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Reconciliation

Started by Trond, November 18, 2022, 11:14:01 AM

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Grognard GM

Quote from: Mistwell on January 01, 2023, 06:57:15 PM
Quote from: jeff37923 on January 01, 2023, 03:45:31 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on January 01, 2023, 12:09:20 PM
Quote from: jeff37923 on January 01, 2023, 06:07:06 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on December 31, 2022, 03:50:34 PM
And I got to ask, why is this about my personal business, when we were talking about reconciliation? I certainly never raised it, and even the side comment in parathesis about globalism doesn't warrant an examination of my private business.

Wow, that sweatshop comment really struck a nerve with you!
Methinks thou dost protest too much!

So, how many temp workers do you hire when cap and gown season for graduates rolls around? Or do you just ship the work south of the border because the labor is cheaper?

Naw the sweatshop comment wasn't that big a deal. It was the slave labor comment that bugged me.

Not sure what you're getting at with these questions? We hire one office worker that is temp during the cap and gown season to help enter orders. Usually the daughter of another office worker, or someone else related to someone else we know. Usually they're a college student. We don't manufacture ordinary caps and gowns. We're just delivering them during the season, often by hiring a delivery company.

There isn't some big temp worker hiring that happens during that season. And that wouldn't make sense in our business. The stuff we do is too complicated to train someone on how to do it and then let them go months later. That would be a losing proposition. We'd invest more in the training than we'd get in production. Most of our employees have been there for many years. Some over 20 years.

No we don't have any vendors in Mexico. I looked into it years ago but a small business group I belonged to had a guy who convinced me it was a horrible idea. He had a factory there for a time, and his trucks would literally get hijacked.

So you see yourself as the Mini Me version of George Soros then, how petit bourgeois of you.

I don't see my self in any way relating to George Soros. In fact the only thing I have in common with him is we're both Jewish, which I suspect is at least part of what you meant.

How on Earth would he know if you were Jewish or not?
I'm a middle aged guy with a lot of free time, looking for similar, to form a group for regular gaming. You should be chill, non-woke, and have time on your hands.

See below:

https://www.therpgsite.com/news-and-adverts/looking-to-form-a-group-of-people-with-lots-of-spare-time-for-regular-games/

jeff37923

Quote from: Grognard GM on January 01, 2023, 06:59:42 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on January 01, 2023, 06:57:15 PM
Quote from: jeff37923 on January 01, 2023, 03:45:31 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on January 01, 2023, 12:09:20 PM
Quote from: jeff37923 on January 01, 2023, 06:07:06 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on December 31, 2022, 03:50:34 PM
And I got to ask, why is this about my personal business, when we were talking about reconciliation? I certainly never raised it, and even the side comment in parathesis about globalism doesn't warrant an examination of my private business.

Wow, that sweatshop comment really struck a nerve with you!
Methinks thou dost protest too much!

So, how many temp workers do you hire when cap and gown season for graduates rolls around? Or do you just ship the work south of the border because the labor is cheaper?

Naw the sweatshop comment wasn't that big a deal. It was the slave labor comment that bugged me.

Not sure what you're getting at with these questions? We hire one office worker that is temp during the cap and gown season to help enter orders. Usually the daughter of another office worker, or someone else related to someone else we know. Usually they're a college student. We don't manufacture ordinary caps and gowns. We're just delivering them during the season, often by hiring a delivery company.

There isn't some big temp worker hiring that happens during that season. And that wouldn't make sense in our business. The stuff we do is too complicated to train someone on how to do it and then let them go months later. That would be a losing proposition. We'd invest more in the training than we'd get in production. Most of our employees have been there for many years. Some over 20 years.

No we don't have any vendors in Mexico. I looked into it years ago but a small business group I belonged to had a guy who convinced me it was a horrible idea. He had a factory there for a time, and his trucks would literally get hijacked.

So you see yourself as the Mini Me version of George Soros then, how petit bourgeois of you.

I don't see my self in any way relating to George Soros. In fact the only thing I have in common with him is we're both Jewish, which I suspect is at least part of what you meant.

How on Earth would he know if you were Jewish or not?

My Favorite Liberal Scratching Post will get mad and throw it out there.

See, he gets mad easily and then you actually get some truth out of him.
"Meh."

Mistwell

Quote from: Grognard GM on January 01, 2023, 06:59:42 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on January 01, 2023, 06:57:15 PM
Quote from: jeff37923 on January 01, 2023, 03:45:31 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on January 01, 2023, 12:09:20 PM
Quote from: jeff37923 on January 01, 2023, 06:07:06 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on December 31, 2022, 03:50:34 PM
And I got to ask, why is this about my personal business, when we were talking about reconciliation? I certainly never raised it, and even the side comment in parathesis about globalism doesn't warrant an examination of my private business.

Wow, that sweatshop comment really struck a nerve with you!
Methinks thou dost protest too much!

So, how many temp workers do you hire when cap and gown season for graduates rolls around? Or do you just ship the work south of the border because the labor is cheaper?

Naw the sweatshop comment wasn't that big a deal. It was the slave labor comment that bugged me.

Not sure what you're getting at with these questions? We hire one office worker that is temp during the cap and gown season to help enter orders. Usually the daughter of another office worker, or someone else related to someone else we know. Usually they're a college student. We don't manufacture ordinary caps and gowns. We're just delivering them during the season, often by hiring a delivery company.

There isn't some big temp worker hiring that happens during that season. And that wouldn't make sense in our business. The stuff we do is too complicated to train someone on how to do it and then let them go months later. That would be a losing proposition. We'd invest more in the training than we'd get in production. Most of our employees have been there for many years. Some over 20 years.

No we don't have any vendors in Mexico. I looked into it years ago but a small business group I belonged to had a guy who convinced me it was a horrible idea. He had a factory there for a time, and his trucks would literally get hijacked.

So you see yourself as the Mini Me version of George Soros then, how petit bourgeois of you.

I don't see my self in any way relating to George Soros. In fact the only thing I have in common with him is we're both Jewish, which I suspect is at least part of what you meant.

How on Earth would he know if you were Jewish or not?

LOL because it's been discussed here, and with him, on more than one occasion?

Mistwell

Quote from: jeff37923 on January 01, 2023, 08:25:41 PM
Quote from: Grognard GM on January 01, 2023, 06:59:42 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on January 01, 2023, 06:57:15 PM
Quote from: jeff37923 on January 01, 2023, 03:45:31 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on January 01, 2023, 12:09:20 PM
Quote from: jeff37923 on January 01, 2023, 06:07:06 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on December 31, 2022, 03:50:34 PM
And I got to ask, why is this about my personal business, when we were talking about reconciliation? I certainly never raised it, and even the side comment in parathesis about globalism doesn't warrant an examination of my private business.

Wow, that sweatshop comment really struck a nerve with you!
Methinks thou dost protest too much!

So, how many temp workers do you hire when cap and gown season for graduates rolls around? Or do you just ship the work south of the border because the labor is cheaper?

Naw the sweatshop comment wasn't that big a deal. It was the slave labor comment that bugged me.

Not sure what you're getting at with these questions? We hire one office worker that is temp during the cap and gown season to help enter orders. Usually the daughter of another office worker, or someone else related to someone else we know. Usually they're a college student. We don't manufacture ordinary caps and gowns. We're just delivering them during the season, often by hiring a delivery company.

There isn't some big temp worker hiring that happens during that season. And that wouldn't make sense in our business. The stuff we do is too complicated to train someone on how to do it and then let them go months later. That would be a losing proposition. We'd invest more in the training than we'd get in production. Most of our employees have been there for many years. Some over 20 years.

No we don't have any vendors in Mexico. I looked into it years ago but a small business group I belonged to had a guy who convinced me it was a horrible idea. He had a factory there for a time, and his trucks would literally get hijacked.

So you see yourself as the Mini Me version of George Soros then, how petit bourgeois of you.

I don't see my self in any way relating to George Soros. In fact the only thing I have in common with him is we're both Jewish, which I suspect is at least part of what you meant.

How on Earth would he know if you were Jewish or not?

My Favorite Liberal Scratching Post will get mad and throw it out there.

See, he gets mad easily and then you actually get some truth out of him.
I always tell you the truth Jeff. You just choose to disbelieve the things I say which make you uncomfortable

I'll give you a truth right now that will make you uncomfortable. Despite you disliking me, I still genuinely like you. Other than politics, we're not that dissimilar, and I appreciate your gaming knowledge and passion for gaming.

And I know you will think that's a lie to trick you. Because it makes you uncomfortable so it's just easier for you to think i'm lying. Though I'm not.

Trond

Quote from: Mistwell on January 01, 2023, 08:30:49 PM

I always tell you the truth Jeff. You just choose to disbelieve the things I say which make you uncomfortable

I'll give you a truth right now that will make you uncomfortable. Despite you disliking me, I still genuinely like you. Other than politics, we're not that dissimilar, and I appreciate your gaming knowledge and passion for gaming.

And I know you will think that's a lie to trick you. Because it makes you uncomfortable so it's just easier for you to think i'm lying. Though I'm not.

No no, that can't be the case! You must be a monster who wants America to burn, and who uses slave labor, and who probably rapes kids just for fun. In fact you must be a literal monster, sort of like the blob, sitting and typing with your slimy pseudopods. Yes I think we nailed you down there! 😄

jeff37923

Quote from: Trond on January 02, 2023, 02:05:29 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on January 01, 2023, 08:30:49 PM

I always tell you the truth Jeff. You just choose to disbelieve the things I say which make you uncomfortable

I'll give you a truth right now that will make you uncomfortable. Despite you disliking me, I still genuinely like you. Other than politics, we're not that dissimilar, and I appreciate your gaming knowledge and passion for gaming.

And I know you will think that's a lie to trick you. Because it makes you uncomfortable so it's just easier for you to think i'm lying. Though I'm not.

No no, that can't be the case! You must be a monster who wants America to burn, and who uses slave labor, and who probably rapes kids just for fun. In fact you must be a literal monster, sort of like the blob, sitting and typing with your slimy pseudopods. Yes I think we nailed you down there! 😄

Exactly! It is just like how giant redwoods produce more oxygen then all of the algae in the oceans.....
"Meh."

MeganovaStella

Quote from: Grognard GM on January 01, 2023, 06:59:42 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on January 01, 2023, 06:57:15 PM
Quote from: jeff37923 on January 01, 2023, 03:45:31 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on January 01, 2023, 12:09:20 PM
Quote from: jeff37923 on January 01, 2023, 06:07:06 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on December 31, 2022, 03:50:34 PM
And I got to ask, why is this about my personal business, when we were talking about reconciliation? I certainly never raised it, and even the side comment in parathesis about globalism doesn't warrant an examination of my private business.

Wow, that sweatshop comment really struck a nerve with you!
Methinks thou dost protest too much!

So, how many temp workers do you hire when cap and gown season for graduates rolls around? Or do you just ship the work south of the border because the labor is cheaper?

Naw the sweatshop comment wasn't that big a deal. It was the slave labor comment that bugged me.

Not sure what you're getting at with these questions? We hire one office worker that is temp during the cap and gown season to help enter orders. Usually the daughter of another office worker, or someone else related to someone else we know. Usually they're a college student. We don't manufacture ordinary caps and gowns. We're just delivering them during the season, often by hiring a delivery company.

There isn't some big temp worker hiring that happens during that season. And that wouldn't make sense in our business. The stuff we do is too complicated to train someone on how to do it and then let them go months later. That would be a losing proposition. We'd invest more in the training than we'd get in production. Most of our employees have been there for many years. Some over 20 years.

No we don't have any vendors in Mexico. I looked into it years ago but a small business group I belonged to had a guy who convinced me it was a horrible idea. He had a factory there for a time, and his trucks would literally get hijacked.

So you see yourself as the Mini Me version of George Soros then, how petit bourgeois of you.

I don't see my self in any way relating to George Soros. In fact the only thing I have in common with him is we're both Jewish, which I suspect is at least part of what you meant.

How on Earth would he know if you were Jewish or not?

he has a built-in jew detector

Grognard GM

Quote from: MeganovaStella on January 02, 2023, 08:15:08 AM
Quote from: Grognard GM on January 01, 2023, 06:59:42 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on January 01, 2023, 06:57:15 PM
Quote from: jeff37923 on January 01, 2023, 03:45:31 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on January 01, 2023, 12:09:20 PM
Quote from: jeff37923 on January 01, 2023, 06:07:06 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on December 31, 2022, 03:50:34 PM
And I got to ask, why is this about my personal business, when we were talking about reconciliation? I certainly never raised it, and even the side comment in parathesis about globalism doesn't warrant an examination of my private business.

Wow, that sweatshop comment really struck a nerve with you!
Methinks thou dost protest too much!

So, how many temp workers do you hire when cap and gown season for graduates rolls around? Or do you just ship the work south of the border because the labor is cheaper?

Naw the sweatshop comment wasn't that big a deal. It was the slave labor comment that bugged me.

Not sure what you're getting at with these questions? We hire one office worker that is temp during the cap and gown season to help enter orders. Usually the daughter of another office worker, or someone else related to someone else we know. Usually they're a college student. We don't manufacture ordinary caps and gowns. We're just delivering them during the season, often by hiring a delivery company.

There isn't some big temp worker hiring that happens during that season. And that wouldn't make sense in our business. The stuff we do is too complicated to train someone on how to do it and then let them go months later. That would be a losing proposition. We'd invest more in the training than we'd get in production. Most of our employees have been there for many years. Some over 20 years.

No we don't have any vendors in Mexico. I looked into it years ago but a small business group I belonged to had a guy who convinced me it was a horrible idea. He had a factory there for a time, and his trucks would literally get hijacked.

So you see yourself as the Mini Me version of George Soros then, how petit bourgeois of you.

I don't see my self in any way relating to George Soros. In fact the only thing I have in common with him is we're both Jewish, which I suspect is at least part of what you meant.

How on Earth would he know if you were Jewish or not?

he has a built-in jew detector

The Hans Landa of therpgsite.net
I'm a middle aged guy with a lot of free time, looking for similar, to form a group for regular gaming. You should be chill, non-woke, and have time on your hands.

See below:

https://www.therpgsite.com/news-and-adverts/looking-to-form-a-group-of-people-with-lots-of-spare-time-for-regular-games/

jeff37923

Quote from: Grognard GM on January 02, 2023, 08:28:50 AM
Quote from: MeganovaStella on January 02, 2023, 08:15:08 AM
Quote from: Grognard GM on January 01, 2023, 06:59:42 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on January 01, 2023, 06:57:15 PM
Quote from: jeff37923 on January 01, 2023, 03:45:31 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on January 01, 2023, 12:09:20 PM
Quote from: jeff37923 on January 01, 2023, 06:07:06 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on December 31, 2022, 03:50:34 PM
And I got to ask, why is this about my personal business, when we were talking about reconciliation? I certainly never raised it, and even the side comment in parathesis about globalism doesn't warrant an examination of my private business.

Wow, that sweatshop comment really struck a nerve with you!
Methinks thou dost protest too much!

So, how many temp workers do you hire when cap and gown season for graduates rolls around? Or do you just ship the work south of the border because the labor is cheaper?

Naw the sweatshop comment wasn't that big a deal. It was the slave labor comment that bugged me.

Not sure what you're getting at with these questions? We hire one office worker that is temp during the cap and gown season to help enter orders. Usually the daughter of another office worker, or someone else related to someone else we know. Usually they're a college student. We don't manufacture ordinary caps and gowns. We're just delivering them during the season, often by hiring a delivery company.

There isn't some big temp worker hiring that happens during that season. And that wouldn't make sense in our business. The stuff we do is too complicated to train someone on how to do it and then let them go months later. That would be a losing proposition. We'd invest more in the training than we'd get in production. Most of our employees have been there for many years. Some over 20 years.

No we don't have any vendors in Mexico. I looked into it years ago but a small business group I belonged to had a guy who convinced me it was a horrible idea. He had a factory there for a time, and his trucks would literally get hijacked.

So you see yourself as the Mini Me version of George Soros then, how petit bourgeois of you.

I don't see my self in any way relating to George Soros. In fact the only thing I have in common with him is we're both Jewish, which I suspect is at least part of what you meant.

How on Earth would he know if you were Jewish or not?

he has a built-in jew detector

The Hans Landa of therpgsite.net

Who?
"Meh."

Grognard GM

#489
Quote from: jeff37923 on January 02, 2023, 09:53:00 AM
Quote from: Grognard GM on January 02, 2023, 08:28:50 AM
Quote from: MeganovaStella on January 02, 2023, 08:15:08 AM
Quote from: Grognard GM on January 01, 2023, 06:59:42 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on January 01, 2023, 06:57:15 PM
Quote from: jeff37923 on January 01, 2023, 03:45:31 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on January 01, 2023, 12:09:20 PM
Quote from: jeff37923 on January 01, 2023, 06:07:06 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on December 31, 2022, 03:50:34 PM
And I got to ask, why is this about my personal business, when we were talking about reconciliation? I certainly never raised it, and even the side comment in parathesis about globalism doesn't warrant an examination of my private business.

Wow, that sweatshop comment really struck a nerve with you!
Methinks thou dost protest too much!

So, how many temp workers do you hire when cap and gown season for graduates rolls around? Or do you just ship the work south of the border because the labor is cheaper?

Naw the sweatshop comment wasn't that big a deal. It was the slave labor comment that bugged me.

Not sure what you're getting at with these questions? We hire one office worker that is temp during the cap and gown season to help enter orders. Usually the daughter of another office worker, or someone else related to someone else we know. Usually they're a college student. We don't manufacture ordinary caps and gowns. We're just delivering them during the season, often by hiring a delivery company.

There isn't some big temp worker hiring that happens during that season. And that wouldn't make sense in our business. The stuff we do is too complicated to train someone on how to do it and then let them go months later. That would be a losing proposition. We'd invest more in the training than we'd get in production. Most of our employees have been there for many years. Some over 20 years.

No we don't have any vendors in Mexico. I looked into it years ago but a small business group I belonged to had a guy who convinced me it was a horrible idea. He had a factory there for a time, and his trucks would literally get hijacked.

So you see yourself as the Mini Me version of George Soros then, how petit bourgeois of you.

I don't see my self in any way relating to George Soros. In fact the only thing I have in common with him is we're both Jewish, which I suspect is at least part of what you meant.

How on Earth would he know if you were Jewish or not?

he has a built-in jew detector

The Hans Landa of therpgsite.net

Who?

Since you seem to lack 5 seconds and a search engine, here you go:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Landa

Note that it's a quip in relation to MeganovaStella's post.
I'm a middle aged guy with a lot of free time, looking for similar, to form a group for regular gaming. You should be chill, non-woke, and have time on your hands.

See below:

https://www.therpgsite.com/news-and-adverts/looking-to-form-a-group-of-people-with-lots-of-spare-time-for-regular-games/

Mistwell

#490
I've mentioned I am Jewish several times here at RPGsite, and it's never been a big deal or really much commented on. For example, I mentioned it in the Bob Bledsaw II thread. Not the only thread where it has come up.

I'm not particularly devout as I don't go to temple very often. Acouple times a year, and I observe major holidays. Reformed sect temple when I do. 

jeff37923

Quote from: Grognard GM on January 02, 2023, 11:16:00 AM
Quote from: jeff37923 on January 02, 2023, 09:53:00 AM
Quote from: Grognard GM on January 02, 2023, 08:28:50 AM
Quote from: MeganovaStella on January 02, 2023, 08:15:08 AM
Quote from: Grognard GM on January 01, 2023, 06:59:42 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on January 01, 2023, 06:57:15 PM
Quote from: jeff37923 on January 01, 2023, 03:45:31 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on January 01, 2023, 12:09:20 PM
Quote from: jeff37923 on January 01, 2023, 06:07:06 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on December 31, 2022, 03:50:34 PM
And I got to ask, why is this about my personal business, when we were talking about reconciliation? I certainly never raised it, and even the side comment in parathesis about globalism doesn't warrant an examination of my private business.

Wow, that sweatshop comment really struck a nerve with you!
Methinks thou dost protest too much!

So, how many temp workers do you hire when cap and gown season for graduates rolls around? Or do you just ship the work south of the border because the labor is cheaper?

Naw the sweatshop comment wasn't that big a deal. It was the slave labor comment that bugged me.

Not sure what you're getting at with these questions? We hire one office worker that is temp during the cap and gown season to help enter orders. Usually the daughter of another office worker, or someone else related to someone else we know. Usually they're a college student. We don't manufacture ordinary caps and gowns. We're just delivering them during the season, often by hiring a delivery company.

There isn't some big temp worker hiring that happens during that season. And that wouldn't make sense in our business. The stuff we do is too complicated to train someone on how to do it and then let them go months later. That would be a losing proposition. We'd invest more in the training than we'd get in production. Most of our employees have been there for many years. Some over 20 years.

No we don't have any vendors in Mexico. I looked into it years ago but a small business group I belonged to had a guy who convinced me it was a horrible idea. He had a factory there for a time, and his trucks would literally get hijacked.

So you see yourself as the Mini Me version of George Soros then, how petit bourgeois of you.

I don't see my self in any way relating to George Soros. In fact the only thing I have in common with him is we're both Jewish, which I suspect is at least part of what you meant.

How on Earth would he know if you were Jewish or not?

he has a built-in jew detector

The Hans Landa of therpgsite.net

Who?

Since you seem to lack 5 seconds and a search engine, here you go:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Landa

So I'm played by an actor who won the Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor, the Golden Globe Award for Best Supporting Actor and the Best Actor Award at the 2009 Cannes Film Festival, among other awards. Whom Quentin Tarantino has said that Hans Landa might be the greatest character he has ever written.

Thank you! That is the nicest thing anyone has said to me today!

Quote from: Grognard GM on January 02, 2023, 11:16:00 AM
Note that it's a quip in relation to MeganovaStella's post.

Which one?
"Meh."

jeff37923

Quote from: Mistwell on January 02, 2023, 11:56:08 AM
I've mentioned I am Jewish several times here at RPGsite, and it's never been a big deal or really much commented on. For example, I mentioned it in the Bob Bledsaw II thread. Not the only thread where it has come up.

I'm not particularly devout as I don't go to temple very often. Acouple times a year, and I observe major holidays. Reformed sect temple when I do.

Never registered with me.

I do remember when you ran over to CIRCVS MAXIMVS trying to mock Pundit in order to create some cross-forum drama and they laughed you out of there.
"Meh."

jhkim

Quote from: MerrillWeathermay on December 31, 2022, 07:20:04 PM
There isn't any possible reconciliation or understanding between the radical. We need to find the people who are sensible, ethical, and logical (at least to some degree), and pull them away from the crazies.

Hi, MerrillWeathermay. I agree, though my expectations are very low. It's vanishingly rare for someone to change their general outlook. Still, someone can gain some understanding on a particular issue, or moderate on a few specifics.

I'd include radicals in this, too. For example, Alathon has a radical position in his ethno-nationalism - but he was willing to discuss it rationally in the past. He didn't engaged in personal attacks or unethical behavior that I saw, so I'm disappointed he is banned. I think often, radicalism is only maintained by constant silo of information. That's why cults try to disconnect people away from their family and friends, say.

For people to shift their position in any way, though, there needs to be honest communication about real and concrete experiences. For example, I have my personal experiences with my transgender friends and family. Any shift in my attitudes about transgender people can't contradict this. Conversely, though, I don't know your experiences with transgender people - and maybe learning your experiences will change my understanding.

Grognard GM

Quote from: jeff37923 on January 02, 2023, 01:37:49 PMWhich one?

MeganovaStella: 'he has a built-in jew detector'

My quip reply: 'The Hans Landa of therpgsite.net'
I'm a middle aged guy with a lot of free time, looking for similar, to form a group for regular gaming. You should be chill, non-woke, and have time on your hands.

See below:

https://www.therpgsite.com/news-and-adverts/looking-to-form-a-group-of-people-with-lots-of-spare-time-for-regular-games/