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RPGnet's decay (TBP madness)

Started by Ghostmaker, July 27, 2021, 08:10:46 AM

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Wntrlnd

Quote from: PonchoGoblin on January 28, 2022, 03:31:25 PM
So don't know if this would apply to this thread, but it seems TBP decay has spread to other woke watering holes of the hobby, considering the rpg subreddit now has a top post that is some dude's hour long video seething about how GrimJim and Pundit are "Nazis" ::) clown world at its best

I lasted 15 minutes of the fat neckbeard pointing at "Nazi's, Nazi's everywhere" boring rant, and that was with the 5 first minutes of him just going through "the Wave".

Grimjims rebuttal was much more entertaining.

PonchoGoblin

Quote from: Wntrlnd on January 29, 2022, 05:12:28 AM
Quote from: PonchoGoblin on January 28, 2022, 03:31:25 PM
So don't know if this would apply to this thread, but it seems TBP decay has spread to other woke watering holes of the hobby, considering the rpg subreddit now has a top post that is some dude's hour long video seething about how GrimJim and Pundit are "Nazis" ::) clown world at its best

I lasted 15 minutes of the fat neckbeard pointing at "Nazi's, Nazi's everywhere" boring rant, and that was with the 5 first minutes of him just going through "the Wave".

Grimjims rebuttal was much more entertaining.
It was, was mostly had a wtf with the comments in the sub, looked like the idiots from antiwork had to go somewhere and they went over to rpg
Forever GM that owns way too many books.

Ghostmaker

LOL, 'spread'. It's reddit, it's pretty heavily infested with morons as is. Sorry Poncho, it's always been pretty fucked up.

Wouldn't surprise me to see the antiwork tards tracking shit elsewhere though after that hilarious disaster of a Fox interview.

PonchoGoblin

#633
Quote from: Ghostmaker on January 29, 2022, 01:57:17 PM
LOL, 'spread'. It's reddit, it's pretty heavily infested with morons as is. Sorry Poncho, it's always been pretty fucked up.

Wouldn't surprise me to see the antiwork tards tracking shit elsewhere though after that hilarious disaster of a Fox interview.

That is true, guess I just never saw much of it since I mostly stuck to niche hobby subs like osr and others

Edit: although, I was banned from the sub for my alma mater because when Hillary was coming to give a speech, I joked that they shouldn't let criminals on campus. Ban reason was being a "nazi" (when my great grandparents were quite literally prisoners in Auschwitz...)
Forever GM that owns way too many books.

Ratman_tf

Quote from: Wntrlnd on January 29, 2022, 05:12:28 AM
Quote from: PonchoGoblin on January 28, 2022, 03:31:25 PM
So don't know if this would apply to this thread, but it seems TBP decay has spread to other woke watering holes of the hobby, considering the rpg subreddit now has a top post that is some dude's hour long video seething about how GrimJim and Pundit are "Nazis" ::) clown world at its best

I lasted 15 minutes of the fat neckbeard pointing at "Nazi's, Nazi's everywhere" boring rant, and that was with the 5 first minutes of him just going through "the Wave".

Grimjims rebuttal was much more entertaining.

I can't find it. Anyone got a link to the video in question? I'm slightly curious.
The notion of an exclusionary and hostile RPG community is a fever dream of zealots who view all social dynamics through a narrow keyhole of structural oppression.
-Haffrung

Mad Tom

Quote from: Ratman_tf on January 29, 2022, 05:48:15 PM
I can't find it. Anyone got a link to the video in question? I'm slightly curious.

Search YouTube for "The Alt-Right in Tabletop Games". Currently it comes up as the top hit, followed by Grim Jim's rebuttal video (#TTRPG #DnD RESPONSE: "The Alt-Right in Tabletop Games") as the second hit.

I'm not posting the direct link because the video has doxxing info in it and I don't know that Pundit would be cool with that.

Ratman_tf

#636
Quote from: Mad Tom on January 29, 2022, 06:22:41 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on January 29, 2022, 05:48:15 PM
I can't find it. Anyone got a link to the video in question? I'm slightly curious.

Search YouTube for "The Alt-Right in Tabletop Games". Currently it comes up as the top hit, followed by Grim Jim's rebuttal video (#TTRPG #DnD RESPONSE: "The Alt-Right in Tabletop Games") as the second hit.

I'm not posting the direct link because the video has doxxing info in it and I don't know that Pundit would be cool with that.

Thankyew.

*add*

Yeah, I made it about 20 mins in and it's all the usual stuff. Hardly worth even a commentary from me, except as a proper follow up for asking about it.
The notion of an exclusionary and hostile RPG community is a fever dream of zealots who view all social dynamics through a narrow keyhole of structural oppression.
-Haffrung

Shasarak

I found Grim Jim had some interesting takes until the Rittenhouse trial broke him.
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pathetically struggling,
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Ghostmaker

Someone eats a three-day for remarking on how bad Kickstarted products can be.

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/kingpin000-receives-a-%F0%9F%9A%AB-three-day-ban-threadban.893088/

Now, full disclosure, I did back the HBS Battletech kickstarter and got some neat stuff out of it as well as a pretty decent BT game. But I also know there have been some very well publicized disasters. It amuses me to see Dawgstar simping so hard against anyone who questions the quality of the products (the whining about how 'Made in China' is a poor look is a cute touch).

Armchair Gamer

Quote from: Ghostmaker on January 31, 2022, 11:17:13 AM
Someone eats a three-day for remarking on how bad Kickstarted products can be.

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/kingpin000-receives-a-%F0%9F%9A%AB-three-day-ban-threadban.893088/

Now, full disclosure, I did back the HBS Battletech kickstarter and got some neat stuff out of it as well as a pretty decent BT game. But I also know there have been some very well publicized disasters. It amuses me to see Dawgstar simping so hard against anyone who questions the quality of the products (the whining about how 'Made in China' is a poor look is a cute touch).

   I was struck by the bit about how 'the forums are deeply uninterested' after the thread had reached its fifth page ...

Ghostmaker

I've seen two bans now that state 'personal attacks in reports are not allowed'.

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/swamplor-receives-a-%F0%9F%9A%AB-one-day-ban.893007/
https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/nikkiro-receives-a-%F0%9F%9A%AB-one-day-ban.893098/

Which makes my antennae go up, because you wonder; was it actually a personal attack, or is the staffer just running interference for a friend and doesn't like that someone's pointing out a problem?

Nephil

#641
Quote from: Ghostmaker on January 31, 2022, 01:57:49 PM
I've seen two bans now that state 'personal attacks in reports are not allowed'.

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/swamplor-receives-a-%F0%9F%9A%AB-one-day-ban.893007/
https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/nikkiro-receives-a-%F0%9F%9A%AB-one-day-ban.893098/

Which makes my antennae go up, because you wonder; was it actually a personal attack, or is the staffer just running interference for a friend and doesn't like that someone's pointing out a problem?

Maybe it was, or maybe it wasn't. The important thing is that both or the perps are members since 2009, long enough to know that you should avoid rocking the boat since the sword cuts both ways. Never draw any attention to yourself.

Reckall

Quote from: Ratman_tf on January 29, 2022, 06:34:20 PM
Quote from: Mad Tom on January 29, 2022, 06:22:41 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on January 29, 2022, 05:48:15 PM
I can't find it. Anyone got a link to the video in question? I'm slightly curious.

Search YouTube for "The Alt-Right in Tabletop Games". Currently it comes up as the top hit, followed by Grim Jim's rebuttal video (#TTRPG #DnD RESPONSE: "The Alt-Right in Tabletop Games") as the second hit.

I'm not posting the direct link because the video has doxxing info in it and I don't know that Pundit would be cool with that.

Thankyew.

*add*

Yeah, I made it about 20 mins in and it's all the usual stuff. Hardly worth even a commentary from me, except as a proper follow up for asking about it.

The tale of the initial experiment is interesting - even if it is unacademic to draw any conclusion from a single, unsupervised, not peer-reviewed experiment.

But, boy, the rest is a mess. I reached the 30 minutes mark before defaulting - and, full disclosure here - I'm even center-left. Someone who can't understand the difference between Trump being elected in 2016 and what 1939 meant for a Polish individual shouldn't be allowed to drive a car.
For every idiot who denounces Ayn Rand as "intellectualism" there is an excellent DM who creates a "Bioshock" adventure.

Redwanderer

How many people been banned here and why? Is there a list?

Although I got a good idea why as usual with the 92%- squabbling, fear, no unity, the usual.

Ghostmaker

Quote from: Redwanderer on February 01, 2022, 03:22:28 PM
How many people been banned here and why? Is there a list?

Although I got a good idea why as usual with the 92%- squabbling, fear, no unity, the usual.
That would require a census and I'm not bored enough for that.

I will note that TBP's moderation is incredibly inconsistent and heavily biased in favor of 'someone took offense to what you said'. No matter how innocuous or innocent, if someone misinterprets it (intentionally or not), it's your (digital) head on the block. Add in the massive idpol infiltration and posting there is like navigating an unmarked minefield.

If you're curious, go through their Infractions forum and look up who ate bans. Several people posted links to said bans in this thread as well as the old TBP thread. I would note that the moderation team is NOT restricted to the rules in the same way posters are at TBP; they can get away with some fairly rancid commentary, especially in their snotty little redtexts (which, might I add, posters are not allowed to respond to).