Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!

[oggsmash]

I've been thinking about this and I couldn't live with myself if I hadn't brought my children up to challenge injustice they see. I don't see how giving an example of just keeping your head down is a good thing.

OTOH I try not to judge other peoples parental decisions, frankly managing to keep kids alive and emotionally safe is hard work.

IDK do you think that giving an example of bowing to an oppressive system is a good thing. I'm a bit leery but that guy who stood in front of the tank in Tianeman Square probably didn't have a good end. Mibbee it's better to show our bairns that they should do what they're telt.

  From what I have seen of your commentary you seem to just go along with whatever the government feeds you or stand strong against "injustice" in the form of whatever institutions have told you to stand strong against.   I hate to be the one to tell you this, but if you are standing with all the corporations, institutions, and government...it is not brave or anything worth talking about.  If you have raised your kids to challenge injustice and not taught them how to fight...I wonder what sort of masturbatory exercise you are undertaking here.

A quite complicated one it seems.

I fucking hate the current UK government with quite a passion. They're a bunch of incompetent, privileged arseholes who are driving my country into the ground. How dare you accuse me of believing a word they say.

So now we've got that short wank out of the way. You're doing that awful binary thing again where it's all you're completes nuts conspiracy or we all bow to our overlords. There's a real world out there with real people who approach politics with a tiny bit of nuance. Not much for many of them but at least a bit.

  So by your own concerns and standards about standing up to injustice and getting out there and fighting you are a hypocrite coward?   Do you not see how retarded these things look together?  You berate a dude who has concerns he might be getting lied to (which honestly looks more like concern trolling/fed posting) for not getting out there and "fighting" while you sit around now tossing out nuance.  Come on...if you are going to be  a troll be a good one.

I'm having a bit of trouble trying to parse this whole thing. To be more proactive than Keiro when it comes to politics I literally only have to mention my opinions in real life. That's it, nothing else. Give me a lower bar to ask somebody to do when they fear that there's going to be an oppressive worldwide government. He's stated that he only talks about it here because he's scared of saying it to anybody IRL.

I don't get the trolling thing unless being challenging is trolling. I just asked what he was doing  to try to fix it. I know I don't do enough but I value my time when I have marched, my union work and challenging people in real life. I clearly don't agree with what I see as frankly insane ideas that you and Kiero hold but I'd thought there might be some real life engagement.

Your whole accusation is just weird.

  Point out an insane idea I have put out here.... as for Kiero...You can get locked up in the UK for talking too much about, well anything the government decides can be "hateful" can you not?   It seems you do all the things that carry zero risk/are on the side with no risk.  So it seemed strange to me you criticize him for not getting out there and making his position known loud and clear on the streets when your protests probably carry government and corporate sponsorship.  I am in the USA... and have no problems with some real life engagement...but we still do not get locked up (just yet) for saying something someone characterized as "mean" on the internet.

This post is full of insane ideas, thanks for not forcing me to look at anything else. I've really not been on a corporate sponsored protest in my life, I'm not even sure what that would entail. I did once try the Coca-Cola vs Pepsi taste test, would that count.

Kiero argues he can't even discuss his positions with people he knows because he'll have the same fate as Tianeman Square man. I'm sure you think he'd be taking an extreme risk by saying something over coffee but that's an insane idea.

As I said upthread we're not even getting to t'internet here.

  So no examples?  I have a feeling anything you disagree with is "insane".   A bit of a narcissistic view of the world...but not anything surprising from your ilk.

[Garry G]

Gaz, my boy, you operate under the misapprehension that I could give a flying fuck what you or anyone else thinks about how my views come across. The fact that you use the bullshit phrase "alt-right" unironically tells me much.

Even moreso that you think the current government is any different from what we've had since 1997, because Continuity Blairism has been the only thing on offer for almost three decades now. If we take a step back still further, the only departure from the globalist hegemony we've had since paedo Wilson rigged the referendum to stay in the EC was Thatcher's government. And it's telling that she was defenestrated the moment she questioned the EEC as was.

If I shared some of the things I've said here on Twatter, I'd get banned. Possibly even have a visit from the police, if the right wokist arsehole reported it. Have you forgotten when Count Dankula (who lives in your country) got his collar felt for the "crime" of making fun of Grenfell residents? Crass and offensive, sure, but there used to be a time when hurting people's feelings wasn't against the law.

I'm looking forward to the reverse ferreting you're going to have to do over the jabs when they finally admit how much harm they've done to people (but don't worry, you can't sue anyone because the manufacturers are immune - the only people who are).

You know I actually have no answer to this. You win through the sheer power of your nuttery, there's no conversation to have with you and you'll only really converse with people who share your weird views and so you're trapped in them. I'm not saying that I won't challenge them because I was brought up to challenge but I understand that you've gotten so far to the extreme that you don't care.

You don't have to care what I think but I still care about what you think. I believe you're better than this and can can get back to a reasonable position. I don't like what this does to you.

[Garry G]

I've been thinking about this and I couldn't live with myself if I hadn't brought my children up to challenge injustice they see. I don't see how giving an example of just keeping your head down is a good thing.

OTOH I try not to judge other peoples parental decisions, frankly managing to keep kids alive and emotionally safe is hard work.

IDK do you think that giving an example of bowing to an oppressive system is a good thing. I'm a bit leery but that guy who stood in front of the tank in Tianeman Square probably didn't have a good end. Mibbee it's better to show our bairns that they should do what they're telt.

  From what I have seen of your commentary you seem to just go along with whatever the government feeds you or stand strong against "injustice" in the form of whatever institutions have told you to stand strong against.   I hate to be the one to tell you this, but if you are standing with all the corporations, institutions, and government...it is not brave or anything worth talking about.  If you have raised your kids to challenge injustice and not taught them how to fight...I wonder what sort of masturbatory exercise you are undertaking here.

A quite complicated one it seems.

I fucking hate the current UK government with quite a passion. They're a bunch of incompetent, privileged arseholes who are driving my country into the ground. How dare you accuse me of believing a word they say.

So now we've got that short wank out of the way. You're doing that awful binary thing again where it's all you're completes nuts conspiracy or we all bow to our overlords. There's a real world out there with real people who approach politics with a tiny bit of nuance. Not much for many of them but at least a bit.

  So by your own concerns and standards about standing up to injustice and getting out there and fighting you are a hypocrite coward?   Do you not see how retarded these things look together?  You berate a dude who has concerns he might be getting lied to (which honestly looks more like concern trolling/fed posting) for not getting out there and "fighting" while you sit around now tossing out nuance.  Come on...if you are going to be  a troll be a good one.

I'm having a bit of trouble trying to parse this whole thing. To be more proactive than Keiro when it comes to politics I literally only have to mention my opinions in real life. That's it, nothing else. Give me a lower bar to ask somebody to do when they fear that there's going to be an oppressive worldwide government. He's stated that he only talks about it here because he's scared of saying it to anybody IRL.

I don't get the trolling thing unless being challenging is trolling. I just asked what he was doing  to try to fix it. I know I don't do enough but I value my time when I have marched, my union work and challenging people in real life. I clearly don't agree with what I see as frankly insane ideas that you and Kiero hold but I'd thought there might be some real life engagement.

Your whole accusation is just weird.

  Point out an insane idea I have put out here.... as for Kiero...You can get locked up in the UK for talking too much about, well anything the government decides can be "hateful" can you not?   It seems you do all the things that carry zero risk/are on the side with no risk.  So it seemed strange to me you criticize him for not getting out there and making his position known loud and clear on the streets when your protests probably carry government and corporate sponsorship.  I am in the USA... and have no problems with some real life engagement...but we still do not get locked up (just yet) for saying something someone characterized as "mean" on the internet.

This post is full of insane ideas, thanks for not forcing me to look at anything else. I've really not been on a corporate sponsored protest in my life, I'm not even sure what that would entail. I did once try the Coca-Cola vs Pepsi taste test, would that count.

Kiero argues he can't even discuss his positions with people he knows because he'll have the same fate as Tianeman Square man. I'm sure you think he'd be taking an extreme risk by saying something over coffee but that's an insane idea.

As I said upthread we're not even getting to t'internet here.

  So no examples?  I have a feeling anything you disagree with is "insane".   A bit of a narcissistic view of the world...but not anything surprising from your ilk.

I pointed out that your post was full of insane ideas, it's like in the thing I wrote.

[oggsmash]

I've been thinking about this and I couldn't live with myself if I hadn't brought my children up to challenge injustice they see. I don't see how giving an example of just keeping your head down is a good thing.

OTOH I try not to judge other peoples parental decisions, frankly managing to keep kids alive and emotionally safe is hard work.

IDK do you think that giving an example of bowing to an oppressive system is a good thing. I'm a bit leery but that guy who stood in front of the tank in Tianeman Square probably didn't have a good end. Mibbee it's better to show our bairns that they should do what they're telt.

  From what I have seen of your commentary you seem to just go along with whatever the government feeds you or stand strong against "injustice" in the form of whatever institutions have told you to stand strong against.   I hate to be the one to tell you this, but if you are standing with all the corporations, institutions, and government...it is not brave or anything worth talking about.  If you have raised your kids to challenge injustice and not taught them how to fight...I wonder what sort of masturbatory exercise you are undertaking here.

A quite complicated one it seems.

I fucking hate the current UK government with quite a passion. They're a bunch of incompetent, privileged arseholes who are driving my country into the ground. How dare you accuse me of believing a word they say.

So now we've got that short wank out of the way. You're doing that awful binary thing again where it's all you're completes nuts conspiracy or we all bow to our overlords. There's a real world out there with real people who approach politics with a tiny bit of nuance. Not much for many of them but at least a bit.

  So by your own concerns and standards about standing up to injustice and getting out there and fighting you are a hypocrite coward?   Do you not see how retarded these things look together?  You berate a dude who has concerns he might be getting lied to (which honestly looks more like concern trolling/fed posting) for not getting out there and "fighting" while you sit around now tossing out nuance.  Come on...if you are going to be  a troll be a good one.

I'm having a bit of trouble trying to parse this whole thing. To be more proactive than Keiro when it comes to politics I literally only have to mention my opinions in real life. That's it, nothing else. Give me a lower bar to ask somebody to do when they fear that there's going to be an oppressive worldwide government. He's stated that he only talks about it here because he's scared of saying it to anybody IRL.

I don't get the trolling thing unless being challenging is trolling. I just asked what he was doing  to try to fix it. I know I don't do enough but I value my time when I have marched, my union work and challenging people in real life. I clearly don't agree with what I see as frankly insane ideas that you and Kiero hold but I'd thought there might be some real life engagement.

Your whole accusation is just weird.

  Point out an insane idea I have put out here.... as for Kiero...You can get locked up in the UK for talking too much about, well anything the government decides can be "hateful" can you not?   It seems you do all the things that carry zero risk/are on the side with no risk.  So it seemed strange to me you criticize him for not getting out there and making his position known loud and clear on the streets when your protests probably carry government and corporate sponsorship.  I am in the USA... and have no problems with some real life engagement...but we still do not get locked up (just yet) for saying something someone characterized as "mean" on the internet.

This post is full of insane ideas, thanks for not forcing me to look at anything else. I've really not been on a corporate sponsored protest in my life, I'm not even sure what that would entail. I did once try the Coca-Cola vs Pepsi taste test, would that count.

Kiero argues he can't even discuss his positions with people he knows because he'll have the same fate as Tianeman Square man. I'm sure you think he'd be taking an extreme risk by saying something over coffee but that's an insane idea.

As I said upthread we're not even getting to t'internet here.

  So no examples?  I have a feeling anything you disagree with is "insane".   A bit of a narcissistic view of the world...but not anything surprising from your ilk.

I pointed out that your post was full of insane ideas, it's like in the thing I wrote.

    I read what you wrote...if that meets your definition it explains a whole lot about you.

[Kiero]

You know I actually have no answer to this. You win through the sheer power of your nuttery, there's no conversation to have with you and you'll only really converse with people who share your weird views and so you're trapped in them. I'm not saying that I won't challenge them because I was brought up to challenge but I understand that you've gotten so far to the extreme that you don't care.

You don't have to care what I think but I still care about what you think. I believe you're better than this and can can get back to a reasonable position. I don't like what this does to you.

There is no "reasonable position" to be had when the world is controlled by evil fuckers who are enabled by their tame media who lie to us constantly.

[Exploderwizard]

You know I actually have no answer to this. You win through the sheer power of your nuttery, there's no conversation to have with you and you'll only really converse with people who share your weird views and so you're trapped in them. I'm not saying that I won't challenge them because I was brought up to challenge but I understand that you've gotten so far to the extreme that you don't care.

You don't have to care what I think but I still care about what you think. I believe you're better than this and can can get back to a reasonable position. I don't like what this does to you.

There is no "reasonable position" to be had when the world is controlled by evil fuckers who are enabled by their tame media who lie to us constantly.

There certainly is. The reasonable position logically is the elimination of evil fuckers along with the tame media and other actors who enabled them. Completely reasonable and necessary for continued survival & freedom.

[Garry G]

You know I actually have no answer to this. You win through the sheer power of your nuttery, there's no conversation to have with you and you'll only really converse with people who share your weird views and so you're trapped in them. I'm not saying that I won't challenge them because I was brought up to challenge but I understand that you've gotten so far to the extreme that you don't care.

You don't have to care what I think but I still care about what you think. I believe you're better than this and can can get back to a reasonable position. I don't like what this does to you.

There is no "reasonable position" to be had when the world is controlled by evil fuckers who are enabled by their tame media who lie to us constantly.

There certainly is. The reasonable position logically is the elimination of evil fuckers along with the tame media and other actors who enabled them. Completely reasonable and necessary for continued survival & freedom.

Kiero isn't into that, he's keeping his head down and hoping it blows over.

[oggsmash]

  Well the people willing to fight and die for stuff like that left Europe a looong time ago.  So I do not see much changing....though Ireland is getting spicy....

[Exploderwizard]

  Well the people willing to fight and die for stuff like that left Europe a looong time ago.  So I do not see much changing....though Ireland is getting spicy....

When you try and tell a people that they don't have the right to be angry when foreign invaders kill their children expect pushback. With the Irish expect a lot more than that.

[SHARK]

Greetings!

"Hard Times, creates strong men.

Strong Men create Good Times.

Good Times creates weak men.

Weak men create bad times.

Bad times creates Strong Men."

We are seeing this cycle play out in such a powerful manner. Ireland needs to get their shit together, or they will be corrupted into a third-world cesspool.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

[Ratman_tf]

Fauci admits social distancing was made up bullshit.

This man belongs in jail.

[Grognard GM]

Fauci admits social distancing was made up bullshit.

This man belongs in jail.

He has so many layers of social ablative armor, he's impervious. He could gun people down in the street and walk off whistling.

[oggsmash]

  Well the people willing to fight and die for stuff like that left Europe a looong time ago.  So I do not see much changing....though Ireland is getting spicy....

When you try and tell a people that they don't have the right to be angry when foreign invaders kill their children expect pushback. With the Irish expect a lot more than that.

  I do remember a time when pissed off Irishmen meant bodies in the street and cars exploding.  It was not that long ago.

[Grognard GM]

  Well the people willing to fight and die for stuff like that left Europe a looong time ago.

Look, I'm as proud of being an American as the next guy, but let's wake up and smell the reality shall we?

For all the larping from militia types with their arsenal of weapons, 'ready to water the tree of liberty,' jack and shit has happened. Every time rights are stripped away, there's grumbling, and nothing happens. Schrodinger's Patriots.

So maybe strut to the Europeans a little less, and consider that the spirit of 76 may be a little fucking absent on both sides of the pond. 

[squirewaldo]

  Well the people willing to fight and die for stuff like that left Europe a looong time ago.

Look, I'm as proud of being an American as the next guy, but let's wake up and smell the reality shall we?

For all the larping from militia types with their arsenal of weapons, 'ready to water the tree of liberty,' jack and shit has happened. Every time rights are stripped away, there's grumbling, and nothing happens. Schrodinger's Patriots.

So maybe strut to the Europeans a little less, and consider that the spirit of 76 may be a little fucking absent on both sides of the pond.

Sadly, I must conclude you are correct. The militia types won't even peacefully protest -- the 2nd Amendment has just become a gun collecting fetish. The only people willing to do anything are on the Left, and it seems to me they have won.