay with you guys playing lame editions of D&D due to your unworthiness to play 4e or master its awesomeness. :)

:eek:

jeff37923

#43
October 21, 2016, 03:05:47 AM
Quote from: Spinachcat;926063I feel like such a 4wimp :(

I'm totally okay with you guys playing lame editions of D&D due to your unworthiness to play 4e or master its awesomeness. :)

:eek:

And that is the thing. Nobody really cares what tabletop RPG you play as long as you are not an asshole about it.
"Meh."

Omega

#44
October 21, 2016, 06:49:50 AM
Quote from: jeff37923;926073And that is the thing. Nobody really cares what tabletop RPG you play as long as you are not an asshole about it.

Which is I believe exactly what Mearls called them after he got fed up with it finally. I think that was around the time of the PHB release when the worst of them were really in a frothing rage?

Apparently they were also annoying WOTC on their own forum. Though said fora is gone now so not sure how bad off there they got. Or didnt. I missed 90% of the blowup.
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