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The Day Blue Rose Swine Sucked It Hard

Started by RPGPundit, November 14, 2006, 10:45:40 AM

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RedFox

#15
November 22, 2006, 06:49:53 AM
Quote from: Tyberious FunkThe same argument could be made for d20.  More trouble than it's worth to make it useful.

Yeah, but I don't think anyone plays D20.  We all play games that use it as a base, maybe.  D&D 3.x, for example.  Those don't require work.
 

Sosthenes

#16
November 22, 2006, 07:14:24 AM
Quote from: RedFoxThose don't require work.

Please visualize a giant folder with "House Rules" on it. Take a deep breath. Now picture it hitting you on the forehead.

(If you feel hurt, you offended me by picturing the folder made out of a harder material than I intended. How rude.)
 

RedFox

#17
November 22, 2006, 08:38:31 AM
Quote from: SosthenesPlease visualize a giant folder with "House Rules" on it. Take a deep breath. Now picture it hitting you on the forehead.

(If you feel hurt, you offended me by picturing the folder made out of a harder material than I intended. How rude.)

D&D doesn't require house rules.  I feel comfortable running/playing, for example, Eberron straight out of the box.
 

Sosthenes

#18
November 22, 2006, 08:58:02 AM
Quote from: RedFoxD&D doesn't require house rules.  I feel comfortable running/playing, for example, Eberron straight out of the box.

Without action points?
 

RedFox

#19
November 22, 2006, 12:49:51 PM
Quote from: SosthenesWithout action points?

Out of the box.
 

Sosthenes

#20
November 22, 2006, 01:35:23 PM
Quote from: RedFoxOut of the box.

Meaning?

Action points are basically "house rules". Just because they come with the setting doesn't mean they're in the D&D "box". New feats, classes and races are a different matter, if they're not replacing core archetypes.
 

Spike

#21
November 22, 2006, 01:41:19 PM
Quote from: SosthenesMeaning?

Action points are basically "house rules". Just because they come with the setting doesn't mean they're in the D&D "box". New feats, classes and races are a different matter, if they're not replacing core archetypes.


I find is rather silly to catagorize something that comes from the publisher as a 'house rule', regardless of wether or not it comes in the core book.
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RedFox

#22
November 22, 2006, 01:46:12 PM
Quote from: SpikeI find is rather silly to catagorize something that comes from the publisher as a 'house rule', regardless of wether or not it comes in the core book.

Especially since there's like, a bunch of feats that use APs and the like.  I could honestly run it with or without, however.  *shrug*  APs aren't a huge deal.
 

Sosthenes

#23
November 22, 2006, 02:22:28 PM
Quote from: SpikeI find is rather silly to catagorize something that comes from the publisher as a 'house rule', regardless of wether or not it comes in the core book.

Well, some settings change the basic rules or add their own to the core set. Often in ways that go beyond the optinal nature of splatbooks. Call them what you like, a rose by any other name yadda yadda.

Granted, action points don't cut deeply into the main core. The rules in the FRCS regarding Monk and Paladin multi-classing would probably be a better example. Most (A)D&D settings change the rules slightly to adapt to the particular setting. Eberron mostly _adds_ options, as the basic setting was practically written to support all the stuff 3E offers.

Personally, I think the malleability of D20 is one of its best aspects. I've yet to find a game where I fit the target demographic that good to justify playing without any changes. If I'm not mistaken, even the designer of Eberron plays it as written.
 

James McMurray

#24
November 22, 2006, 07:24:05 PM
Given that he said he could rune Eberron, not generic D&D, I would think it would be obvious that he meant using the rules for Eberron. Likewise, had he said FR, the rules for multiclassing paladins and monks would seem to be a given.

PhishStyx

#25
November 25, 2006, 01:28:20 AM
Quote from: SosthenesMeaning?

Action points are basically "house rules".

I've been using the term Action Points for many years to mean something entirely different than this.
"I don't hate D20, hate's too active, like running around setting PHBs on fire. No, my dislike is more like someone who's allergic to something and thus tries avoid any contact with it." - Lord Minx (@ RPG.net)

Sosthenes

#26
November 25, 2006, 05:21:29 AM
Quote from: PhishStyxI've been using the term Action Points for many years to mean something entirely different than this.

Ewwwwww...
 

Quasar

#27
November 25, 2006, 08:08:26 AM
Quote from: RPGPunditToday, we're up to ten. As of when I'm writing, The True20 boards currently have 2482 posts, whereas the Blue Rose boards have 2472.

Yes, True20 is now officially more popular than Blue Rose.

More popular? or just that True20 forum members run off at the mouth more?
 

James McMurray

#28
November 25, 2006, 12:49:12 PM
Post counts are an incredibly dumb way to determine popularity of a game. You need to go into the boards and count how many posts are pro-game, how many anti-game, and ignore the rest. An even beter count would be how many posters are pro and anti-game.

All lots of posts mean is that there are more posts.
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