Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!

[Exploderwizard]

I've been thinking about this and I couldn't live with myself if I hadn't brought my children up to challenge injustice they see. I don't see how giving an example of just keeping your head down is a good thing.

OTOH I try not to judge other peoples parental decisions, frankly managing to keep kids alive and emotionally safe is hard work.

IDK do you think that giving an example of bowing to an oppressive system is a good thing. I'm a bit leery but that guy who stood in front of the tank in Tianeman Square probably didn't have a good end. Mibbee it's better to show our bairns that they should do what they're telt.

An important survival skill is knowing when to stand fast and when to fight.

[oggsmash]

I've been thinking about this and I couldn't live with myself if I hadn't brought my children up to challenge injustice they see. I don't see how giving an example of just keeping your head down is a good thing.

OTOH I try not to judge other peoples parental decisions, frankly managing to keep kids alive and emotionally safe is hard work.

IDK do you think that giving an example of bowing to an oppressive system is a good thing. I'm a bit leery but that guy who stood in front of the tank in Tianeman Square probably didn't have a good end. Mibbee it's better to show our bairns that they should do what they're telt.

  From what I have seen of your commentary you seem to just go along with whatever the government feeds you or stand strong against "injustice" in the form of whatever institutions have told you to stand strong against.   I hate to be the one to tell you this, but if you are standing with all the corporations, institutions, and government...it is not brave or anything worth talking about.  If you have raised your kids to challenge injustice and not taught them how to fight...I wonder what sort of masturbatory exercise you are undertaking here. 

[GamerSince77]

From what I have seen of your commentary you seem to just go along with whatever the government feeds you or stand strong against "injustice" in the form of whatever institutions have told you to stand strong against.   I hate to be the one to tell you this, but if you are standing with all the corporations, institutions, and government...it is not brave or anything worth talking about.  If you have raised your kids to challenge injustice and not taught them how to fight...I wonder what sort of masturbatory exercise you are undertaking here.

From what I've seen, Oggy, it seems like you don't think at all. You just automatically reject anything reported in the MSM. If you only trust what the "alternative media" pushes, that makes you a reactionary, not a rebel. Try thinking for yourself rather than regurgitating Alex Jones-style talking points.

[Kiero]

I've been thinking about this and I couldn't live with myself if I hadn't brought my children up to challenge injustice they see. I don't see how giving an example of just keeping your head down is a good thing.

OTOH I try not to judge other peoples parental decisions, frankly managing to keep kids alive and emotionally safe is hard work.

IDK do you think that giving an example of bowing to an oppressive system is a good thing. I'm a bit leery but that guy who stood in front of the tank in Tianeman Square probably didn't have a good end. Mibbee it's better to show our bairns that they should do what they're telt.

It's real easy to "stand up for your beliefs" when they're endorsed by the establishment and don't carry any threat of imprisonment for expressing them.

Meanwhile, Ireland is apparently the test bed for the next level of censorship and oppression. Don't deal with the problems caused by the huge levels of migration they've endured, just lock up anyone who notices them.

[Exploderwizard]

From what I have seen of your commentary you seem to just go along with whatever the government feeds you or stand strong against "injustice" in the form of whatever institutions have told you to stand strong against.   I hate to be the one to tell you this, but if you are standing with all the corporations, institutions, and government...it is not brave or anything worth talking about.  If you have raised your kids to challenge injustice and not taught them how to fight...I wonder what sort of masturbatory exercise you are undertaking here.

From what I've seen, Oggy, it seems like you don't think at all. You just automatically reject anything reported in the MSM. If you only trust what the "alternative media" pushes, that makes you a reactionary, not a rebel. Try thinking for yourself rather than regurgitating Alex Jones-style talking points.

Well in fairness, when the difference between a conspiracy theory and truth ends up being about six months to a couple years, one either starts catching on or not.

[Chris24601]

From what I have seen of your commentary you seem to just go along with whatever the government feeds you or stand strong against "injustice" in the form of whatever institutions have told you to stand strong against.   I hate to be the one to tell you this, but if you are standing with all the corporations, institutions, and government...it is not brave or anything worth talking about.  If you have raised your kids to challenge injustice and not taught them how to fight...I wonder what sort of masturbatory exercise you are undertaking here.

From what I've seen, Oggy, it seems like you don't think at all. You just automatically reject anything reported in the MSM. If you only trust what the "alternative media" pushes, that makes you a reactionary, not a rebel. Try thinking for yourself rather than regurgitating Alex Jones-style talking points.

Well in fairness, when the difference between a conspiracy theory and truth ends up being about six months to a couple years, one either starts catching on or not.

The entire concept of "conspiracy theory" as something to be scoffed at was actually cooked up by the CIA to try belittle people's claims that JFK had been assassinated by the CIA. Today we've got pretty solid evidence the CIA did have JFK assassinated.

i.e. Conspiracy theories are just facts those in power don't want people to pay attention to.

[GeekyBugle]

From what I have seen of your commentary you seem to just go along with whatever the government feeds you or stand strong against "injustice" in the form of whatever institutions have told you to stand strong against.   I hate to be the one to tell you this, but if you are standing with all the corporations, institutions, and government...it is not brave or anything worth talking about.  If you have raised your kids to challenge injustice and not taught them how to fight...I wonder what sort of masturbatory exercise you are undertaking here.

From what I've seen, Oggy, it seems like you don't think at all. You just automatically reject anything reported in the MSM. If you only trust what the "alternative media" pushes, that makes you a reactionary, not a rebel. Try thinking for yourself rather than regurgitating Alex Jones-style talking points.

LOL, so a "reactionary" is someone who is against the mainstream, the establishment and the status quo? Meanwhile the rebel is in support of all of those?

FFS get a clue, we could even lend you some money so you can buy one, but I fear your brain is useless from all that koolaid you've been guzling by the galons.

[Garry G]

I've been thinking about this and I couldn't live with myself if I hadn't brought my children up to challenge injustice they see. I don't see how giving an example of just keeping your head down is a good thing.

OTOH I try not to judge other peoples parental decisions, frankly managing to keep kids alive and emotionally safe is hard work.

IDK do you think that giving an example of bowing to an oppressive system is a good thing. I'm a bit leery but that guy who stood in front of the tank in Tianeman Square probably didn't have a good end. Mibbee it's better to show our bairns that they should do what they're telt.

It's real easy to "stand up for your beliefs" when they're endorsed by the establishment and don't carry any threat of imprisonment for expressing them.

Meanwhile, Ireland is apparently the test bed for the next level of censorship and oppression. Don't deal with the problems caused by the huge levels of migration they've endured, just lock up anyone who notices them.

It's easier still to not stand up to anything and just accept things you know are wrong. Go somewhere where nobody can identify you and whine a bit about it but in the end accept what you're given like a good sheeple.

I'm not judging your parenting decisions really. It is hard, I'm just pointing out what you're telling them. I personally could never tell my bairns just to do what they're telt and bow down to any government, I want them to do what they feel right. Nice use of the Scots BTW.

Ireland seems to me to be the next test bed of far right nuttery exploding in a quite frankly horrible way.

Speak up for yourself. You're absolutely not going to be the Tianeman Square guy believe me. Try to accept that I'm not here as some sort of schill for some worldwide governmental conspiracy, I'm just a bloke who looks at the chaos of the last 13 years of UK government and finds the idea of anything being planned to be laughable. Work on convincing me and the other sheeple, you can do it gently if you're that scared of the stasi turning up at your door.

Just be aware that you look like a weird alt-right conspiracy theorist who can't draw the lines between his beliefs and reality. Actually that's a good poit, learn how to explain yourself better because that's how you look.

As it stands I hold to what I've said before. You're feart, pick up on that it's a good Scots word, and you look like you're just passing it on. Nothing you believe matters because you'll just let the oncoming dystopia you believe in happen because of that. That makes you worse than anybody you describe as sheeple.

[Garry G]

I've been thinking about this and I couldn't live with myself if I hadn't brought my children up to challenge injustice they see. I don't see how giving an example of just keeping your head down is a good thing.

OTOH I try not to judge other peoples parental decisions, frankly managing to keep kids alive and emotionally safe is hard work.

IDK do you think that giving an example of bowing to an oppressive system is a good thing. I'm a bit leery but that guy who stood in front of the tank in Tianeman Square probably didn't have a good end. Mibbee it's better to show our bairns that they should do what they're telt.

  From what I have seen of your commentary you seem to just go along with whatever the government feeds you or stand strong against "injustice" in the form of whatever institutions have told you to stand strong against.   I hate to be the one to tell you this, but if you are standing with all the corporations, institutions, and government...it is not brave or anything worth talking about.  If you have raised your kids to challenge injustice and not taught them how to fight...I wonder what sort of masturbatory exercise you are undertaking here.

A quite complicated one it seems.

I fucking hate the current UK government with quite a passion. They're a bunch of incompetent, privileged arseholes who are driving my country into the ground. How dare you accuse me of believing a word they say.

So now we've got that short wank out of the way. You're doing that awful binary thing again where it's all you're completes nuts conspiracy or we all bow to our overlords. There's a real world out there with real people who approach politics with a tiny bit of nuance. Not much for many of them but at least a bit.

[oggsmash]

From what I have seen of your commentary you seem to just go along with whatever the government feeds you or stand strong against "injustice" in the form of whatever institutions have told you to stand strong against.   I hate to be the one to tell you this, but if you are standing with all the corporations, institutions, and government...it is not brave or anything worth talking about.  If you have raised your kids to challenge injustice and not taught them how to fight...I wonder what sort of masturbatory exercise you are undertaking here.

From what I've seen, Oggy, it seems like you don't think at all. You just automatically reject anything reported in the MSM. If you only trust what the "alternative media" pushes, that makes you a reactionary, not a rebel. Try thinking for yourself rather than regurgitating Alex Jones-style talking points.

  I do not really worry about labels or opinions from my enemies.  I also think if you are late for your booster you need to get up to date immediately since you must feel those shots were needed.  Good luck.

[oggsmash]

I've been thinking about this and I couldn't live with myself if I hadn't brought my children up to challenge injustice they see. I don't see how giving an example of just keeping your head down is a good thing.

OTOH I try not to judge other peoples parental decisions, frankly managing to keep kids alive and emotionally safe is hard work.

IDK do you think that giving an example of bowing to an oppressive system is a good thing. I'm a bit leery but that guy who stood in front of the tank in Tianeman Square probably didn't have a good end. Mibbee it's better to show our bairns that they should do what they're telt.

  From what I have seen of your commentary you seem to just go along with whatever the government feeds you or stand strong against "injustice" in the form of whatever institutions have told you to stand strong against.   I hate to be the one to tell you this, but if you are standing with all the corporations, institutions, and government...it is not brave or anything worth talking about.  If you have raised your kids to challenge injustice and not taught them how to fight...I wonder what sort of masturbatory exercise you are undertaking here.

A quite complicated one it seems.

I fucking hate the current UK government with quite a passion. They're a bunch of incompetent, privileged arseholes who are driving my country into the ground. How dare you accuse me of believing a word they say.

So now we've got that short wank out of the way. You're doing that awful binary thing again where it's all you're completes nuts conspiracy or we all bow to our overlords. There's a real world out there with real people who approach politics with a tiny bit of nuance. Not much for many of them but at least a bit.

  So by your own concerns and standards about standing up to injustice and getting out there and fighting you are a hypocrite coward?   Do you not see how retarded these things look together?  You berate a dude who has concerns he might be getting lied to (which honestly looks more like concern trolling/fed posting) for not getting out there and "fighting" while you sit around now tossing out nuance.  Come on...if you are going to be  a troll be a good one.

[Garry G]

I've been thinking about this and I couldn't live with myself if I hadn't brought my children up to challenge injustice they see. I don't see how giving an example of just keeping your head down is a good thing.

OTOH I try not to judge other peoples parental decisions, frankly managing to keep kids alive and emotionally safe is hard work.

IDK do you think that giving an example of bowing to an oppressive system is a good thing. I'm a bit leery but that guy who stood in front of the tank in Tianeman Square probably didn't have a good end. Mibbee it's better to show our bairns that they should do what they're telt.

  From what I have seen of your commentary you seem to just go along with whatever the government feeds you or stand strong against "injustice" in the form of whatever institutions have told you to stand strong against.   I hate to be the one to tell you this, but if you are standing with all the corporations, institutions, and government...it is not brave or anything worth talking about.  If you have raised your kids to challenge injustice and not taught them how to fight...I wonder what sort of masturbatory exercise you are undertaking here.

A quite complicated one it seems.

I fucking hate the current UK government with quite a passion. They're a bunch of incompetent, privileged arseholes who are driving my country into the ground. How dare you accuse me of believing a word they say.

So now we've got that short wank out of the way. You're doing that awful binary thing again where it's all you're completes nuts conspiracy or we all bow to our overlords. There's a real world out there with real people who approach politics with a tiny bit of nuance. Not much for many of them but at least a bit.

  So by your own concerns and standards about standing up to injustice and getting out there and fighting you are a hypocrite coward?   Do you not see how retarded these things look together?  You berate a dude who has concerns he might be getting lied to (which honestly looks more like concern trolling/fed posting) for not getting out there and "fighting" while you sit around now tossing out nuance.  Come on...if you are going to be  a troll be a good one.

I'm having a bit of trouble trying to parse this whole thing. To be more proactive than Keiro when it comes to politics I literally only have to mention my opinions in real life. That's it, nothing else. Give me a lower bar to ask somebody to do when they fear that there's going to be an oppressive worldwide government. He's stated that he only talks about it here because he's scared of saying it to anybody IRL.

I don't get the trolling thing unless being challenging is trolling. I just asked what he was doing  to try to fix it. I know I don't do enough but I value my time when I have marched, my union work and challenging people in real life. I clearly don't agree with what I see as frankly insane ideas that you and Kiero hold but I'd thought there might be some real life engagement.

Your whole accusation is just weird.

[oggsmash]

I've been thinking about this and I couldn't live with myself if I hadn't brought my children up to challenge injustice they see. I don't see how giving an example of just keeping your head down is a good thing.

OTOH I try not to judge other peoples parental decisions, frankly managing to keep kids alive and emotionally safe is hard work.

IDK do you think that giving an example of bowing to an oppressive system is a good thing. I'm a bit leery but that guy who stood in front of the tank in Tianeman Square probably didn't have a good end. Mibbee it's better to show our bairns that they should do what they're telt.

  From what I have seen of your commentary you seem to just go along with whatever the government feeds you or stand strong against "injustice" in the form of whatever institutions have told you to stand strong against.   I hate to be the one to tell you this, but if you are standing with all the corporations, institutions, and government...it is not brave or anything worth talking about.  If you have raised your kids to challenge injustice and not taught them how to fight...I wonder what sort of masturbatory exercise you are undertaking here.

A quite complicated one it seems.

I fucking hate the current UK government with quite a passion. They're a bunch of incompetent, privileged arseholes who are driving my country into the ground. How dare you accuse me of believing a word they say.

So now we've got that short wank out of the way. You're doing that awful binary thing again where it's all you're completes nuts conspiracy or we all bow to our overlords. There's a real world out there with real people who approach politics with a tiny bit of nuance. Not much for many of them but at least a bit.

  So by your own concerns and standards about standing up to injustice and getting out there and fighting you are a hypocrite coward?   Do you not see how retarded these things look together?  You berate a dude who has concerns he might be getting lied to (which honestly looks more like concern trolling/fed posting) for not getting out there and "fighting" while you sit around now tossing out nuance.  Come on...if you are going to be  a troll be a good one.

I'm having a bit of trouble trying to parse this whole thing. To be more proactive than Keiro when it comes to politics I literally only have to mention my opinions in real life. That's it, nothing else. Give me a lower bar to ask somebody to do when they fear that there's going to be an oppressive worldwide government. He's stated that he only talks about it here because he's scared of saying it to anybody IRL.

I don't get the trolling thing unless being challenging is trolling. I just asked what he was doing  to try to fix it. I know I don't do enough but I value my time when I have marched, my union work and challenging people in real life. I clearly don't agree with what I see as frankly insane ideas that you and Kiero hold but I'd thought there might be some real life engagement.

Your whole accusation is just weird.

  Point out an insane idea I have put out here.... as for Kiero...You can get locked up in the UK for talking too much about, well anything the government decides can be "hateful" can you not?   It seems you do all the things that carry zero risk/are on the side with no risk.  So it seemed strange to me you criticize him for not getting out there and making his position known loud and clear on the streets when your protests probably carry government and corporate sponsorship.  I am in the USA... and have no problems with some real life engagement...but we still do not get locked up (just yet) for saying something someone characterized as "mean" on the internet.

[Garry G]

I've been thinking about this and I couldn't live with myself if I hadn't brought my children up to challenge injustice they see. I don't see how giving an example of just keeping your head down is a good thing.

OTOH I try not to judge other peoples parental decisions, frankly managing to keep kids alive and emotionally safe is hard work.

IDK do you think that giving an example of bowing to an oppressive system is a good thing. I'm a bit leery but that guy who stood in front of the tank in Tianeman Square probably didn't have a good end. Mibbee it's better to show our bairns that they should do what they're telt.

  From what I have seen of your commentary you seem to just go along with whatever the government feeds you or stand strong against "injustice" in the form of whatever institutions have told you to stand strong against.   I hate to be the one to tell you this, but if you are standing with all the corporations, institutions, and government...it is not brave or anything worth talking about.  If you have raised your kids to challenge injustice and not taught them how to fight...I wonder what sort of masturbatory exercise you are undertaking here.

A quite complicated one it seems.

I fucking hate the current UK government with quite a passion. They're a bunch of incompetent, privileged arseholes who are driving my country into the ground. How dare you accuse me of believing a word they say.

So now we've got that short wank out of the way. You're doing that awful binary thing again where it's all you're completes nuts conspiracy or we all bow to our overlords. There's a real world out there with real people who approach politics with a tiny bit of nuance. Not much for many of them but at least a bit.

  So by your own concerns and standards about standing up to injustice and getting out there and fighting you are a hypocrite coward?   Do you not see how retarded these things look together?  You berate a dude who has concerns he might be getting lied to (which honestly looks more like concern trolling/fed posting) for not getting out there and "fighting" while you sit around now tossing out nuance.  Come on...if you are going to be  a troll be a good one.

I'm having a bit of trouble trying to parse this whole thing. To be more proactive than Keiro when it comes to politics I literally only have to mention my opinions in real life. That's it, nothing else. Give me a lower bar to ask somebody to do when they fear that there's going to be an oppressive worldwide government. He's stated that he only talks about it here because he's scared of saying it to anybody IRL.

I don't get the trolling thing unless being challenging is trolling. I just asked what he was doing  to try to fix it. I know I don't do enough but I value my time when I have marched, my union work and challenging people in real life. I clearly don't agree with what I see as frankly insane ideas that you and Kiero hold but I'd thought there might be some real life engagement.

Your whole accusation is just weird.

  Point out an insane idea I have put out here.... as for Kiero...You can get locked up in the UK for talking too much about, well anything the government decides can be "hateful" can you not?   It seems you do all the things that carry zero risk/are on the side with no risk.  So it seemed strange to me you criticize him for not getting out there and making his position known loud and clear on the streets when your protests probably carry government and corporate sponsorship.  I am in the USA... and have no problems with some real life engagement...but we still do not get locked up (just yet) for saying something someone characterized as "mean" on the internet.

This post is full of insane ideas, thanks for not forcing me to look at anything else. I've really not been on a corporate sponsored protest in my life, I'm not even sure what that would entail. I did once try the Coca-Cola vs Pepsi taste test, would that count.

Kiero argues he can't even discuss his positions with people he knows because he'll have the same fate as Tianeman Square man. I'm sure you think he'd be taking an extreme risk by saying something over coffee but that's an insane idea.

As I said upthread we're not even getting to t'internet here.

[Kiero]

Gaz, my boy, you operate under the misapprehension that I could give a flying fuck what you or anyone else thinks about how my views come across. The fact that you use the bullshit phrase "alt-right" unironically tells me much.

Even moreso that you think the current government is any different from what we've had since 1997, because Continuity Blairism has been the only thing on offer for almost three decades now. If we take a step back still further, the only departure from the globalist hegemony we've had since paedo Wilson rigged the referendum to stay in the EC was Thatcher's government. And it's telling that she was defenestrated the moment she questioned the EEC as was.

If I shared some of the things I've said here on Twatter, I'd get banned. Possibly even have a visit from the police, if the right wokist arsehole reported it. Have you forgotten when Count Dankula (who lives in your country) got his collar felt for the "crime" of making fun of Grenfell residents? Crass and offensive, sure, but there used to be a time when hurting people's feelings wasn't against the law.

I'm looking forward to the reverse ferreting you're going to have to do over the jabs when they finally admit how much harm they've done to people (but don't worry, you can't sue anyone because the manufacturers are immune - the only people who are).