Great interview on the security state's censorship complex, how it was formed, and why it turned inward to target its own citizens. I've been aware of this stuff for years, but never seen it explained so well.
My main take-away: We created agencies full of people who were experts at overthrowing governments. It was only a matter of time before they tried it here.
https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1758529993280205039
It is not so much a matter of time...these people have been working on this for 50 years. I give them credit in one matter, they understand how to be gradual until they are ready to be fast paced. I think it might end badly for a lot of them though because at the end of the day the USA has a whole lot of rowdies in it.
Google is trying to replace its search engine with generative AI. This will kill countless publishers that rely on ad revenue. It's terrifying how much power Google has. They need to be regulated.
Quote from: Horace on February 18, 2024, 12:17:29 PM
Great interview on the security state's censorship complex, how it was formed, and why it turned inward to target its own citizens. I've been aware of this stuff for years, but never seen it explained so well.
My main take-away: We created agencies full of people who were experts at overthrowing governments. It was only a matter of time before they tried it here.
https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1758529993280205039
The US Government as founded was overthrown in 1871 without a shot fired. We have been living in the hell that is USA Inc ever since.
That was an excellent interview. Tucker's new one involving Brazil is also great as it gives you an idea of what's planned for the USA next.
After 2024 gets stolen, I hope to see the rise of a serious secession movement.
Quote from: Horace on February 18, 2024, 12:17:29 PM
Great interview on the security state's censorship complex, how it was formed, and why it turned inward to target its own citizens. I've been aware of this stuff for years, but never seen it explained so well.
My main take-away: We created agencies full of people who were experts at overthrowing governments. It was only a matter of time before they tried it here.
https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1758529993280205039
Interesting. What stood out to me was the complete inversion between how Tucker is trying to spin it, and what Benz is actually telling. A little bit of the way through, this exchange was stark:
Quote(15:57) TUCKER CARLSON: It's almost beyond belief that this has happened. My own father worked for the U.S. government in this business, in the information war against the Soviet Union. The idea that any of those tools would be turned against American citizens was, I think... I want to think... absolutely unthinkable in 1988.
Quote(19:37) MIKE BENZ: We've had these gatekeepers. We've had these bumpercars on democracy in the form of a century-old relationship with legacy media institutions.
Our mainstream media is not in any shape or form, even from its outset, independent from the national security state, from the State Department, from the War Department. All of the initial broadcast news companies -- NBC, ABC, and CBS -- were all created by Office of War Information veterans from the War Department's efforts in World War II.
You had these Operation Mockingbird relationships from the 1950s to the 1970s. Those continued through the use of the National Endowment for Democracy and the privatization of intelligence capacities in the 1980s under Reagan. There's all sorts of CIA reading room memos that you can read even on CIA.gov about those continued media relations throughout the 1990s.
So you always had this backdoor relationship between the Washington Post, the New York Times, and all the major broadcast media corporations. By the way, Rupert Murdoch and FOX are part of this as well. Rupert Murdoch was actually a part of the National Endowment for Democracy coalition in 1983 when it was formed as a way to do CIA operations in an above-board way after the Democrats were so ticked off at the CIA for manipulating student movements in the 1970s.
Tucker is trying to spin the idea that the government censoring or spying on U.S. citizens was completely unthinkable in 1988. But what Benz is telling him is that this is completely false.
The thing that changed in recent decades is that the government started bringing to the Internet tactics that had been in place for a century or more in legacy media. Student movements were well aware of this in the 1970s, and I grew up with an awareness of it.
That doesn't mean I think it's OK. I absolutely want to clean up and tackle government censorship and spying and promote free speech. I just think dealing with it effectively means understanding about the history and reality of it.
Greetings!
There are essentially three optional discussions between the STATE--the United States Government--and various individual citizens, regardless of the individual's status, wealth, or percieved prominence.
(1): The State asks them to cooperate with the power, and they comply. Problem solved.
(2): The State bribes the person in question, and they proceed to cooperate, and obey. Problem solved.
(3): The State determines that the individual or group will not cooperate or comply. So, such individuals are mysteriously discovered to have been distraught over personal problems, and tragically have committed suicide. Problem solved.
There is no voting our way out of this problem. The corruption is too deep, and too strong, and most of whom are not elected officials anyways. They are amorphous faces of the Deep State machine.
They are powerful. Proud. Arrogant, and smug. They are imperiously confident in the vast wealth, strength, and power of the Deep State, and are scornful of the masses of stupid, gullible, and easily manipulated sheep.
Semper Fidelis,
SHARK
Quote from: Exploderwizard on March 02, 2024, 09:47:28 PM
Quote from: Horace on February 18, 2024, 12:17:29 PM
Great interview on the security state's censorship complex, how it was formed, and why it turned inward to target its own citizens. I've been aware of this stuff for years, but never seen it explained so well.
My main take-away: We created agencies full of people who were experts at overthrowing governments. It was only a matter of time before they tried it here.
https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1758529993280205039
The US Government as founded was overthrown in 1871 without a shot fired. We have been living in the hell that is USA Inc ever since.
Oh god, we're getting SovCit-brand bullshit on this forum now too?
I'm so fed up with how the country is, I'm no longer voting.
It doesn't matter.
Let it all burn.
"student movements" AKA commies.
Quote from: oggsmash on March 04, 2024, 12:44:15 PM
"student movements" AKA commies.
Greetings!
Yeah! Fuck the Commie students. The only "Movement" they need is to be crushed under the boots of true patriots.
Semper Fidelis,
SHARK
Quote from: SHARK on March 04, 2024, 05:00:54 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on March 04, 2024, 12:44:15 PM
"student movements" AKA commies.
Yeah! Fuck the Commie students. The only "Movement" they need is to be crushed under the boots of true patriots.
That's the trick. The government has always justified censorship and spying by saying that it's necessary to protect the country from communists, or anarchists, or Islamists, or some other category. This is how Congress passed and re-authorized the PATRIOT Act and people don't reject the members voting for it because they want safety and security more than they want freedom.
Quote from: jhkim on March 04, 2024, 05:36:46 PM
Quote from: SHARK on March 04, 2024, 05:00:54 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on March 04, 2024, 12:44:15 PM
"student movements" AKA commies.
Yeah! Fuck the Commie students. The only "Movement" they need is to be crushed under the boots of true patriots.
That's the trick. The government has always justified censorship and spying by saying that it's necessary to protect the country from communists, or anarchists, or Islamists, or some other category. This is how Congress passed and re-authorized the PATRIOT Act and people don't reject the members voting for it because they want safety and security more than they want freedom.
Hey, man. We need a Strong and Ruthless government to protect us from fascism! ;)
Greetings!
Yeah, we wouldn't want to embrace any kind of rough treatment for the fucking Communists. We should all be sweet and nice Care-bears for the fucking Communists. ::)
Semper Fidelis,
SHARK
Quote from: jhkim on March 04, 2024, 05:36:46 PMThe government has always justified censorship and spying by saying that it's necessary to protect the country from communists, or anarchists, or Islamists, or some other category.
It would be one thing to live under a restrictive government that actually stopped any of those groups, but we're 100 years into abject failure.
Quote from: jhkim on March 04, 2024, 05:36:46 PM
Quote from: SHARK on March 04, 2024, 05:00:54 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on March 04, 2024, 12:44:15 PM
"student movements" AKA commies.
Yeah! Fuck the Commie students. The only "Movement" they need is to be crushed under the boots of true patriots.
That's the trick. The government has always justified censorship and spying by saying that it's necessary to protect the country from communists, or anarchists, or Islamists, or some other category. This is how Congress passed and re-authorized the PATRIOT Act and people don't reject the members voting for it because they want safety and security more than they want freedom.
The people DO need protection from those things...that act however was transparently not for that. No news flash that the average person is a soft coward who will do anything to avoid hard work, hardship, or responsibility. The control and propaganda goes back way further than the 70's I would say the 30's it went off the rails. It had to in order to convince Americans to go die for other people's problems.
Quote from: blackstone on March 04, 2024, 08:16:36 AM
I'm so fed up with how the country is, I'm no longer voting.
It doesn't matter.
Let it all burn.
Well, I reckon it's worth one more try; but I do understand your pessimism. At this point; the political parties involved, are merely rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. The good ol' USA now runs a publicized Deficit, of 1 Trillion Dollars every 100 Days. That's 10 Billion Dollars Per Day, and the Rate is Accelerating.....
First Post, by the way. Hello Everyone!!!
Quote from: Man at Arms on March 06, 2024, 01:49:09 PM
Quote from: blackstone on March 04, 2024, 08:16:36 AM
I'm so fed up with how the country is, I'm no longer voting.
It doesn't matter.
Let it all burn.
Well, I reckon it's worth one more try; but I do understand your pessimism. At this point; the political parties involved, are merely rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. The good ol' USA now runs a publicized Deficit, of 1 Trillion Dollars every 100 Days. That's 10 Billion Dollars Per Day, and the Rate is Accelerating.....
First Post, by the way. Hello Everyone!!!
Welcome, we can always use another fighting man to man the gates.
Quote from: blackstone on March 04, 2024, 08:16:36 AM
I'm so fed up with how the country is, I'm no longer voting.
It doesn't matter.
Let it all burn.
I live in California. My vote hasn't mattered since 1999 when the Democrats took total one party control. Basically the only choices are Radical Leftist Communist or Even More Radical Leftist Communist. The Democrats choose who is on the ballot before anyone can even vote.
Quote from: Thor's Nads on March 07, 2024, 08:24:18 PM
I live in California. My vote hasn't mattered since 1999 when the Democrats took total one party control. Basically the only choices are Radical Leftist Communist or Even More Radical Leftist Communist. The Democrats choose who is on the ballot before anyone can even vote.
I remember when Jerry Brown was re-elected governor of California, at the time I thought he was a terrible left winger too old for the job. I can't believe I miss those days, at least he was one of those old school 60's hippie liberals, nothing like the absolute total communists we have nowadays.
Quote from: Grognard GM on March 08, 2024, 08:57:40 AM
Quote from: Thor's Nads on March 07, 2024, 08:24:18 PMI live in California.
My condolences.
It's f'kn terrible, and I can't convince my wife to move because we have a "dream home" in one of the nicest areas. It's a sea of rainbow flags and BLM signs.
Quote from: Thor's Nads on March 09, 2024, 02:51:27 AM
Quote from: Grognard GM on March 08, 2024, 08:57:40 AM
Quote from: Thor's Nads on March 07, 2024, 08:24:18 PMI live in California.
My condolences.
It's f'kn terrible, and I can't convince my wife to move because we have a "dream home" in one of the nicest areas. It's a sea of rainbow flags and BLM signs.
I thought you said it was one of the nicest areas?
Quote from: Exploderwizard on March 09, 2024, 09:15:36 PM
Quote from: Thor's Nads on March 09, 2024, 02:51:27 AM
Quote from: Grognard GM on March 08, 2024, 08:57:40 AM
Quote from: Thor's Nads on March 07, 2024, 08:24:18 PMI live in California.
My condolences.
It's f'kn terrible, and I can't convince my wife to move because we have a "dream home" in one of the nicest areas. It's a sea of rainbow flags and BLM signs.
I thought you said it was one of the nicest areas?
Nice is relative.
Virtue signaling flags are nicer looking than shit and needle-covered sidewalks, mile after mile of homeless encampments, boarded up buildings, burned out cars, and fentanyl addicts strewn across the ground.
Greetings!
Ahh, yes. My neighborhood is a sea of Trump flags, American flags, peppered with various military flags.
Not ONE BLM or rainbow flag in sight.
As for California, man. A man's got to assert leadership over the woman. Safety and security of the home is primary. The fact is, California is increasingly run by Anarcho-Tyrants. These Marxist morons actually champion the criminal class, and see them as heroes fighting against the evil, white patriarchy. Your uber nice home will not be worth anything when it gets raided by homeless zombies, and covered in shit. Or burned to the ground. Or you get attacked, raped, and potentially killed. Homeless people attack, rape, and kill good citizens all the time.
Look what has happened to Costa Mesa, Anaheim, and Huntington Beach. All cities in Southern California. All these cities used to be beautiful, productive, and safe.
Now, they are Liberal fucking shitholes filled with drugs, crime, and homeless people.
All because of the fucking Marxist Liberals. These people are diseased, and need to be cleansed.
So, yes. Get the fuck out of California. The sooner, the better. There are too many brainwashed morons amidst the masses, that eagerly gulp down the Marxist Kool-Aid. Voting won't change a thing. California is fucked, and will continue to get worse--more ridden with crime, more impoverished, more violent, and more overwhelmed with homeless, and illegal immigrants.
I am originally a California native. I have left California, and now live in farm country in Idaho. I live in a small, rural farm town, on the edge of nowhere. My neighbors are all hard working people, church going, law-abiding patriots. Many veterans, as well as police officers that live in my neighborhood. There are three church preachers, grocery store employees, school teachers, plumbers, and post office workers, and more. An absolutely wonderful, clean, safe neighborhood. There is no homeless anywhere. No crime, no thugs, no graffiti. No shit and garbage everywhere.
And, everyone believes in guns. Everyone owns guns. Gun stores are full of huge selections of guns that you cannot even see anywhere in gun stores in California. That is because Idaho believes in the Constitution, and the Marxist Tyrants in California do not believe in the Constitution. Idaho has laws within our state Constitution that embraces the 2nd Amendment as core, and shall not be violated in any way. Conceal carry? No special permits needed, or special authority from the fucking state. Every man is allowed by law to go about armed, open or concealed, anywhere in the state. Except a courthouse. *Laughing* Maybe a few other places. Nonetheless, freedom is the rule, and being armed is encouraged and expected of everyone.
Once you get out of California, you can really see the Communism, and the tyranny there. You are in kind of a weird bubble living there. You begin to gradually believe that all that corruption, all that tyranny, all of that chaos, is *normal*
Outside of California, in a RED MAGA State, it is not. It isn't normal, and it is evil tyranny and Marxism. It is corruption, chaos, and depravity.
In a red Maga state, you really see what normal is. You get to experience genuine safety, patriotism, unity, and freedom.
Semper Fidelis,
SHARK
Quote from: Thor's Nads on March 09, 2024, 02:51:27 AM
Quote from: Grognard GM on March 08, 2024, 08:57:40 AM
Quote from: Thor's Nads on March 07, 2024, 08:24:18 PMI live in California.
My condolences.
It's f'kn terrible, and I can't convince my wife to move because we have a "dream home" in one of the nicest areas. It's a sea of rainbow flags and BLM signs.
Top tip, 'for fun' start shopping for houses with her online, in places you'd like to move to. Don't pressure her at all, just make it a thing to look at pictures with her, casually comment on how much bang for the buck the new places have. With luck she'll convince herself.
Fingers crossed for you.
Quote from: Grognard GM on March 11, 2024, 12:29:15 PM
Quote from: Thor's Nads on March 09, 2024, 02:51:27 AM
Quote from: Grognard GM on March 08, 2024, 08:57:40 AM
Quote from: Thor's Nads on March 07, 2024, 08:24:18 PMI live in California.
My condolences.
It's f'kn terrible, and I can't convince my wife to move because we have a "dream home" in one of the nicest areas. It's a sea of rainbow flags and BLM signs.
Top tip, 'for fun' start shopping for houses with her online, in places you'd like to move to. Don't pressure her at all, just make it a thing to look at pictures with her, casually comment on how much bang for the buck the new places have. With luck she'll convince herself.
Fingers crossed for you.
Fun fact: A friend told me about a property in the town/county he lives in, with two trailers converted into a home and a huge ass land with a river...
Don't remember the exact price but it was cheaper than buying a tiny appartment here in México City...
If I had the money I would have bought it in an instant.
Quote from: SHARK on March 10, 2024, 01:27:00 PM
In a red Maga state, you really see what normal is. You get to experience genuine safety, patriotism, unity, and freedom.
This is a false generalization. It's true that Idaho has lower crime rates than California, but California has less violent crime than Texas, and much less than the most lethal crime states (Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas) - all of which are red states. Here's a map of homicide rates, for example:
(https://landgeistdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2022/07/usa-homicide-rate-2.png)
There's no simple relation to politics of the state. For example, my sister lives in blue state Maine, for example, which has even lower murder rate than Idaho.
Quote from: SHARK on March 10, 2024, 01:27:00 PM
As for California, man. A man's got to assert leadership over the woman. Safety and security of the home is primary. The fact is, California is increasingly run by Anarcho-Tyrants. These Marxist morons actually champion the criminal class, and see them as heroes fighting against the evil, white patriarchy. Your uber nice home will not be worth anything when it gets raided by homeless zombies, and covered in shit. Or burned to the ground. Or you get attacked, raped, and potentially killed. Homeless people attack, rape, and kill good citizens all the time.
Look what has happened to Costa Mesa, Anaheim, and Huntington Beach. All cities in Southern California. All these cities used to be beautiful, productive, and safe.
Now, they are Liberal fucking shitholes filled with drugs, crime, and homeless people.
Here's the stats for violent crime in Huntington Beach.
(https://darkshire.net/jhkim/opinions/crime/huntington-beach-crime.jpg)
Source: https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/explorer/crime/crime-trend
What years are you saying was the stark transformation of it into a dangerous shithole of crime? It looks to me like pretty steady back-and-forth over the last 25 years.
Looks like an over 25 percent increase over time to me... that mysteriously flattens in 2020 after all the less policing propaganda and cops doing a whole lot of "quiet quitting" to ride toward pensions started.
Quote from: jhkim on March 11, 2024, 02:09:29 PM
Quote from: SHARK on March 10, 2024, 01:27:00 PM
In a red Maga state, you really see what normal is. You get to experience genuine safety, patriotism, unity, and freedom.
This is a false generalization. It's true that Idaho has lower crime rates than California, but California has less violent crime than Texas, and much less than the most lethal crime states (Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas) - all of which are red states. Here's a map of homicide rates, for example:
(https://landgeistdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2022/07/usa-homicide-rate-2.png)
There's no simple relation to politics of the state. For example, my sister lives in blue state Maine, for example, which has even lower murder rate than Idaho.
Quote from: SHARK on March 10, 2024, 01:27:00 PM
As for California, man. A man's got to assert leadership over the woman. Safety and security of the home is primary. The fact is, California is increasingly run by Anarcho-Tyrants. These Marxist morons actually champion the criminal class, and see them as heroes fighting against the evil, white patriarchy. Your uber nice home will not be worth anything when it gets raided by homeless zombies, and covered in shit. Or burned to the ground. Or you get attacked, raped, and potentially killed. Homeless people attack, rape, and kill good citizens all the time.
Look what has happened to Costa Mesa, Anaheim, and Huntington Beach. All cities in Southern California. All these cities used to be beautiful, productive, and safe.
Now, they are Liberal fucking shitholes filled with drugs, crime, and homeless people.
Here's the stats for violent crime in Huntington Beach.
(https://darkshire.net/jhkim/opinions/crime/huntington-beach-crime.jpg)
Source: https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/explorer/crime/crime-trend
What years are you saying was the stark transformation of it into a dangerous shithole of crime? It looks to me like pretty steady back-and-forth over the last 25 years.
Greetings!
Sorry, Jhkim. Your stats, your graphs, whatever, are all fucking wrong.
I am a native Californian. I lived most of my life in Southern California, for the best part of 30 years. I have LIVED in Huntington Beach, Anaheim, Costa Mesa, Orange, Norwalk. I lived and worked in these cities for YEARS. I know the freeways. I know the neighborhoods. I know the people. I know the work environment. I know all about the local areas, what areas are good, what areas are bad--and what areas and cities have CHANGED. HOW they have changed, and WHY.
Just like many other Californians that have worked, lived, and owned property. They and myself have seen everything go to fucking shit, increasingly, over the past 20 years and more.
Stop smoking that crack man, and drinking your fucking Liberal Kool-Aid.
Semper Fidelis,
SHARK
Quote from: jhkim on March 11, 2024, 02:09:29 PM
Quote from: SHARK on March 10, 2024, 01:27:00 PM
In a red Maga state, you really see what normal is. You get to experience genuine safety, patriotism, unity, and freedom.
This is a false generalization. It's true that Idaho has lower crime rates than California, but California has less violent crime than Texas, and much less than the most lethal crime states (Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas) - all of which are red states. Here's a map of homicide rates, for example:
(https://landgeistdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2022/07/usa-homicide-rate-2.png)
Note the YEAR for that map... i.e. 2020. Which means the stats are probably 2019.
So, pre-BLM burning cities, pre-Defund the Police, pre-mass invasion of illegals and criminal cartels pumping drugs across open borders.
Also helpful would be looking at those numbers in the urban areas vs. the numbers in the rural areas... because even the Red-States have blue cities, the Blue-States have massive swaths of red rural areas.
It's yet again the region no one trusts the Left; like jhkim, they selectively quote and cite and hope people won't notice their lies by omission.
What's absolutely hilarious will be when the barbarians rip the Left in the cities apart as they scream and wonder why being an "ally" didn't buy them an iota of mercy.
Are we REALLY trying to play the red states have higher homicide rates because they are red states game? I wonder...if there is some statistic we could find that could POSSIBLY explain why the blue state of Maine has a lower homicide rate than say red state Mississippi? I can assure you of this...it will not be the mike drop stat you are looking for in this red state/blue state BS comparison you are attempting here.
I will offer some help...92 percent of a demographic as juxtaposed to 1.44 percent of another demographic in Maine. 57.8 percent versus 37.8 percent in Miss. If we REALLY wanted to talk blue and red...we might find out those red states have some VERY blue cities with a demographic that seems to...for some unexplained reason no one understands...always have the highest homicide rates....
Quote from: SHARK on March 11, 2024, 02:45:38 PM
Sorry, Jhkim. Your stats, your graphs, whatever, are all fucking wrong.
I am a native Californian. I lived most of my life in Southern California, for the best part of 30 years. I have LIVED in Huntington Beach, Anaheim, Costa Mesa, Orange, Norwalk. I lived and worked in these cities for YEARS. I know the freeways. I know the neighborhoods. I know the people. I know the work environment. I know all about the local areas, what areas are good, what areas are bad--and what areas and cities have CHANGED. HOW they have changed, and WHY.
SHARK, how long have you been living in Idaho? I've been living in California for 26 years. I've gone to a bunch of city council meetings and gotten involved through my church in many local-area efforts. I've seen different people living in the same town give completely different politically-charged rhetoric about their home areas.
Different people even living in the same town may speak differently about what they think about crime and safety. That's why having actual data is important.
Quote from: Chris24601 on March 11, 2024, 02:49:36 PM
Note the YEAR for that map... i.e. 2020. Which means the stats are probably 2019.
So, pre-BLM burning cities, pre-Defund the Police, pre-mass invasion of illegals and criminal cartels pumping drugs across open borders.
That map was posted in 2022, and it is labelled as 2020 data. I can't find a linkable image of the map, but you can get a map of the 2021 data here:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/homicide_mortality/homicide.htm
And you can get the 2022 data from the FBI's UCR crime trend, though not in colored-map form:
https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/explorer/crime/crime-trend
None of the updated data changes what I said. The state-by-state trends are roughly the same. Crime overall went up in 2020, especially the homicide rate, but that is true in red states like Idaho just as much as in blue states like California. Idaho has a low murder rate, but it went up (in rate per 100k population) from 1.6 (2019) to 2.2 (2020).
Quote from: oggsmash on March 11, 2024, 03:05:15 PM
Are we REALLY trying to play the red states have higher homicide rates because they are red states game?
oggsmash, I explicitly said that crime rates do
not trend with red-vs-blue. I think part of the problem is the bullshit of media. Regardless of red-vs-blue, I don't think media or social-media convey the reality of crime rates. In general, the media's political story-telling is different from reality.
SHARK claimed that moving to a red state would make a huge difference in safety. I think that generalization is false. If he were to say "Moving out of a big city to a rural area will mean lower crime risk", then I'd agree. Though in terms of general safety, rural areas have higher overall death rates than urban areas in the U.S.
Diversity kills... (https://postimg.cc/kRPQPdyx)
Greetings!
Yes, this is one of my favourite Christian gospel songs. Blue Grass tradition, from way back. This little girl singing like an angel from heaven? Absolutely beautiful. I could listen to her read me a phone book! Her band is fantastic, and the woman fiddle player! Yeah, damn sweet!
This little girl singing so fine, and her entire band, sound straight out of the holler somewhere in Kentucky! Simply amazing and wonderful music! Watch her expression, and listen to her diction, and pitch. Jumping bananas, she's an angel! Perfect rendition of this old Christian classic!
Ahh, but the interesting thing about her and her entire band, so wonderful--they are born and bred in NORWAY. Evidently they immigrated here to America a few years back.
SHOUT OUT TO TROND! ;D
This woman here and her band is the kind of "diversity" I can appreciate!
Semper Fidelis,
SHARK
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Quote from: Man at Arms on March 06, 2024, 01:49:09 PM
Quote from: blackstone on March 04, 2024, 08:16:36 AM
I'm so fed up with how the country is, I'm no longer voting.
It doesn't matter.
Let it all burn.
Well, I reckon it's worth one more try; but I do understand your pessimism. At this point; the political parties involved, are merely rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. The good ol' USA now runs a publicized Deficit, of 1 Trillion Dollars every 100 Days. That's 10 Billion Dollars Per Day, and the Rate is Accelerating.....
First Post, by the way. Hello Everyone!!!
Welcome, we can always use another fighting man to man the gates.
Got my own guns, ammo, and combat experience. I'll be ready to man up.
I see the jhkimBot is really working hard for the Left here: throw up useless statistics while being ignorant of the reality on the ground.
ANYONE can fudge stats and numbers, especially those who want to remain in power.
You can grandstand and yell "look at the numbers! You're WRONG!" all day...and yet look at San Fran and L.A. now.
Shitholes.
I've seen the before and after what the Demo-rats have done to Cali. Lived in Las Vegas, Nevada in the 90s and the flight from Cali was starting even then. Many people saw the writing on the wall and got the fuck out, leaving in droves to Nevada and Arizona. And this was the 90s, a generally prosperous period in the US.
"But, but..the rural areas!" you might say.
Doesn't matter. Shitty laws and taxes affect EVERYONE. IT's only a matter of time before the shit spills over into the rural communities.
Wasn't there a movement of Cali voters trying to have part of the state succeed from Cali and form their own state? Just for the very reasons I've listed?
I'm sure that's been squashed/suppressed by the Demo-rats.
But, please, tell us how everything is all sunshine and roses in California, where human feces and used syringes are all over the streets of San Francisco, which was once one of the most beautiful cities in the USA, and where if you steal less than $900 in merchandise you won't even get thrown in jail?
Rural areas might have a higher rate of death...but that is probably more due to old people having heart attacks far away from a hospital. They also have MUCH lower rates of being shot by feral urban inhabitants. Shark should have said a red area/county instead of red state IMO. Because you are certainly right jhkim, a red state with a very blue city will be very dangerous indeed.
Quote from: blackstone on March 12, 2024, 08:16:38 AM
I see the jhkimBot is really working hard for the Left here: throw up useless statistics while being ignorant of the reality on the ground.
ANYONE can fudge stats and numbers, especially those who want to remain in power.
You can grandstand and yell "look at the numbers! You're WRONG!" all day...and yet look at San Fran and L.A. now.
Shitholes.
I've seen the before and after what the Demo-rats have done to Cali. Lived in Las Vegas, Nevada in the 90s and the flight from Cali was starting even then. Many people saw the writing on the wall and got the fuck out, leaving in droves to Nevada and Arizona. And this was the 90s, a generally prosperous period in the US.
"But, but..the rural areas!" you might say.
Doesn't matter. Shitty laws and taxes affect EVERYONE. IT's only a matter of time before the shit spills over into the rural communities.
Wasn't there a movement of Cali voters trying to have part of the state succeed from Cali and form their own state? Just for the very reasons I've listed?
I'm sure that's been squashed/suppressed by the Demo-rats.
But, please, tell us how everything is all sunshine and roses in California, where human feces and used syringes are all over the streets of San Francisco, which was once one of the most beautiful cities in the USA, and where if you steal less than $900 in merchandise you won't even get thrown in jail?
Greetings!
PREACH IT, Brother!
Absolutely spot on!
Semper Fidelis,
SHARK
Yeah, I hate to be that way, but there's an old saying where I'm from:
"don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining"
Quote from: blackstone on March 12, 2024, 08:16:38 AM
I see the jhkimBot is really working hard for the Left here: throw up useless statistics while being ignorant of the reality on the ground.
ANYONE can fudge stats and numbers, especially those who want to remain in power.
You can grandstand and yell "look at the numbers! You're WRONG!" all day...and yet look at San Fran and L.A. now.
Where do you live, blackstone? I've been living in California for the last 26 years, and am currently in Santa Clara - in the SF Bay area. I was in SF yesterday to have lunch with a friend, and I'll be going there tomorrow to have dinner with my sister who's visiting.
For me, the "reality on the ground" is the city I regularly visit and walk the streets of. How do you know the reality of San Francisco?
I didn't offer my personal experience about that because I think it's more objective to talk about the bigger picture and stats, and I doubt anyone would take that as more definitive. As I said to SHARK, different people can live in the same town and say different things about it.
I'm open to other sources of evidence about crime rates. But no, I don't accept your word over what I see with my own eyes.
I think there are some things leftists will stick to no matter what. I think trusting ANYTHING an enemy tells me is beyond foolish. I think if people like living in the bay area...good on them. I also suspect people living in that area know the places they can go, cant go, and shouldnt go.
Quote from: jhkim on March 13, 2024, 11:40:04 AM
Quote from: blackstone on March 12, 2024, 08:16:38 AM
I see the jhkimBot is really working hard for the Left here: throw up useless statistics while being ignorant of the reality on the ground.
ANYONE can fudge stats and numbers, especially those who want to remain in power.
You can grandstand and yell "look at the numbers! You're WRONG!" all day...and yet look at San Fran and L.A. now.
Where do you live, blackstone? I've been living in California for the last 26 years, and am currently in Santa Clara - in the SF Bay area. I was in SF yesterday to have lunch with a friend, and I'll be going there tomorrow to have dinner with my sister who's visiting.
For me, the "reality on the ground" is the city I regularly visit and walk the streets of. How do you know the reality of San Francisco?
I didn't offer my personal experience about that because I think it's more objective to talk about the bigger picture and stats, and I doubt anyone would take that as more definitive. As I said to SHARK, different people can live in the same town and say different things about it.
I'm open to other sources of evidence about crime rates. But no, I don't accept your word over what I see with my own eyes.
you do you, man.
Quote from: DocJones on March 11, 2024, 08:10:46 PM
Diversity kills... (https://postimg.cc/kRPQPdyx)
LOL I know. The elephant in the room that libtards would like to ignore.
Quote from: DocJones on March 11, 2024, 08:10:46 PM
Diversity kills... (https://postimg.cc/kRPQPdyx)
DocJones, do you have the numbers behind those maps? The main trends I see is similar to the state-level crime maps I showed before. There are high crime rates around the high black population and high poverty region in the Southeast around Mississippi, as well as on Native American reservations.
Outside of those two most obvious trends, it's less clear. A geographic area map makes it harder to see the dominant population in cities. For example, among big cities, the SF Bay Area is minority white -- and has lower crime rates than the most majority white cities like Columbus or Indianapolis. Here's a list of the biggest U.S. cities by percentage white population:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_percentage_of_white_population
There doesn't seem to be any clear correlation to crime rate that I see in that list. Columbus and Indianapolis are the cities with the highest non-Hispanic white population, but they aren't the lowest crime.
There is a similar issue with left-right politics. Big cities trend more blue -- and big cities also have higher crime than small-town and rural areas. However, among big cities, there isn't a simple correlation between which are most Democrat and which are highest crime. Forth Worth and Oklahoma City are examples of the uncommon Republican-majority cities - and their crime rates aren't particularly different from other cities of their size.
Quote from: oggsmash on March 13, 2024, 11:59:29 AM
I think there are some things leftists will stick to no matter what. I think trusting ANYTHING an enemy tells me is beyond foolish. I think if people like living in the bay area...good on them. I also suspect people living in that area know the places they can go, cant go, and shouldnt go.
I'd say that most people - left or right - are set in their political positions, and it's hard to discuss evidence objectively. This is just as true in issues like nuclear power as in crime rates.
As for the Bay Area, sure. In general, poorly lit areas around poor neighborhoods are more dangerous. That's a general rule for me regardless of where I am.
I have lots of problems with how the Bay Area and California is run, and I'm not always simple left-right. I do know two people who were murdered. They both were killed in domestic violence incidents. My fiancee's mother was killed when her friend's estranged husband came to the house - this was in a small-town red area of California (Redding). Also, I had a friend who was killed by her partner, which was at their home in a wealthy, low-crime blue suburb.
Greetings!
I was doing some work on my campaign, and listening to different music. I couldn't help but to wonder what our crime rate and cultural environment would be like here in America if we had more cultural diversity such as this beautiful woman, Ekaterina Shelehova.
I don't speak Russian, unfortunately. I'm always amazed how such music, like this beautiful song, can affect people so powerfully, while not understanding a single word of this woman's language.
Semper Fidelis,
SHARK
Greetings!
Here is another stunning treat of a song from Ekaterina Shelehova.
Semper Fidelis,
SHARK
Quote from: jhkim on March 14, 2024, 05:54:38 PM
Quote from: DocJones on March 11, 2024, 08:10:46 PM
Diversity kills... (https://postimg.cc/kRPQPdyx)
DocJones, do you have the numbers behind those maps? The main trends I see is similar to the state-level crime maps I showed before. There are high crime rates around the high black population and high poverty region in the Southeast around Mississippi, as well as on Native American reservations.
Outside of those two most obvious trends, it's less clear. A geographic area map makes it harder to see the dominant population in cities. For example, among big cities, the SF Bay Area is minority white -- and has lower crime rates than the most majority white cities like Columbus or Indianapolis.
I have no idea what the source is as the links are no longer valid. It is as it says based on homicide not general crime.
As far as SF is concerned, the next largest demographic other than white is east Asian, which communities have never shown a high homicide rate in the US.
Columbus and Indianapolis are about 50 percent White...so not exactly a huge majority. They both also are approaching 30 percent in another demographic that tends to be MUCH more indicative of a high violent crime rate. EDITED to add - I also suspect Columbus being the 2nd largest population of Somalis might have something to do with that "White Majority" city having high crime rates.
Quote from: DocJones on March 19, 2024, 07:39:34 PM
Quote from: jhkim on March 14, 2024, 05:54:38 PM
Quote from: DocJones on March 11, 2024, 08:10:46 PM
Diversity kills... (https://postimg.cc/kRPQPdyx)
DocJones, do you have the numbers behind those maps? The main trends I see is similar to the state-level crime maps I showed before. There are high crime rates around the high black population and high poverty region in the Southeast around Mississippi, as well as on Native American reservations.
Outside of those two most obvious trends, it's less clear. A geographic area map makes it harder to see the dominant population in cities. For example, among big cities, the SF Bay Area is minority white -- and has lower crime rates than the most majority white cities like Columbus or Indianapolis.
I have no idea what the source is as the links are no longer valid. It is as it says based on homicide not general crime.
As far as SF is concerned, the next largest demographic other than white is east Asian, which communities have never shown a high homicide rate in the US.
I'm not sure if we're disagreeing. My point was that there isn't any simple trend, as is implied by "diversity kills". The main trends are that big cities have higher crime, and that poorer neighborhoods have higher crime. There are high homicide rates are associated with Native American reservations and historically African-American ghettoes, but not with "diversity" generally.
Quote from: oggsmash on March 20, 2024, 10:00:48 AM
Columbus and Indianapolis are about 50 percent White...so not exactly a huge majority. They both also are approaching 30 percent in another demographic that tends to be MUCH more indicative of a high violent crime rate. EDITED to add - I also suspect Columbus being the 2nd largest population of Somalis might have something to do with that "White Majority" city having high crime rates.
OK, but the city with the 1st highest population of Somalis is Minneapolis, which has a much lower homicide rate than Columbus (10.0 vs 16.3 per 100k).
As far as the other demographic, you're talking about African-Americans, right? I agree that there's a lot of high-poverty, high-crime, high-black-population areas of the U.S. - including in many midwest cities and broadly in the Southeast around Mississippi. That's been that way for a long time - basically since the U.S. Civil War.
The question is, what political policies make a difference in this? I don't have an answer for that. The region around Mississippi has been a Republican stronghold for decades, and state policies don't seem to make much of a difference. On the other hand, more blue states like Illinois and Michigan haven't done much better with their high-crime cities. Though I'd note that high-immigration cities in blue states like New York and San Francisco have much lower crime rates, while also having low percentage of white people.
San fran has made many crimes non crimes. Just like NYC. There is NO policy that will fix urban crime problems caused by teens and youths. Let's see how long NYC stays "low crime" with their new influx of "immigrants". Chicago and Detroit are well known success stories in the lowering of violent crime in Illinois and Michigan.
Quote from: oggsmash on March 22, 2024, 09:54:36 AM
San fran has made many crimes non crimes. Just like NYC. There is NO policy that will fix urban crime problems caused by teens and youths. Let's see how long NYC stays "low crime" with their new influx of "immigrants". Chicago and Detroit are well known success stories in the lowering of violent crime in Illinois and Michigan.
I was talking about homicide rates, which are the most clear-cut among crime rates for comparison.
For policy, you say there's no fixing crime, but crime rates went down by nearly half across the U.S. from a peak around 1990 to the early 2000s. Rates have risen some since then, but are still below their 1990s peak. That's nationally. For specific states and cities, there are some different patterns of change. So
something changes crime rates, though I wouldn't claim I know what does it.
As far as immigration, NYC and SF have been centers for immigration for essentially all of their histories, and certainly since the trend of rising immigration since 1965. Yet their homicide rates have gone down over the past few decades. I'm open to being shown otherwise, but it looks to me like the high immigration rates don't correlate to high crime.
Crime bill reduced most of the crime rates...which many people say it was raging racist...so...
As for using homicide as a metric...you do understand we are about 3-4 times better at saving people in life threatening distress now than we were in the 90's right? So using Homicide as a violent crime metric is borderline retarded. I remember looking up Ecuador's crime rates. It had about 3.5 times the homicide rate the USA did....but...it also had 1/80th the violent crime rates.
Crime bill shows that harsh punishment for violent crime (especially when connected to street drug crimes) will reduce violent crime rates...but that sort of policy is out the window as it was "racist" due to who gets locked up from violent crimes disproportionately (despite committing such crimes disproportionately). So yeah policy is NOT going to answer it because retards making policy do not use reality as any sort of metric to make policy.
As for immigration...you yourself already said homicide is your only metric for crime (which is retarded)...so lets see how that works out now that the full weight of Hart Sellar (that reason immigration suddenly went up in 1965) bears down onto those immigrant welcome centers.
Quote from: jhkim on March 25, 2024, 11:51:51 AM
Quote from: oggsmash on March 22, 2024, 09:54:36 AM
San fran has made many crimes non crimes. Just like NYC. There is NO policy that will fix urban crime problems caused by teens and youths. Let's see how long NYC stays "low crime" with their new influx of "immigrants". Chicago and Detroit are well known success stories in the lowering of violent crime in Illinois and Michigan.
I was talking about homicide rates, which are the most clear-cut among crime rates for comparison.
For policy, you say there's no fixing crime, but crime rates went down by nearly half across the U.S. from a peak around 1990 to the early 2000s. Rates have risen some since then, but are still below their 1990s peak. That's nationally. For specific states and cities, there are some different patterns of change. So something changes crime rates, though I wouldn't claim I know what does it.
As far as immigration, NYC and SF have been centers for immigration for essentially all of their histories, and certainly since the trend of rising immigration since 1965. Yet their homicide rates have gone down over the past few decades. I'm open to being shown otherwise, but it looks to me like the high immigration rates don't correlate to high crime.
Also there was a large decrease in murder in 2023 with murder rates seeming to be going back down to pre-pandemic low levels. Unless something else happens to make murder rates go up and down murder rates should stabilize as the people who had their brains fucked by leaded gasoline are too old to get up to much murder these days.
Quote from: oggsmash on March 26, 2024, 11:00:35 AM
As for using homicide as a metric...you do understand we are about 3-4 times better at saving people in life threatening distress now than we were in the 90's right?
I attribute it to poor shot placement.
Quote from: jhkim on March 25, 2024, 11:51:51 AM
As far as immigration, NYC and SF have been centers for immigration for essentially all of their histories, and certainly since the trend of rising immigration since 1965. Yet their homicide rates have gone down over the past few decades. I'm open to being shown otherwise, but it looks to me like the high immigration rates don't correlate to high crime.
People are talking about increasing crime rate from a mass influx of illegal aliens coming over our unsecured Southern border. They are not talking about the kind of controlled immigration that happened at ports of entry like NYC or SF in previous eras. Conflating these two things is highly disingenuous. Are you just deathly allergic to responding to what people have said or addressing the actual issue at hand? Will you go into anaphylactic shock and die if you do that? I can't remember a single time I have seen you respond in good faith to the actual substance of what people are saying or the actual issue under discussion.
NYC CRIME DOWN!!! Come on guys jhkim said so....though it is strange they have the NATIONAL GUARD stationed in the subways....
Quote from: oggsmash on March 28, 2024, 10:34:02 AM
NYC CRIME DOWN!!! Come on guys jhkim said so....though it is strange they have the NATIONAL GUARD stationed in the subways....
Greetings!
Yep, Ogg, National Guard troops in New York subways, homeless tent cities everywhere, videos over and over of city streets filled with needles, whores, crime, and homeless fucks shitting in the sidewalk--but our cities are fine, Ogg. CRIME IS DOWN, YOU BIGOT! ;D
Our cities are eroding and turning into dangerous shitholes. That's right. Keep voting the DEMOCRATS into power. The nice, sweet, non-bigot Democrats have our best interests at heart!
People really need to wake the fuck up!
Semper Fidelis,
SHARK
Quote from: oggsmash on March 28, 2024, 10:34:02 AM
NYC CRIME DOWN!!! Come on guys jhkim said so....though it is strange they have the NATIONAL GUARD stationed in the subways....
The National Guard is about optics over a handful of incidents - not about general rates in a city with millions of people and thousands of violent crimes a year. These days, a lot of people understand the world only through outrage at what they see on social media. If a crime gets caught on a video that goes viral, then everyone will be scared of specifically that crime for a few weeks, then they'll forget it and be scared of whatever the next viral video that fear-mongers pass around.
I said that NYC violent crime is lower than it was at the peak rate around 1990, but it is higher now than the low point that it reached in 2017-2018.
I would keep that part about me considering you an enemy in mind as you attempt to talk to me anything crime related. It might save you a bit of time and effort.
Quote from: jhkim on March 28, 2024, 02:50:15 PM
The National Guard is about optics over a handful of incidents -
No, it's about elevated crime rates in the subways. The governor was quite clear about why she was doing it. Either you didn't bother doing a simple Google search or you are deliberately misrepresenting the reason behind this to suit your argument. Given your deathly allergy to responding to what is actually said, I suspect the latter.
Quote from: yosemitemike on March 31, 2024, 03:45:37 AM
Quote from: jhkim on March 28, 2024, 02:50:15 PM
The National Guard is about optics over a handful of incidents -
No, it's about elevated crime rates in the subways. The governor was quite clear about why she was doing it. Either you didn't bother doing a simple Google search or you are deliberately misrepresenting the reason behind this to suit your argument. Given your deathly allergy to responding to what is actually said, I suspect the latter.
Greetings!
Yeah, Yosemitemike! *Laughing* Geesus, the crime and mayhem is so bad in NY that the Governor ordered the National Guard into the chaotic subways--but Jhkim says that is all "Just Optics." JUST OPTICS? Just optics my ass. That is a really good look in optics for the Mayor of New York City and the state Governor to need to summon the National Guard. Talk about chaos, and buffoonery!
I love watching Jhkim tap dance about the crime rates. Democrat cities across the country are coming apart at the seams--homeless tent cities, mobs of violent scum roaming the streets, mobs of criminals and kids ransacking numerous stores, in broad daylight.
Yeah, the chaos and mayhem is so severe, that Walmart, CVS, Walgreens, and In & Out have all pulled their stores from cities like Oakland, San Francisco, and Los Angeles. Yeah, no one cares what the "Crime rate" was 30 years ago--the fact is, crime and lawlessness and mayhem are skyrocketing, in intensity, violence, and craziness. That's why 30 years ago, the entire temperature of the cities was substantially different.
It's just optics though, right? *Laughing*
Semper Fidelis,
SHARK
NYC is the bestest most securest city in the world you bigots!
Quote from: SHARK on March 31, 2024, 08:51:24 AM
I love watching Jhkim tap dance about the crime rates. Democrat cities across the country are coming apart at the seams--homeless tent cities, mobs of violent scum roaming the streets, mobs of criminals and kids ransacking numerous stores, in broad daylight.
SHARK, I'm the only one who has been citing crime rates. I'll point out again that you can look at the various trends in the FBI's Crime Explorer app.
https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/explorer/crime/crime-trend
If you think the crime rates are skyrocketing, what were they two years ago, what are they now, and where do you know that from? How do you know these things.
And again, I live by San Francisco. I just went into SF yesterday to have dinner with my sister who is visiting for her work. Also, I grew up just north of New York City; I lived in Manhattan from 1991-1993; and my parents and other family live there currently in Brooklyn. I was just up in NYC in February, taking public transport.
To be clear - crime is a problem, especially in the highest crime cities like St. Louis, Baltimore, or New Orleans. But the U.S. has had higher crime rates than other First World countries for decades. I was very aware of the crime problem back in 1993. My roommate was mugged in our building's elevator. I had many friends who were victimized in Chicago circa 1990. The problem hasn't gone away, but in many places it has gotten better.
Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 31, 2024, 10:30:28 PM
NYC is the bestest most securest city in the world you bigots!
and the NY National Guard being deployed there is to....what?
Quote from: jhkim on April 01, 2024, 04:19:27 PM
Quote from: SHARK on March 31, 2024, 08:51:24 AM
I love watching Jhkim tap dance about the crime rates. Democrat cities across the country are coming apart at the seams--homeless tent cities, mobs of violent scum roaming the streets, mobs of criminals and kids ransacking numerous stores, in broad daylight.
SHARK, I'm the only one who has been citing crime rates. I'll point out again that you can look at the various trends in the FBI's Crime Explorer app.
https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/explorer/crime/crime-trend
If you think the crime rates are skyrocketing, what were they two years ago, what are they now, and where do you know that from? How do you know these things.
And again, I live by San Francisco. I just went into SF yesterday to have dinner with my sister who is visiting for her work. Also, I grew up just north of New York City; I lived in Manhattan from 1991-1993; and my parents and other family live there currently in Brooklyn. I was just up in NYC in February, taking public transport.
To be clear - crime is a problem, especially in the highest crime cities like St. Louis, Baltimore, or New Orleans. But the U.S. has had higher crime rates than other First World countries for decades. I was very aware of the crime problem back in 1993. My roommate was mugged in our building's elevator. I had many friends who were victimized in Chicago circa 1990. The problem hasn't gone away, but in many places it has gotten better.
(http://i.imgur.com/9PB48xJ.jpg) (https://imgur.com/9PB48xJ)
Quote from: blackstone on April 03, 2024, 11:01:37 AM
Quote from: jhkim on April 01, 2024, 04:19:27 PM
Quote from: SHARK on March 31, 2024, 08:51:24 AM
I love watching Jhkim tap dance about the crime rates. Democrat cities across the country are coming apart at the seams--homeless tent cities, mobs of violent scum roaming the streets, mobs of criminals and kids ransacking numerous stores, in broad daylight.
SHARK, I'm the only one who has been citing crime rates. I'll point out again that you can look at the various trends in the FBI's Crime Explorer app.
https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/explorer/crime/crime-trend
If you think the crime rates are skyrocketing, what were they two years ago, what are they now, and where do you know that from? How do you know these things.
And again, I live by San Francisco. I just went into SF yesterday to have dinner with my sister who is visiting for her work. Also, I grew up just north of New York City; I lived in Manhattan from 1991-1993; and my parents and other family live there currently in Brooklyn. I was just up in NYC in February, taking public transport.
To be clear - crime is a problem, especially in the highest crime cities like St. Louis, Baltimore, or New Orleans. But the U.S. has had higher crime rates than other First World countries for decades. I was very aware of the crime problem back in 1993. My roommate was mugged in our building's elevator. I had many friends who were victimized in Chicago circa 1990. The problem hasn't gone away, but in many places it has gotten better.
(http://i.imgur.com/9PB48xJ.jpg) (https://imgur.com/9PB48xJ)
Greetings!
*Laughing* Awesome, Blackstone!
Yeah, it is like, gee, when you see with your own eyes, and hear normal people testifying to how severe and crazy the crime rate is getting all over--you would think, gee, maybe the fucking "Statistics" are fucking lying? Maybe they are distorted by the fucking government? Whoever is in charge of "the research" is fucking wrong, bottom line.
Mind blowing, you know?
I've seen normal people make videos of the crime and homeless and poverty all over America. Not media giants, or some huge companies. Just normal people, documenting and showing you right there what is going on. The people talk about what it was like 5, 10, or 20 years ago--and contrast that with what is happening now, and has been happening. Again, and again, and again.
Semper Fidelis,
SHARK
Crime "statistics"....where a brown guy illegally here from south of the border is booked in as a "White" man when he commits a murder...but is never white when a college application is filled out. I feel I should again mention...I do not trust enemies with regards to veracity of information. The people keeping the stats have stated, openly, they are my enemy.
Quote from: oggsmash on April 03, 2024, 02:05:50 PM
Crime "statistics"....where a brown guy illegally here from south of the border is booked in as a "White" man when he commits a murder...but is never white when a college application is filled out. I feel I should again mention...I do not trust enemies with regards to veracity of information. The people keeping the stats have stated, openly, they are my enemy.
Damn. That really cuts to the core. That sucks.
Quote from: blackstone on April 03, 2024, 02:15:26 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on April 03, 2024, 02:05:50 PM
Crime "statistics"....where a brown guy illegally here from south of the border is booked in as a "White" man when he commits a murder...but is never white when a college application is filled out. I feel I should again mention...I do not trust enemies with regards to veracity of information. The people keeping the stats have stated, openly, they are my enemy.
Damn. That really cuts to the core. That sucks.
Well I can only see so many peaceful protests on CNN with buildings engulfed in flames before I have a light switch that tells me people putting the numbers on paper might not be my friends. Edited to add: repeated posts here by people chanting about the 90's being so terrible and telling me to not believe my lying eyes also let me know a few things. At this point if a person votes for democrats, they are flat out the sworn enemies of white men. That is just fact. I suppose there is the outside chance they just vote for democrats and have no idea as to where they stand, policies, etc. But these people are not "political rivals". They are flat out enemies to a massive group of people in America and honestly a serious threat to order, western civilization and society in general. Maybe a bit hyperbolic...but hard not to view it this way 2024.